Skip to content
Home » How to Harness Abundant, Clean Energy for 10 Billion People: Julio Friedmann (Transcript)

How to Harness Abundant, Clean Energy for 10 Billion People: Julio Friedmann (Transcript)

Here is the full transcript of physicist Julio Friedmann’s talk titled “How to Harness Abundant, Clean Energy for 10 Billion People” at TED 2023 conference.

Listen to the audio version here:

TRANSCRIPT:

The Most Common Question

The question I am most commonly asked about climate change is, “Should I be optimistic or pessimistic?” I thought about this question a lot. My career has been at the intersection of climate science, technology, policy and industry, mostly working for you, at one point working for a US president and now as Chief Scientist and Chief Carbon Wrangler at Carbon Direct. At that intersection, I think about that question in terms of energy flows and carbon abatement options.

So I ponder a variant of that question, “How much energy should 10 billion people use?” I was first prompted to think about this question by the late, great Richard Smalley. Nanotechnologist, Nobel Prize-winning chemist, co-discovered buckyballs. Total mensch.

Richard Smalley’s Talk

He gave an important and influential talk almost exactly 20 years ago, in which he laid out the top ten challenges to humanity: energy, water, food, poverty, the environment, health. And then he said something kind of obvious. All of these are energy challenges.

Water is the most straightforward. Three quarters of the Earth’s surface is covered with water. It’s too salty to drink or use. The primary cost of desalination is energy.

Food. I like food. Eighty percent of the food consumed around the world moves through modern agriculture. That means synthetic fertilizers, combines that harvest, refrigeration, shipping — they’re all energy.

Climate. That’s my day job. How do we go from 54 billion tons of greenhouse gases every year to less than zero very quickly? And so on.

The Need for Abundant Clean Energy

Abundant clean energy can make progress against this whole list. So Richard estimated what he thought it would take for 10 billion humans to live more or less like the United States. And his answer was: 60 terawatts. Keep that number in your mind: 60. For reference, today the world uses about 26 terawatts of energy. About eight terawatts of that are electricity.

Now the urgency of climate means that we have to — For all of the energy we use today and all future energy really has to be abundant, sustainable and cheap. Abundant, available where you want it, when you want it. Everybody should have energy, including the three billion people who use less electricity than my refrigerator uses.

However, it should also be sustainable. We can’t emit a lot of greenhouse gases. We can’t trash nature. Ideally, it’s cheap, a lot cheaper than today. Maybe half or a third of what the US pays. That would be 20 dollars a megawatt-hour or a dollar a gigajoule. And remember it’s energy, not electricity. We also need heat for heavy industry. We need clean fuels, things like clean hydrogen or sustainable aviation fuels.

The Challenge of Providing Abundant, Sustainable, Cheap Energy

Well, that seems hard. And it is. But if you know that’s what you need or what you want — abundant, sustainable, cheap energy — we have a new question to ponder. How do we get 60 terawatts of that to 10 billion people?

ALSO READ:  Me Too is a Movement, Not a Moment: Tarana Burke (Full Transcript)

Well, the good news is every day the Earth receives 163,000 terawatts of energy from the sun. About half of that bounces back to space, but about 80,000 terawatts arrive at the Earth in a form we can use. For example, the air, land and oceans convert some of that into about 870 terawatts of wind.

These are bigger numbers than 60, and we’ve got more than solar and wind. We have geothermal, we have hydro, we have nuclear. There’s other kinds of clean energies, and some of the best resources are, in fact, in the global South. These places are not simply future climate victims. These places are latent energy superpowers. And we’ve made some good starts.

Chile’s Clean Energy Initiatives

Let’s look at Chile, blessed with abundant hydro, solar and wind. They can make green electrons on demand. A lot of those green electrons are going to get turned into hydrogen and ammonia, the key ingredient for fertilizer, itself a good fuel and a great way to move clean energy around the world.

Now Chile has prioritized using these green electrons and hydrogen to decarbonize its own grid and for domestic energy use, for things like mining. They are also building infrastructure. They’re building out the grid and ports for trade and commerce. This prioritization, this emphasis on infrastructure is the difference between a neocolonial economy and a new economy built on abundance.

Let’s go to Kenya, home of the second most productive wind farm on Earth in Lake Turkana, home of the second largest geothermal program on Earth and future home of the Great Carbon Valley, where this abundant, sustainable, cheap energy will create whole new industries and pull CO2 out of the sky. Now those are good starts.

The Need for More Investment and Development

But we have far, far to go. Hashtag “WeNeedMore.” Specifically, we need new investment vehicles, and we need development mechanisms that recognize the opportunity of abundance as opposed to being built on the scarcities of the past.

My favorite example, Namibia. A young, rapidly growing nation full of promise. One of the very driest places on Earth. Namibia has excellent solar and wind resources, in particular in the southwest. Unsurprisingly, a giant 10-billion-dollar project is bouldering along that will land 3,000 megawatts of solar on the ground, 3,000 megawatts of wind that will feed 3,000 megawatts of electrolyzers that will make clean hydrogen and ammonia for export to Europe, and European countries and European industries are providing the long-term offtakes.

In addition, the port of Lüderitz is getting an upgrade and there’s going to be jobs and wealth creation in Namibia. I love this project. What’s not to like? Namibia gets wealth and jobs.