Transcript: Dr. Gerald Pollack on The Fourth Phase of Water at TEDxGuelphU

Now can we harvest some of this energy, or is it just totally useless? Well, we can do that because you have a negative zone and a positive zone. And if you put two electrodes in, you can get energy, right? Just like a battery. And we’ve done that and we were able to, for example, have a every simple optical display. It can be run from the energy that you can get from here. And obviously we need to build it up into something bigger and more major in order to get the energy. This is free energy and it comes from water.

Another opportunity we’ve been developing is getting drinking — clear, free, drinking water. If you have a hydrophilic material, and you put contaminated water next to it with junk that you want to get rid of — so, what happens is, I’ve shown you, is that this stuff gets excluded from beyond the exclusion zone, and the remaining EZ doesn’t have any contaminants. So, you can put bacteria there, and the bacteria would go out. And because the exclusion zone is big, it’s easy to extract the water and harvest it. And we’ve done that. And we’re working on trying to make it practical.

Well, one of the things we noticed is that it looks as though salt is also excluded. So, we’re now thinking about extending this, putting in ocean water. And you put the ocean water in, and if the salt is excluded, then you simply take the EZ water which should be free of salt, and you can get drinking water then out of this.

So, getting biological energy. The cells are full of macromolecules, proteins, nucleic acids, and each one of these is a nucleating site to build EZ waters. So, around each one of these is EZ water. Now, the EZ water is negatively charged, and the region beyond is positively charged, so you have charge separation. And these separated charges are free, available, to drive reactions inside your cells.

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So, what it means really is, it’s a kind of photosynthesis that your cells are doing. The light is being absorbed, converted into charge separation, just the same that happens in photosynthesis, and these charges are used by you. One example of this, obtaining energy on a larger scale, I mean the energy is coming in all the time from all over and it’s absorbed by you, actually quite deeply: If you take a flashlight and you shine it through the palm, you can actually see it through here, so it penetrates quite deeply, and you have many blood vessels all around you, especially capillaries near the periphery, and it’s possible that some of this energy that’s coming in is used to help drive the blood flow.

Let me explain that in a moment. What you see here is the microcirculation, it’s a piece of muscle, and you can see a few capillaries winding their way through. And in these capillaries are the red blood cells that you can see. A typical red blood cell looks like on the upper right. It’s big, but when they actually flow, they bend. The reason they bend is that the vessel is too small. So, the vessel is sometimes even half the size of the red blood cells. They’re going to squinch and go through.

Now it requires quite a bit of energy to do that, and the question is: Does your heart really supply all the energy that’s necessary for driving this event? And what we found is a surprise. We found that if we take a hollow tube made of hydrophilic material, just like a straw, and we put the straw in the water, we found constant unending flow that goes through.

So, here’s the experiment, here’s the tube, and you can see that the tube is put in the water. We fill out the inside just to make sure it’s completely filled inside, put it into the water and the water contains some spheres, some particles, so we can detect any movements that occur. And you look in the microscope and what you find looks like this: unending flow through the tube. It can go on for a full day as long as we’ve looked at it. So, it’s free; light is driving this flow, in a tube, no extra sources of energy other than light. So, if you think about the human, and think about the energy that’s being absorbed in your water, and in your cells, it’s possible that we may use some of this energy to drive biological processes in a way that you had not envisioned before.

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So, what I presented to you has many implications for science and technology that we’ve just begun thinking about. And the most important is that the radiant energy is absorbed by the water, and giving energy to the water in terms of chemical potential. And this may be used in biological contexts, for example, as in blood flow, but in many other contexts as well. And when you think of chemical reactions that involve water, you just think of a molecule sitting in the water. But what I’ve shown you is not just that, you have the particle, EZ, positive charge, the effect of light, all of those need to be taken into account. So, it may be necessary to reconsider many of the kinds of reactions, for understanding these reactions that we’ve learned about in our chemistry class.

Weather. So, I’ve shown you about clouds. The critical factor is charge. If you take a course in weather and such, you hear that the most critical factors are temperature and pressure. Charge is almost not mentioned, despite the fact that you can see lightning and thunder all the time. But charges may be much more important than pressure and temperature in giving us the kind of weather that we see.

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