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Alex Christoforou: Zelensky–Trump Conflict Transforms the War (Transcript)

In this interview, Glenn Diesen and Alex Christoforou, host of The Duran, break down the growing Zelensky–Trump conflict sparked by the US-Russia diesel deal, the Starlink and intelligence cutoff controversies, and the ceasefire plan reported by David Ignatius of the Washington Post. They also examine Europe’s hybrid war narrative, NATO’s shifting messaging on the Russian threat, and Russia’s advances on the battlefield in Ukraine. This interview was premiered on October 15, 2026. Read the full transcript of this interview below:


The US-Russia Diesel Deal and the Trump–Zelensky Spat

GLENN DIESEN (00:00:00 – 00:00:53): Welcome back, everyone. Today is October 15th, 2026, and we have the pleasure of being joined by Alex Christoforou, a political analyst and a very popular host of The Duran podcast, as well as hosting his own podcast. And I will leave a link in the description to both of them. So thank you for coming back on the program.

ALEX CHRISTOFOROU: Thank you. Thank you for having me.

GLENN DIESEN: My first question was about this whole, I guess, the big elephant in the room, this whole new spat now between Trump and Zelensky. Again, it began with this diesel deal between the US and Russia, but it doesn’t appear to be that big of an agreement, that much diesel, I mean, but the consequences are kind of huge by breaking with the sanctions regime, but also sparking this conflict between Kyiv and Washington. How do you interpret this?

ALEX CHRISTOFOROU (00:00:56 – 00:03:29): I think the diesel deal was more, at least from Trump’s side of things, was more for the midterm elections. I think he was looking at some sort of a narrative or a talking point where he can go out on the campaign trail and show that he’s doing something. And so I think this was kind of low-hanging fruit, I guess. He has a phone call with Putin, Russia agrees to send a certain amount of diesel to the United States, and then Trump can show that he’s trying to get the price of diesel down.

And it also serves another purpose for Trump in that it further moves the increase in the price of fuel away from Iran and confirms his narrative that this is about Ukraine and Russia, which is something that’s very important to Trump. He does not want the war in Iran to be blamed for the increase in prices, because what’s his talking point? His talking point is this is all about Ukraine and Russia. That’s why the price of diesel is going up. It has nothing to do with Iran. So that’s what he’s been saying.

And so this diesel deal helps him out. Putin kind of helps him out. He can go out on the campaign trail and say, “You see, the price of diesel is all about Ukraine and Russia, has nothing to do with Iran.” He does not want the American people, the voters, to blame the increase in prices on the war with Iran because that’s his war. That’s the war that he started. So he wants to put some distance there. So for him, I think this was a political move and there’s political benefits for the Republicans.

But yeah, apparently it’s causing a lot of trouble between Trump and the Europeans, between Trump and Zelensky. We’ll see exactly how all of this unfolds. You now have the whole Starlink issue, which has kind of come up. You have the cutting off of Intel as well now. Allegedly, there’s some sort of Intel cutoff. I don’t quite believe that either, but we’ll see where this all goes. I think a lot of this is just theater. And actually, Glenn, I think a lot of this is to cover up for Russia’s advances.

GLENN DIESEN (00:03:31 – 00:03:51): Well, that’s a great point though. I mean, yes, there’s a lot of focus now, a lot of complaints from the Europeans, Zelensky, so forth. But the more noise this creates, I guess the more headlines it takes, the more it distracts from Iran. Now, if we want to talk about fuel problems, what we’re talking about is Zelensky, not Iran. I guess that in itself is a victory.

ALEX CHRISTOFOROU (00:03:52 – 00:03:55): For Trump, definitely. Yeah, for Trump it’s a victory.

Why Zelensky and the Europeans No Longer Fear Trump

GLENN DIESEN (00:03:55 – 00:05:00): Yeah. But for Zelensky though, I’m a bit perplexed by some of his reactions. When first the diesel deal was announced, he went out, very heavily criticized Trump, which is kind of a strange thing to do given that Trump’s entire presidency’s revolved around making America great through strength. You can’t allow your own proxy to lecture you like this. So it seemed that it was a bit reckless, but he has only taken it further now.

I mean, he’s touring Europe, he’s going all out against Trump. It seems like a gamble to me. That is, he’s trying to mobilize American opposition, the Europeans against Trump. But Trump, if this fails and Trump doesn’t give in, he’s going to take this personal. He’s going to see Zelensky as essentially a key adversary.

I’m not sure if maybe I’m reading too much into this, but how do you understand Zelensky’s calculations here? Because if I was advising Zelensky, I would probably have told him to go a bit cautious here.

ALEX CHRISTOFOROU (00:05:01 – 00:07:20): Yeah, I would agree with you. I think maybe 9 months ago or a year ago, I think Zelensky and the Europeans would’ve been more cautious. I think now there’s an understanding between the Europeans, Zelensky, Ratcliffe, the CIA, the neocons, that come November, Trump is going to be weakened and he’s not going to be that much more of an issue.

He’ll probably be occupied with, who knows what’s going to happen with the Democrats if they take over. He’ll be occupied with all kinds of maybe impeachment stuff going on and all kinds of things that are just going to take up his time.