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The Neuroscience of Restorative Justice: Dan Reisel (Transcript)

Read the full transcript of Dan Reisel’s talk titled “The Neuroscience of Restorative Justice” at TED Talks 2014 conference.

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TRANSCRIPT:

DAN REISEL: I’d like to talk today about how we can change our brains and our society. Meet Joe. Joe’s 32 years old and a murderer. I met Joe 13 years ago on the lifer wing at Wormwood Scrubs high-security prison in London.

I’d like you to imagine this place. It looks and feels like it sounds: Wormwood Scrubs. Built at the end of the Victorian Era by the inmates themselves, it is where England’s most dangerous prisoners are kept. These individuals have committed acts of unspeakable evil.

Studying Psychopaths

And I was there to study their brains. I was part of a team of researchers from University College London, on a grant from the U.K. department of health. My task was to study a group of inmates who had been clinically diagnosed as psychopaths. That meant they were the most callous and the most aggressive of the entire prison population.

What lay at the root of their behavior? Was there a neurological cause for their condition? And if there was a neurological cause, could we find a cure? So I’d like to speak about change, and especially about emotional change.

Personal Background

Growing up, I was always intrigued by how people change. My mother, a clinical psychotherapist, would occasionally see patients at home in the evening. She would shut the door to the living room, and I imagined magical things happened in that room. At the age of five or six I would creep up in my pajamas and sit outside with my ear glued to the door.

On more than one occasion, I fell asleep and they had to push me out of the way at the end of the session. And I suppose that’s how I found myself walking into the secure interview room on my first day at Wormwood Scrubs. Joe sat across a steel table and greeted me with this blank expression.

First Encounter with Joe

The prison warden, looking equally indifferent, said, “Any trouble, just press the red buzzer, and we’ll be around as soon as we can.” I sat down. The heavy metal door slammed shut behind me. I looked up at the red buzzer far behind Joe on the opposite wall.

I looked at Joe. Perhaps detecting my concern, he leaned forward, and said, as reassuringly as he could, “Ah, don’t worry about the buzzer, it doesn’t work anyway.”

Studying Emotional Responses

Over the subsequent months, we tested Joe and his fellow inmates, looking specifically at their ability to categorize different images of emotion. And we looked at their physical response to those emotions. So, for example, when most of us look at a picture like this of somebody looking sad, we instantly have a slight, measurable physical response: increased heart rate, sweating of the skin.

Whilst the psychopaths in our study were able to describe the pictures accurately, they failed to show the emotions required. They failed to show a physical response. It was as though they knew the words but not the music of empathy.

Brain Imaging Challenges

So we wanted to look closer at this to use MRI to image their brains. That turned out to be not such an easy task. Imagine transporting a collection of clinical psychopaths across central London in shackles and handcuffs in rush hour, and in order to place each of them in an MRI scanner, you have to remove all metal objects, including shackles and handcuffs, and, as I learned, all body piercings.

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After some time, however, we had a tentative answer. These individuals were not just the victims of a troubled childhood. There was something else.

The Amygdala’s Role

People like Joe have a deficit in a brain area called the amygdala. The amygdala is an almond-shaped organ deep within each of the hemispheres of the brain. It is thought to be key to the experience of empathy. Normally, the more empathic a person is, the larger and more active their amygdala is.

Our population of inmates had a deficient amygdala, which likely led to their lack of empathy and to their immoral behavior. So let’s take a step back.

Moral Development in Children

Normally, acquiring moral behavior is simply part of growing up, like learning to speak. At the age of six months, virtually every one of us is able to differentiate between animate and inanimate objects. At the age of 12 months, most children are able to imitate the purposeful actions of others.

So for example, your mother raises her hands to stretch, and you imitate her behavior. At first, this isn’t perfect. I remember my cousin Sasha, two years old at the time, looking through a picture book and licking one finger and flicking the page with the other hand, licking one finger and flicking the page with the other hand.

Building the Social Brain

Bit by bit, we build the foundations of the social brain so that by the time we’re three, four years old, most children, not all, have acquired the ability to understand the intentions of others, another prerequisite for empathy. The fact that this developmental progression is universal, irrespective of where you live in the world or which culture you inhabit, strongly suggests that the foundations of moral behavior are inborn.

If you doubt this, try, as I’ve done, to renege on a promise you’ve made to a four-year-old. You will find that the mind of a four-year old is not naïve in the slightest.

The Importance of Early Years

It is more akin to a Swiss army knife with fixed mental modules finely honed during development and a sharp sense of fairness. The early years are crucial. There seems to be a window of opportunity, after which mastering moral questions becomes more difficult, like adults learning a foreign language.

That’s not to say it’s impossible. A recent, wonderful study from Stanford University showed that people who have played a virtual reality game in which they took on the role of a good and helpful superhero actually became more caring and helpful towards others afterwards.

Changing Criminal Behavior

Now I’m not suggesting we endow criminals with superpowers, but I am suggesting that we need to find ways to get Joe and people like him to change their brains and their behavior, for their benefit and for the benefit of the rest of us.