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The Truth About Human Population Decline: Jennifer D. Sciubba (Transcript)

Here is the full text and summary of demographer Jennifer D. Sciubba’s talk titled “The Truth About Human Population Decline”. In this TED Talk, Jennifer D. Sciubba discusses the declining human population in many parts of the world, highlighting the shift towards low fertility rates, population aging, and eventual depopulation.

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TRANSCRIPT:

Astronomers tell us that when we look to the night sky, we’re actually looking back in time. Light from those faraway stars takes so long to reach our eyes here on Earth, that by the time we wish upon a particular star, it may no longer even exist.

I’m here to tell you the population of Earth is a lot like those stars. In parts of the globe, the human population is already, or will soon be, shrinking. I know what you’re thinking. And yes, total population is still growing from 8 billion today to a peak of probably nine or 10 billion.

But when we track total increase, we’re looking at the star that seems to be shining brightly, but in actuality has already imploded. And that’s because there’s a difference between what’s happening on the surface — which is obvious total growth — and the tectonic forces beneath.

Since the 1960s, world population has more than doubled, but the growth rate has been falling the entire time. We’re witnessing the most fundamental shift to take place in modern human history. The shift towards pervasive and permanent low fertility, population aging and eventual depopulation.

Fertility is down everywhere, just at different rates in different places. If fertility stays the same as it is today, just hold still, by the end of this century, China’s population will be less than half of its current size. It’s a loss of 800 million people. South Korea’s will be down by 63 percent, Poland’s and Japan’s by half, Italy’s and Thailand’s by 44 percent, Eastern Europe by 40 percent.

Even greater number of countries are already aging. Again, just 20 years ago, if we’d lined up everyone in Japan or Italy or Germany from the youngest person to the oldest and we ask that person in the middle their age, they would have been 40 years old.

Today, the populations of Thailand, Kuwait and Cuba are just as old, with Chile, Iran and Vietnam close behind. And even India, as it seems to be this bright star, assuming the throne as world’s most populous country, has below-replacement fertility. The number of young people entering into India’s workforce has already peaked.

People are the foundation of everything in a society. We’re the workers and the voters and the soldiers and the caregivers. So how many of us there are and who we are, that matters. We’re on track for there to be more people over age 60 than under the age of 14 by the middle of this century.

That radical shift in modern human society presents us with a world of possibilities. Our demography is our destiny, yes, but how we react to that demography is not preordained. What possible worlds might we create if we thoughtfully plan for an older, smaller population?

In one possible world, we put our heads in the sand and keep going about our business as usual. We have seen most societies react like they’re living in this world and throw money at people to have more babies. But it doesn’t work. South Korea has spent 210 billion dollars over the last 16 years trying to raise fertility and they keep hitting record lows, under one child per woman on average.

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In this status quo world, we keep the same economic models that assume infinite population growth and amass more debt to pay for our public spending. Our social safety nets stay the same, which, those rely on more inputs from workers than withdrawals from retirees. That’s what we call a pay-as-you-go system.

Western Europe is already struggling to keep these systems afloat because in many of those countries there are only two workers for every retiree. You can see how top heavy the population’s age structure is here and how in the next few years it will grow even more so that way.

In a status quo world, the world’s most powerful countries continue to increase military spending and try to project power beyond their borders, even as their national budgets strain and the recruiting pool for soldiers shrinks. Hello, Russia, China, and maybe even the United States.

So what results from failing to adapt and clinging to the status quo? Systems overload and break. We have higher labor costs which lead to inflation and that just makes it even more expensive to have children. Social security systems go bankrupt and we lose the gains we’ve made in reducing old-age poverty.

But a head in the sand world isn’t as bad as a fearful one. In a fearful world, the ability to choose how many children to have and when to have them gets taken away. Something that’s easier in less democratic settings. And not good news here either. Twenty years ago, almost all of our aging countries were democracies. Now, a quarter of them, those with median ages of 35 or higher, aren’t free.

And I know we see this idea of coercion in science fiction, but it’s not just science fiction. In 1965, when Nicolae Ceaușescu took the helm in Romania and he wanted more Romanian babies, he forced it to happen through invasive measures. Fertility temporarily spiked, but not without dire consequences for women and for those children, many of whom were abandoned to orphanages.

In a fearful world, immigration becomes more restricted. There’s more hatred and division as majority groups fear being replaced by people who don’t look like them. There’s less global cooperation as aging, shrinking countries, they lose the willingness and ability to think about causes outside their borders and fund those. We can’t come together on pandemics or climate change or other transboundary issues.

Does any of this sound familiar? I actually don’t think we’re fully in this world yet, even if way too much of this hits close to home.