Educator Sir Ken Robinson’s TEDx Talk: Life is Your Talents Discovered at TEDxLiverpool – Transcript.
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Sir Ken Robinson – Educator
I’ve just had to mention this as the Beatles become a theme, that I interviewed Paul McCartney for the “Element.” That’s it. Anyway, Paul McCartney or Paul — I’m just saying — went to Liverpool Institute, which is now LIPA, that was where he went, I went to the Collegiate on the other end of Hope Street. I asked Paul McCartney — I helped a little bit with LIPA in the early days of Mark Featherstone which is the team we got back together. It’s a fantastic school by the way. Mark’s done a wonderful job.
I asked Paul McCartney if he had enjoyed music at school. And he said no, he hadn’t. I said: “Did your music teacher think you had any talent?” He said, “No.” He does, doesn’t he?
One of the other people in the same music program at school, a couple of years younger, was George Harrison. And I asked Paul if he thought that teacher thought George had any talent. He said, “No.”
So I said, “Well, look…” — because part of my argument is that talents are often buried, you have to go looking for it, and create the conditions for it. So I said: “Well, would this be a fair comment that there was just one music teacher in Liverpool, in the late 1950s, who had half the Beatles in his class — and he missed it?”
He said, “Yes, that’s right.”
Well, it’s a bit of an oversight, isn’t it? I’m just saying — Elvis Presley, that Elvis mentioned earlier — went to school in Tupelo, Mississippi, and he wasn’t allowed in the Glee Club at school. They said he would ruin their sound. Elvis. Well, we all know to what great heights the Glee Club went on to, once they managed to keep Elvis out of the picture. And that’s the point, isn’t it? Your life is, you create it according to the talents you discover or not. You mentioned the Dalai Lama, and a few years ago, I hosted a session at the Vancouver Peace Summit, and he was the guest of honor. We had about 2,000 people in the room. It was a session called “World Peace through Personal Peace.”
So we had about an hour to solve that up. We were just killing time for the final 20 minutes to be honest but I had to introduce the Dalai Lama. I mean Herb actually introduced me — Buddhists as you know, you mentioned the great work there, Buddhists believe in reincarnation, so he’s the 14th Dalai Lama. So it’s a lot to get in to an introduction, if you are going to be comprehensive about it.
Anyway, I then realized I didn’t have to introduce him, because I thought if your name starts with ‘the’, you can relax socially, can’t you, at this point? “Excuse me, which Dalai Lama are you?” “That would be “the…”
Anyway, he said a lot of really great things, and may I say, a lot of the great truths to be known since the beginning of time, and they are very simple. But he was asked a question at some point during the session, and we were all sit at 2,000 people waiting for the great man to speak. There were 10 of us on the panel facilitating it. But he was asked this question — you’ve got a picture, he’s sitting cross-legged on a throne — I did actually asked Herb for a throne today, but anyway, we did get a sofa with a teddy bear on it, so, he was sitting cross-legged on a kind of a big wooden chair and with a baseball cap on, and he was asked this question, and he took a deep breath, and pondered this for probably about a minute, it’s a long time. And we were all thinking this is going to be fantastic. This man has the definite article in his name so, he’s going to wait until he comes up with this.
And then he leant forward, he took a breath, so here he comes, and he said, “I don’t know.”
I thought: “What do you mean, you don’t know?” You are the Dalai Lama. You have the definite article right in your name.
He said: “I’ve never thought about that. What do you think? What do you think?”
You see, I love that. It’s been the theme of the afternoon, isn’t it? Knowledge is not about what you know, it’s about what you don’t, and being prepared to say, “I don’t know, I’m going to find out.” It ran through all presentations; what you said about the restaurant, “I don’t know, I’ll try it.” It’s not over as long as you are alive and breathing and maybe, not even then.
And the great teachers are the people who also learn with their students. It’s a big problem of education, we’re all supposed to know, and if you get it wrong, you failed. All the great questions are knowable even at the heart of science.
The other thing he said, by the way, and he said lots of things, he said: “To be born at all is a miracle. So, what are you going to do with your life?” And this really resonates to me, I am one of seven kids and my brother John, who’s sitting right there, there’s my brother John. I had an arm around him most of the afternoon, I just want to explain what is going on there. It’s so easily misinterpreted. I don’t mind if it is by the way, but, anyway, that’s John.