Right now there’s a glass of water here, is that you? No. If you drink it, does it become you? What is it that you did? All you did was you included this into the boundaries of your sensation. Isn’t that the way you have grown? Hello?
SADHGURU: Isn’t that the way you have grown? What was not you yesterday, has it become you today? So, anything that is within the boundaries of your sensation is experienced as myself.
What yoga means is, you stretch the boundaries of your sensations. As there is a physical body, there is a sensory body. If your sensory body expands, let us say your sensory body became as large as this hall, then you will experience all these people as a part of yourself. As you experience the five fingers as yourself, you will experience all these people as yourself.
Even for a moment if you experience all these people as a part of yourself, after that do I have to teach you morals, ethics, be good to this person, don’t kill this person, don’t harm this person – would you need teachings, I’m asking you?
SADHGURU: This is what yoga means – it is not a teaching, it is not a philosophy, it is not an ideology – it is a technology of obliterating the boundaries of your individuality. Because your individual nature is your psychological pattern that you have created. Nothing else says you are individual.
If you don’t understand what I’m saying, keep your mouth closed, hold your nose for two minutes, you will know you’re not an individual.
SOUMYA SWAMINATHAN: I think what you say makes a lot of sense and yet – you know, it’s very intuitive the way you explain it – but it’s not part of our educational system, it’s not part of a thought process. More and more people are growing up in urban environments far away from nature, far away from the experiences – you need to feel one with the environment.
And so we have to, I think, consciously promote this… this thought and particularly I think, for decision-makers and policymakers, it’s really important to have this… this philosophy when they think about making a policy, what impact is it going to have, not just on yourself or your neighbors, but on the wider community, on the water, on the land, on the forest, on the air.
Unless we start thinking about each and every policy like that, I don’t think, you know, we can appreciate really this oneness of being that you described.
SADHGURU: See, if you… if you take something as a value, or a philosophy or an ideology, this will work when you and me sit on separate chairs like this. Suppose there is little space, five of us have to sit on the same chair, that’s when the trouble begins. Okay?
You got your big chair, I got my big chair – no problem. But if three, four of us have to sit on that chair – now trouble begins. Well, you can have philosophies, “love everybody”. Can you, I’m asking you genuinely? Please tell me. You’ll love selectively, isn’t it?
“Love thy neighbor” – can you love your nasty neighbor? You would not, okay? It is nice to say these things because it helps to cool you a little bit. But when life puts you to test, it won’t last. You’ve seen it again and again. You said it is not the nature of our education – one hundred percent that’s where the problem is.
The real problem is in the way we are educating our generations of people. The question is not about what, it is the way we’re doing it. Right now our education system is 100% dependent upon human intellect. We are treating intellect as the only dimension of intelligence existing in this human being.
If I ask you a simple question – you must answer this question because I’m going to bless you – do you want your intellect sharp or blunt?
SADHGURU: Okay. Those of you who didn’t say anything – blessed. So I’ll give you one more chance – sharp or blunt?
SADHGURU: Sharp for sure. Intellect should be sharp. Why? Because it’s a cutting instrument. It’s like a knife, it’s like a scalpel. The sharper it is, the better it is. A knife is a good cutting instrument. If you want to dissect something, you need a razor-sharp knife. It’s good to have it.
But now you want to sew your clothes, but you do it with your knife – you will be in tatters. That’s all that’s happening to the world. Tell me who is messing up the world – educated people or uneducated people? Hello?
SADHGURU: Educated people. Because this is the nature of their education. They think they can fix everything with their intellect. They are not even acknowledging other dimensions of intelligence which exist in your system. When I say other dimensions of intelligence, there are…in yoga, we look at human mind as 16 dimensions. Let’s not go there, it will… it’s a long thing.
Simply…to come very simply to this, if you eat a tch – it’s mango season, though I am in Geneva I can talk mangoes, right, okay – suppose you eat a mango, whether you’re a man, woman or a cow or a goat, it goes into you and becomes who you are, isn’t it? Hello?
SADHGURU: Mango doesn’t look like you, taste like you, feel like you but it goes into you and becomes like you in you. If you are a woman, it becomes a woman; if you are a man, it becomes a man; if you’re a cow, it becomes a cow; if you’re a goat, it becomes a goat. Very smart mango you think? Hello?