# There is Certainty in Uncertainty: Brian Schmidt at TEDxCanberra (Full Transcript)

Brian Schmidt – TRANSCRIPT:

Last December, me and my fellow Nobel Laureates were asked by a journalist if there was one thing that we could teach the world, what would it be? And to my surprise, two economists, two biologists, a chemist, and three physicists gave the same answer. And that answer was about uncertainty. So I’m going to talk to you today about uncertainty.

To understand anything, you must understand its uncertainty. Uncertainty is at the heart of the fabric of the Universe. I’m going to illustrate this with a laser. A laser puts out a small, but not infinitesimally small point of light. You might think that if I go through and I try to make that point of light smaller by, for example, bringing two jars of a slit together, that I could make that point as small as I want. I just want to make those slits closer and closer.

So let’s see what happens when I do this for real. My friends at Mount Stromlo gave a call and made up a nice little invent, a little here. By essentially adjusting the laser, the slit – we’re going to go through and we are going to see what happens when I close the jaws of the slit. The more I close it, instead of getting smaller, the laser gets spread out. So it works exactly the opposite of what I was expecting. And that’s due to something known as Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle.

Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle states that you can’t know exactly where something is and know its momentum at the same time. Light’s momentum is really its direction. So, as I bring those slits closer and closer together, I actually constrain where the light is. But the quantum world says you can’t do that. The light then has an uncertain direction.

So instead of being a smaller point, the light has a randomness put out to it, which is that pattern that we saw. Many things in life you can think of as a series of little decisions. For example, if I start at a point, and I can go left or right, well, I do it, let’s say, 50% of the time I can go left or right.

Let’s say I have another decision tree down below that. I can go left, I can go right, or I can go to the middle. Because I’ve had two chances to go to the middle from above, I would do that 50% of the time. I only go one quarter to the left and one quarter all the way to the right. And you can build up such a decision tree, and Pascal did this. It’s called Pascal’s triangle. You get a probability of where you are going to end up. I brought something like this with me today. It’s this machine right here. This is a machine you can put balls into and you can randomly see what happens.

So, for example, if I put a ball in here, it’ll bounce down and it’ll end up somewhere. It’s essentially an enactment of Pascal’s triangle. I need two people from the audience to help me, and I think I am going to have Sly and Jon right there come up and help me if that’s okay. You know who you are. What they are going to do is they are going to, as fast as they can – faster than they are going right now, because I only have 18 minutes – put balls through this machine, and we’re going to see what happens. This machine counts things where they end. So you guys have to go through as fast as you can. Work together, and during the rest of my talk, you are going to build up this. And the more you do, the better it is, okay? So go for it, and I’ll keep on going.

All right. It turns out that if you have a series of random events in life, you end up with something called a Bell Shaped Curve, which we also call a Normal Distribution or Gaussian Distribution. So, for example, if you have just a few random events, you don’t get something that really looks like that. But if you do more and more, they add up to give you this very characteristic pattern which Gauss famously wrote down mathematically. It turns out that in most cases a series of random events gives you this bell-shaped curve. It doesn’t really matter what it is. For example, if I were going to go out and have a million scales across Australia measure my weight.

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Well, there’s some randomness to that, and you’ll get a bell-shaped curve of what my weight actually is. If I were instead to go through and ask a million Australian males what their weight is, and actually measure it, I would also get a bell-shaped curve, because that is also made up of a series of random events which determine people’s weight. So the way a bell-shaped curve is characterized is by its mean – that’s the most likely value – and its width, which we call a standard deviation. This is a very important concept because the width and how close you are to the mean you can characterize, so the likelihood of things is occurring.

So it turns out if you are within one standard deviation, that happens 68.3% of the time. I’m going to illustrate how this works for work example in just a second. If you have two standard deviations, that happens 95.4% of the time; you’re within two. 99.73% within three standard deviations. This is a very powerful way for us to describe things in the world. So, it turns out this means that I can go out and make a measurement of, for example, how much I weigh, and if I use more and more scales in Australia, I will get a better and better answer, provided they are good scales.

It turns out the more trials I do, or the more measurements I make, the better I will make that measurement. And the accuracy increases as the square root of the number of times I make the measurement. That’s why I am having these guys do what they are doing as fast as they can. So let’s apply this to a real world problem we all see: the approval rating of the Prime Minister of Australia.

Over the past 15 months, every couple of weeks, we hear news poll go out and ask the people of Australia: “Do you approve of the Prime Minister?” Over the last 15 months, they have done this 28 times, and they asked 1100 people. They don’t ask about 22 million Australians because it’s too expensive to do that, so they ask 1100 people. The square root of 1100 is 33, and so it turns out their answers are uncertain by plus or minus 33 people when they asked these 1100 people. That’s a 3% error. That’s 33 divided by 1100.

So let’s see what they get. Here is last fifteen months. You can see it seems that some time in the middle of the last year the Prime Minister had a very bad week, followed a few weeks later by what appears to be a very good week. Of course, you could look at it in another way. You could say, “What would happen if the Prime Minister’s popularity hasn’t changed at all in the last fifteen months?” Well, then there’s an average, and that mean turns out to be 29.6% for this set of polls. So she hasn’t been very popular over the last 15 months. And we know that, if a basis bell curve, that’s 68.3% of the time, it should lie within plus or minus 3%, because of the number of people we’re asking.

So that means we expect it turns out between 15 and 23 of the time. So it should lie within plus or minus 3%. And the actual number of times is 24. What about those really extreme cases when she seems to have a really bad or really good week? Well, you actually expect zero to two times, so 5% of the time, to be more than 6% discrepant from the mean. And what do we see? Two.

In other words, over the last 15 months the polls are completely consistent with the Prime Minister’s popularity not changing a bit. All right. And let’s see what the news is. For example, just last week. Well, approval rating, big headline in the Australians, dropped from 29 to 27%, even though the error on that is at least 3% even for that single poll. It’s not just Australia that does this; it’s all the news agencies.

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Now, the other thing is that news polls are not the only people who do this. For example, Nielsen does this for Fairfax, and here are their polls. Same question, and you’ll see that it seems that they are also consistent with the Prime Minister’s popularity not changing over time. But they seem to get a different answer. They get 36.5% approval over that period. We are not talking about 1,000 people here when we compare these two things. We’re talking about 30,000, because we get to add up all those people.

So, the uncertainty in these measurement is well less than 1%, and yet they disagree by 6%. That’s because not all uncertainty is random. It can be done to just make mistakes or errors. It turns out it really hard to ask 1,100 people across Australia who are representative of the average Australian. So, there is an additional uncertainty caused by just error that is making a scientific or a polling error which we see here. You might ask yourself, “Why don’t they just ask more people, like 10,000 people, less frequently, once a month?” And a cynic might say because there’s no news in telling people that the popularity is the same month after month after month.

All right. Not all things, though, become more accurate the more you measure them, and such systems we call as exhibiting chaotic behavior. I happen to have something that exhibits chaotic behavior here, which is a double pendulum. A double pendulum – this was made up for the people by me at Questacon, and I thank them for that. A double pendulum is just two pendulums connected to each other. And the beautiful thing is this doesn’t always exhibit chaos.

Let me show you what happens here. If I just start this thing, these things swing back and forth in unison because there is no chaos here. If I make measurements, better and better measurements, I can predict exactly what is going on here. The better I do, the better I will know what pendulum is going to be in the future. But if I take a double pendulum and I swing it a lot, then something else happens. They don’t do the same thing, and there is nothing I can do, no matter how many measurements I make, that I can predict what is going to happen with these pendulums, because infinite testable differences lead to different outcomes. Not is all lost here.

It turns out there are things we can learn. For example, I can know through my measurements, what the likelihood of the things swinging all the way around is, how often that’s going to happen. So, you can know things about chaotic systems, but you cannot predict exactly what they’re going to do. All right, so what is a chaotic system that we are used to? Well, it turns out the Earth’s climate is a good example of a chaotic system. I show you here the temperature record from Antarctic ice cores over the last 650,000 years. You can see in grey regions times when the Earth is quite warm, and then it seemingly cools down. And why does it do that? It’s a chaotic process that is related to how the Earth goes around the Sun in a quite complex way. So it’s very difficult to predict exactly what the Earth is going to do at any given time.

Also, it’s just hard to measure what’s going on with the Earth. For the last thousand years, here are temperature reconstructions from different groups. You can see over the last thousand years, we get quite different answers back in time. We more or less agree where we have better information, which is in the last hundred years or so, that the Earth is warmed up about 8/10 of a degree. So, modeling and measuring the climate is hard. The consensus view of just using the data is that we are 90% sure that the warming trend is not an accident, that it is actually caused by anthropogenic or man-made carbon dioxide.

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As a scientist trying to make an experiment, 90% isn’t a very good result. You’re not very sure about it. However, if someone’s trying to figure out my future of my life, 90% is a pretty big risk factor. So, that’s a very different thing between those two things. But from my point as a scientist, I am 99.99999% sure that physics tells us that adding CO2 to the atmosphere causes sunlight to be more effectively trapped in our atmosphere, raising the temperature a bit. The hard part is – and what we are much less sure of – is how many clouds there are going to be, how much water vapor will be released, which warms the Earth up even more, how many methane releases will follow, and precisely how the oceans will interact with all this to trap the CO2 and hold the warmth. Of course, we have no idea really how much CO2 we will emit into the future.

So here is our best estimate. The red curve shows what we think will happen if we don’t do anything about our CO2 emission into the future. We’re going to burn more and more as we become more and more developed as a world. The blue line shows a very aggressive carbon reduction strategy proposed by the IPCC. And then we can estimate using our best physics of what we think is going to happen. Here is the outcome of the two ideas. The blue curve shows what happens if we do that very aggressive drop. It keeps the rise of temperature over the next century to less than 2 degrees C with about 90% confidence.

On the other hand, if we let things keep going, the best prediction is, of course, that it’s going to get warmer and warmer, with a great deal of uncertainty of about exactly how warm we’ll go. According to the Australian Academy of Science they say, “Expect climate surprises,” and we should, because the Earth’s climate is a chaotic system. We don’t exactly know what it’s going to do, and that is what scares the hell out of me. So, life is not black and white. Life is really shades of grey. But it’s not all bad. You guys have done an excellent job, so what I want you to do now is to stop, and we are going to read out your numbers here, and we’re going to compare them to what I thought which we were going to predict, okay?

So I have here hopefully a functioning computer. So what I need you to do is to just go through from the left and read out the numbers that you have achieved.

Assistant: 5.

Brian Schmidt: 5.

A: 10. BS: 10. A: 21. BS:21. A: 21. BS:21 again? A: That’s right. 24. BS: 24? A: Yes. Then 30. BS: 30. A: 37. BS: 37. A: 47. BS: 47. A: 41. BS: 41. A: 43. BS: 43. A: 29. BS: 29. A: 21. BS: 21. A: 8. BS: 8. A:10. BS: 10. A: 3. BS: 3.

Well, I am proud to say you guys were completely random. It was perfect. I show here the prediction of what should happen and what happened. Bang on. There is certainty in uncertainty, and that is the beauty of it. But to make policy decisions based on what we know about science, about what we know about economics, requires our politicians, our policy makers, and our citizens to understand uncertainty.

I’m going to finish with the words of Richard Feynman, with words that really could be my own, which is, “I can live with doubt and uncertainty. I think it’s much more interesting to live not knowing than to have answers which might be wrong.” Thank you very much. Thank you. Excellent.

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