Marriage 2.0 – A System Update for Lifelong Relationships: Liza Shaw (Transcript)

Following is the full transcript of marriage & family therapist Liza Shaw’s TEDx Talk: Marriage 2.0 – A System Update for Lifelong Relationships @ TEDxHickory conference.


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Liza Shaw – Marriage & Family Therapist

My name is Liza Shaw. I’m a marriage and family therapist and I have been working in the passion of my life for the last 15-20 years. I’d say the last 10 years what I’ve been doing is discovering my expertise. And it surprised me when I discovered it, because what I like to do probably most people when I tell them they kind of go, ooh that sounds like it’d be hard and messy.

What I do is what I specialize in is working with people who are on the edge of breakdown, and in particular, couples, families on the edge of breakdown. And what I love about that of course is not the breakdown, but it’s what comes after of course which is the breakthrough, and it is what I get up every day to do.

I literally am one of those people who are lucky to wake up every morning and go — I can’t wait to get to work. So I just am super blessed and I’m excited to share this passion with you guys today.

I want to start — it’s called Marriage 2.0 — but I want to make an acknowledgement that anyone in a lifelong committed relationship will be able to relate to the ideas here today.

And I also want to start with an acknowledgement. So just think about people you know in your life who are in a lifelong committed relationship and maybe you’re in one, or maybe you want to be in one. Just think about them. Who do you know how many people can you count that you know are in an amazing, thriving, awesome, passionate, excited to wake up every morning relationship? How many role models do we have in our culture of people who’ve been together for a long period of time and are still totally into it? It gets kind of small, right?

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So we don’t have a lot of that around. We have a whole lot more of the drama and the upsets and the breakdowns; don’t we? It’s what we see a lot of. Of course, it’s what sells in the media and it becomes what we think is normal.

I’ve come up with my own kind of simple idea for why and I’m not sure if this is really why or not. It’s just my theory.

The old model of marriage has been around for a really long time, okay. It’s been around for several thousands of years. People lived a whole lot shorter when marriage was first invented. And lifelong marriage was created, I would say then, as about a 10 to 30-year proposition at the most.

Essentially if someone was married at age 15 and lived to be about 35 years old, then this lifelong relationship would only be about 20 years long. Well, the idea is that the platform if you will of marriage and what it’s made up of and how it’s evolved over time I would say works for about between 10 and 30 years. This is what I see in my practice.

My clients come in. I ask them, you know, when they come in and I’ve already found out that they’re here to work on their relationship which is breaking down, and they’re not sure if they’re going to be able to make it and they want to work on it. I find that overwhelmingly people have been together from between like 10 and 30 years.

Now there’s the outliers but this is just in general what I’ve discovered. And I believe this is really not a problem. I’m not saying like this is wrong. I’m saying it’s a design flaw. It’s that — as a species we’ve developed and we’ve evolved physically but socially we’re a little bit behind.

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And so it’s time for us to upgrade, you know like until we have people-less cars we actually do have to teach people how to drive but we don’t do that much real over teaching about how to have relationships really be awesome and really really thrive. And then we don’t see it either around us.

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