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How To Live With Fire: Oral McGuire (Transcript) 

Here is the full transcript of former firefighter Oral McGuire’s talk titled “How To Live With Fire” at TED 2024 conference.

Listen to the audio version here:

TRANSCRIPT:

I’d like to acknowledge and pay my respect to the Anishinaabe Nation and its Council of Three Fires, the Ottawa, the Chippewa, and the Potawatomi peoples. I am grateful to be here on your sacred ancestral lands. Do you see fire as friend or foe?

In Australia, we have a growing issue around fire that challenges us every fire season. And because of our changing climate, there are now other places in the world that are confronted with this same challenge. My story is about my personal and cultural relationship with fire. It has been a life-long relationship and as a Mangarda Balladong Nyungar, a person from the southwest corner of Australia, I acknowledge fire not only as a friend but as a part of my being and my spirit.

However, I have also seen firsthand how big a threat fire is. During the Black Summer of 2019 and 2020, the east coast of Australia burned like never before. And the whole world saw. The smoke that was huge drifted across the southern Pacific Ocean all the way to Chile and Argentina. And there were glaciers in New Zealand that turned brown from that same smoke.

The Right Fire

Paradoxically, Australia needs fire. My people applied the right fire diligently and expertly for millennia. It shaped the evolution and the DNA of the landscape and of nature itself. The elder in this shot gently reached down and lit the grass and the ground that we were standing on. As the fire slowly trickled, he said to us, “Go and stand near a tree and observe what you see.” What we saw was amazing.

There were all these various insects and critters clambering up the tree trunk, escaping the slow-moving fire.