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TRANSCRIPT: A Menu of Foods We Might Lose Forever: Sam Kass

Read the full transcript of culinary entrepreneur Sam Kass’ talk titled “A Menu of Foods We Might Lose Forever” at TED Countdown Dilemma Series: Food on June 5th, 2024.

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TRANSCRIPT:

Hello, everybody. I am here to welcome you to the Last Supper. This menu has been put together with ingredients that experts and models predict will not be around for our kids and our grandkids. And you’ll see that it’s many of the foods that we hold dear.

Now I started off my career as a chef and then into policy and now working on technology and innovation, trying to build some of the solutions for the future. I first came up with this menu idea in 2015, around COP21 in Paris. And the point of this menu is not to depress you. It’s not to, you know, make you feel bad. It’s to really talk about what’s at stake when we say the words climate change. What do the words climate change actually mean? What does two degrees’ warming actually mean?

I’m from Chicago, like, two degrees’ warming, that sounds good. I’m like, “Let’s warm it up a little bit, what about five?” And I think we’ve really failed to connect what’s truly at stake when we talk about the issues that we’ve been discussing today.

Hors d’oeuvres and Appetizers

So let’s get into it. Let’s start with the hors d’oeuvres, those appetizers. Let’s turn to fruit. Turns out that trees are really having a tough time. And this includes nuts and stone fruit, like pistachios and almonds or peaches. Last year, we lost 95 percent of the Georgia peach crop. 95 percent. And when you start to look at the models, and how our environment is changing in our lifetimes, I don’t believe we’ll be growing peaches in Georgia at all.

Let’s talk about the wheat in your bread or the rice in your salad, or the chickpeas in one of the dishes — some of the core commodities, the core staples that feed the world. But in the United States, the models show that about for every one degree of warming, we’ll lose about 7.5 percent yield. We’ll decline about 7.5 percent, year over year.

That’s only part of the story. The other challenge is right now, on a global basis, 15 percent of the world’s wheat is produced in persistent drought conditions. But if and when we hit that two degrees, 60 percent of the world’s wheat will be produced in persistent drought conditions. So not only are we going to see a precipitous decline of yields over time, we’re going to see much more frequent disruptions and complete collapses of harvest in certain regions.

It is impossible to comprehend the economic upheaval as we start to see these core commodities decline, the food insecurity and malnutrition that will result of this, and the political instability of forced migration and conflict over resource as these core foods that feed most of the world start to decline because of climate.

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Main Course

So let’s go to your main course, let’s go to salmon. Salmon are also having a really tough time. We all know their epic journeys up rivers to spawn. And those rivers are not only warming but we’re starting to see reduced flows into them because of reduced snowpack. And by about 2050, the models show that we will lose about half of that flow into those rivers because of reduced snowpack, making that journey for those fry back to the ocean nearly impossible.

But there’s also massive heat waves that are flowing through our oceans now. Those heat waves lower the oxygen levels and make the environment really unsuitable for many of these life-forms. This past year, just a few weeks ago, California announced it had closed the entire commercial fishing for the whole state, the whole coast, because, essentially, there weren’t any fish to fish. This is not some far-out future challenge.

Dessert

Now I wish I could tell you, you know, you’re still going to have your dessert and everything is fine, but I’m sorry, I have to come for your chocolate, too. And in some ways, chocolate is faring the worst.

You’ve probably never had a bite of chocolate that wasn’t grown within about 10 degrees of the equator by smallholder farmers. And there is not a single model that shows that, if and when we hit two degrees, that any of that region will be suitable for chocolate production. It will be too dry and too hot. That means those trees are going to have to walk and move. They’re not very good at that.

And the communities that that will affect are ones that do not have the resources to weather storms of that nature. The economic and social upheaval that will come from those kind of changes is profound. And again, this year, not in 2040 or 2050, chocolate prices are up by 50 percent, because those production ecosystems have been hammered by drought and extreme weather. 50 percent, this year.

Coffee and Tea

I’m going to give you one more. And this is where, like, I just don’t even know what to do. I’m ready to do anything to solve the problem.

Raise your hand if you’ve had a cup of coffee today or a cup of tea. Oh, yeah. I’m sorry, I know. Let’s say, how many of you had two cups? Three? Yeah, four? Alright, guys, we should talk, because I’m a little worried about you. Even for me, and I’m a real coffee person, that’s a little extreme. I’m not going to ask five, because then — Yeah, exactly. I could see it in your face, sir.

So, yeah, coffee too. The IDB predicts that, just similar to wine, if and when we hit two degrees, about half of the regions that are currently growing coffee will no longer be suitable for coffee production. About 75 of the 124 wild varieties of coffee are on the verge of extinction right now, and that’s really a problem, because much of the genetic material that we will need to try to produce hybrid varieties that could thrive in much more volatile climate are going to be lost.

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But the point here is not to depress you or to scare you, it’s not.