Arianna Huffington: Yes. And so we have now focused our coverage in three main areas. The first is obviously news and politics, where we take our own — I would consider our job to take stands. We don’t consider our jobs simply to blindly kind of just write what’s happening, because we feel you can get that anywhere now. Why come to the Huffington Post if you just want to know who won the Wisconsin race? First of all, you’d have gotten it from your Twitter feed. So for us, I mean, just one of the most controversial thing we did that everyday that passes, I consider one of our best decisions, was covering at the beginning Donald Trump in the entertainment section. And then on the day that he announced that his proposal to ban 1.6 billion Muslims from this country to start covering him under a clear and present danger who then editor’s note appended Underneath each story were his name appears that says, we would like to remind our readers that Donald Trump regularly advocates balance at his lies, and is a birth, which people forget. People forget that he still believes Obama was not born in this country, wants to ban at 1.6 billion Muslims, a serial liar, misogynist and xenophobe.
Interviewer: Quite subtle.
Arianna Huffington: It’s very subtle. So basically we have no opinion on Donald Trump.
Interviewer: Yeah, yeah.
Arianna Huffington: And really, I think the key here was that in a way, you think how can you cover both in entertainment, then under clear and present danger, think king Kim Jong Un, you know, somebody who is both a buffoon and a danger. The two things are not contradictory, and the two of them really exemplify that fact. So that’s one bucket.
The other bucket is solutions and we have a dedicated section called What’s Working, we brought in a great journalist from The Guardian Jo Confino to run it. And in every area whether it’s business, the environment, workplaces, we focus on what is working. What are the solutions that are working and this is the content that goes more viral than anything, it’s absolutely amazing.
And the third market is Wellness.
Interviewer: Just on that point again, a lot of the — even through your Facebook feed and so forth, comes again from your preconceived tendencies. So when certain articles pop up, for example, someone searches on the immigration crisis, would it not be a case of having a one sided story, but then on the other, something like and by the way, here are the great immigrants that built America like Steve Jobs was Syrian? and so forth and having them side by side such that it’s almost put in front of every reader, regardless of what they search for.
Arianna Huffington: Well, absolutely we would be covering the basics of the story. This is not kind of an alternative to that. But so often media cover the crisis, the problem, without also covering the fact that there are solutions to most problems that are actually happening somewhere. But they are just not scaled enough. So, I know you do a lot of work here. But how do you scale something good? So we feel that by putting the spotlight on why this is working, we can help them scale. We talk about copycat crimes, how about copycat solutions?
So I think that for us, the larger point here is reimagining journalism. So that in journalism schools, right now you are taught that if it bleeds, it leads. And of course if anybody is unfortunate enough to watch local news, you would’ve thought that the only things going on the communities are burglaries, rapes, murders. And this is just the choice of the outlet. They think that’s the way to drive people to their broadcast. But I think the fact that now most people receive their news through social is changing the dynamic.
Interviewer: So, on the topic of solutions, a lot of your current book is around kind of helping us as individuals become better at what we do. Now what many may not know given your long string of successes is the continuous stream of personal hurdles that went on in the background, right? You very unfortunately had complications with your first pregnancy, you had a breast cancer scare, I believe. You had a public divorce, within the family, certain issues around substance abuse and so forth. And yet you continue to go on and be successful. To what extent was work a distraction to help get through these moments? And why was it that it took a literal bump to your head to get you to kind of wake up and reevaluate, and now help us to avoid that situation in the future? Sorry for the question.
Arianna Huffington: No, that’s great. I think that work was never a distraction because I always kind of loved my work. I think what led to my collapse in 2007 and my breaking my cheekbone on the way down, was that I had completely bought into the collective delusion that burnout was the way to achieve things. That yes, I know I’m exhausted and I know I’m kind of sleep walking through my life but hey, I’m building the Huffington Post. And I had the delusion that so many entrepreneurs have, that nothing could be done except by me. And therefore, I had to be up all the time and driving this third baby that I considered the Huffington Post while my first baby, Christina, was on college tour with me. And she had asked rightly that I should not be on my Blackberry while we were together. Remember, that’s 2007, so it was still Blackberry time.
And when she would go to sleep, I would start working and to cut a long story short, I ended up back at home collapsing. But in a way I feel very, very grateful. Speaking going back to Rumi and living life as if everything is rigged in your favor. I honestly believed I would either be dead or have had a heart attack if I had continued that way. Because these things become cumulative, so the price you pay, it’s not obvious right away. Like things seem to be working until they stop working. And the great thing about last year was that it was the year when executive after executive collapsed, and either died or ended up with a heart attack. Most recently the CEO of United Airlines. And if you read his schedule before his collapse, you can see why. He is back at work now but he ended up with a major heart attack.