Transcript: Dr. Gerald Pollack on The Fourth Phase of Water at TEDxGuelphU

When you have positive in between two negatives what happens is that you get an attractive force. And so you expect these two spheres to actually come together despite the fact that they have the same charge, and that’s exactly what happens. It’s been known for many years. They come together, and if you have many of them, instead of just two of them, you’ll get something that looks like this. They’ll come together and this is called a colloid crystal. It’s a stable structure. In fact, the yogurt that you might have had this morning probably consists of what you see right here. So, they come together because of the opposite charge.

The same thing is true if you have droplets. They come together because of the opposing charges. So, when you think of droplets, and aerosol droplets in the air, and think about the cloud, it’s actually the reason that these aerosol droplets come together is because of this opposite charge. So, the droplets from the air, similarly charged, come together coalesce, giving you that cloud in the sky.

So the fourth phase, or EZ phase, actually explains quite a lot. It explains, for example, the cloud. It’s the positive charge that draws these negatively charged EZ shells together to give you a condensed cloud that you see up in the sky. In terms of the water droplets, the reason that these are sustained on the surface for actually sometimes as long as tens of seconds — and you can see it if you’re in a boat and it’s raining, you can sometimes see this on the surface of the lake, these droplets are sustained for some time — and the reason they’re sustained is that each droplet contains this shell, this EZ shell, and the shell has to be breached in order for the water to coalesce with the water beneath.

Now, in terms of the Jesus Christ lizard, the reason the lizard can walk, it’s not because of one single molecular layer, but there are many EZ layers lining the surface, and these are gel-like, they’re stiffer than ordinary surfaces so, therefore, you can float a coin on the surface of the water, you can float a paperclip, although if you put it beneath the surface it sinks right down to the bottom, it’s because of that.

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And in terms of the water bridge, if you think of it as plain old, liquid, bulk water — hard to understand. But if you think of it as EZ water and a gel-like character, then you can understand how it could be sustained with almost no droop, a very stiff structure.

Okay, so, all well and good, but why is this useful for us? What can we do with it? Well, we can get energy from water. In fact, the energy that we can get from water is free energy. It’s literally free. We can take it from the environment. Let me explain.

So, you have a situation in the diagram with negative charge and positive charge, and when you have two opposing charges next to each other it’s like a battery. So, really we have essentially a battery made of water. And of course you can extract charge from it, so that is right now.

Batteries run down, like your cell phone needs to be plugged in every day or two, and so the question is: Well, what charges this water battery? It took us a while to figure that out, what recharges the battery. And one day, we’re doing an experiment, and a student in the lab walks by and he has this lamp. And he takes the lamp and he shines it on the specimen, and where the light was shining we found that the exclusion zone grew, grew by leaps and bounds. So, we thought, aha, it looks like light, and we’ve many experiments to show, that the energy for building this comes from light. It comes not only from the direct light, but also indirect light.

What do I mean by indirect light? Well, what I mean is that the indirect light is, for example, infrared light that exists all over this auditorium. If we were to turn out all the lights, including the floodlights, and I pulled out my infrared camera and looked at the audience, you’d see a very clear, bright image. And if I looked at the walls you’d see a very clear image. And the reason for that is that everything is giving off infrared energy. You’re giving off infrared energy. That’s the energy that’s most effective in building this charge separation and this fourth phase.

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So, in other words you have the material, you have the EZ water, and you collect energy from outside, and as you collect the energy from outside, the exclusion zone builds. And if you a take away that extra energy, it will go back to its normal size. So, this battery is basically charged by light, by the sun. It’s a gift from the sun.

If you think about it, what’s going on, if you think about the plant that you have sitting in your kitchen, you’re getting light, you know where the energy comes from, the energy comes from the light. It’s the photons that hit the plant, that supply all the energy, right? And the plant converts it to chemical energy, the light energy to chemical energy, and the chemical energy is then used to do growth and metabolism and bending and what-have-you. That we all know, it’s very common.

What I’m suggesting to you from our results is that the same thing happens in water. No surprise, because the plant is mostly water, suggesting to you that energy is coming in from outside, light energy, infrared energy, radiant energy basically, and the water is absorbing the energy and converting that energy into some sort of useful work. And so we come to the equation E = H₂O. A bit different from the equation that you’re familiar with. But I think it really is true that you can’t separate energy from water; water is a repository of energy coming free from the environment.

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