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How Much Is Enough? – Kevin Cavenaugh (Transcript)

Here is the full transcript of real estate developer Kevin Cavenaugh’s talk titled “How Much Is Enough?” at TEDxPortland 2018 conference.

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TRANSCRIPT:

Good morning. You guys seem super lively. This is going to be awesome. This is going to be super fun.

My son Jack made the pants, and they were before this a sofa, which makes me really happy and slightly uncomfortable. So eight years ago, I lived in this house. It’s on Northeast 45th Street in the Beaumont neighborhood. On a random Tuesday after work, I pulled into the driveway and I hollered to my wife and our three kids.

They’re playing on the front lawn. “Hey, hop in the car. We’re going to go on a little field trip.” The kids are in middle school and elementary school, so they’re like, “Yay, field trip!” They jump in.

We roll down the Alameda Ridge, turn right on Sandy Boulevard. Twenty blocks later, we pull into this random parking lot. “Okay, guys, get out. There’s a building on the right there. Door’s unlocked. I’ll meet you inside.”

A Surprising Revelation

Walked in. Surprise. This is our new home. Let me explain. So we’re in the middle of a recession. I’ve lost everything. I have to sell everything, including our house. This crappy building is all we have left. We have to live here. I’m so sorry. It’s going to be an adventure.

The kids are at that amazing age where all they hear is the word adventure. So they’re running around on the greasy floor just screaming, “Awesome!” My wife, meanwhile, she stands perfectly still and she screams a different word.

Finding Enough

But it’s okay, there’s a happy ending. We had four walls and a roof. We had heat, electricity, running water. We had enough. It wasn’t the home of our dreams. It wasn’t the home that we just were forced to leave. But it was home enough. And ever since then, I’ve been obsessed with this word.

Milton Friedman and Capitalism

In 1958, an economist named Milton Friedman burst onto the scene in America. He ultimately wins the Nobel Prize in economics. He is the father of modern day American capitalism. He’s the “greed is good” guy.

Here’s one of his quotes: “The social responsibility of business is to increase its profits.” Not the fiscal responsibility, but the social responsibility of business is to increase its profits. For the past six decades, young men and young women have been drinking from the chalice of Milton Friedman, graduating from college, learning that greed is indeed good.

A Different Perspective

I’m not a fan of the word greed. I have my new favorite word, enough. I found a different quote. It’s from the Indonesian poet, Toba Beta: “Greed is a little bit more than enough.”

So I found myself wondering what a parallel universe would look like. A universe where Toba Beta wins the Nobel Prize in economics instead of Milton Friedman. What would happen if for the past six decades, we all just said enough a little more?

The American Dream and Wealth Inequality

For example, how much is enough wealth? We invented the American dream. Today as I stand before you, 16 countries do it better than us. Today, if you’re born rich, you could be a fool, you’ll likely die rich. If you’re born poor, sadly, you could be a genius and still die poor.

In 1958, when Milton Friedman was first bursting onto the scene, the average CEO made eight times his or her average employee. The next slide shows you today’s number. Any guesses? It’s going to be a gross number. It’s going to be a disgusting number.

CEO Pay Ratios

Big ass number. And that’s pre-tax reform, so I don’t even know what it is. That’s an embarrassing number. I’m not okay with that number. When someone justifies that number, they say, “Well, it’s okay to pay obscene salaries to CEOs because they can make obscene profits for the company.” I kind of say, really? Is that really okay?

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I showed them this slide. Why is it that every country that we respect in the world, why are they closer to our 1958 selves? Canada’s at 20 to 1. England’s at 22 to 1. Germany’s at 12 to 1. No one’s near us at 400, well, actually, there are a couple countries near us at 475 to 1.

A Developer’s Perspective

We don’t want to be standing next to those countries. So this is what I do for a living. I am a commercial real estate developer. I’m the bad guy in the movies, but I was trained as an architect, and I make buildings like this, and like this, and like this. I was not expecting that. Thank you very much.

I can’t do this alone, though. These are big endeavors for me. I have a small company.

Employee Compensation

I have five employees, and I pay them a wage. I, in theory, am the CEO. I get paid, too. But I get to own chunks of these buildings for the long haul. A friend of mine reminded me that no one gets wealthy in America on a wage or on a salary. We say, how much do you make more than your employees? Well, not much. In any given year, not a whole hell of a lot more.

He said, “No, no, no. You make money. You create wealth through long-term passive investments, just like your buildings, Kevin, just like this.” Look it out 15, 20 years.

Sharing the Wealth

What does that look like? I did the math. Holy crap. It’s about 475. Disgusted with that information, now, every year, any one of my employees works for me, they get a little sliver of all of my buildings. Well, all of our buildings. It’s not life-changing money.

In the case of the Fairhead Dumbbell, you work for me for one year, you get one quarter of 1% of that building. If you’re sitting in that desk, though, for 10 years, that’s worth over a half a million dollars.