Here is the full transcript of former U.S. Army officer Stanislav Krapivnik’s interview on The Greater Eurasia Podcast: ‘Odessa Is a Key Goal in Ukraine War Endgame’, January 16, 2026.
Brief Notes: In this episode, host Glenn Diesen speaks with Stanislav Krapivnik, a former U.S. Army officer born in Donbas, about the deteriorating situation on the Ukrainian front lines and the broader geopolitical implications. Krapivnik provides a detailed analysis of recent Russian advances, particularly in the south near Zaporizhzhia, and explains why he believes the Ukrainian defense is increasingly collapsing under the weight of attrition and logistical failures.
The conversation also explores the potential for the conflict to escalate beyond Ukraine, touching on the shifting roles of European powers and the impact of recent U.S. foreign policy shifts. This deep dive offers a sobering perspective on the “endgame” of the war and the strategic challenges facing both NATO and Russia.
The Collapsing Southern Front
GLENN DIESEN: Welcome back to the program. We are joined again by Stanislav Krapivnik, a former U.S. Army officer born in Donbas and returned to Russia. Thank you, as always, for coming back on. Let us perhaps start with the front lines at the moment, because this is something that you’re following quite closely.
It appears that the Russians are moving a bit across the entire front, but especially down in the south along the Zaporizhzhia frontline, where things are moving the fastest, which is kind of critical if the main city falls under drone control. Most of the city is on the eastern bank of the Dnieper. So it seems like a lot of this could have huge consequences fairly soon. How are you reading the current situation?
STANISLAV KRAPIVNIK: Well, you’ve got two major cities left in Zaporizhzhia that are in defensible positions. You have Orikhiv on one side, and then further up, you have Zaporizhzhia city. The eastern front of Zaporizhzhia was being held by Huliaipole. And Huliaipole didn’t wander off too far before it’s now fallen.
Originally, the Russian forces had a lot of problems taking Huliaipole because it’s on a hill surrounded by flatlands, open flatlands, farmlands. So coming up to it is actually pretty difficult because you’re exposed from all sides. Russia had a lot of problems getting at it, especially from the south and southeast for several years.
Eventually, as the enemy forces are getting thinned out, Russia was able to charge in from the east, take out two villages in the east that were fortified as a defensive line, and then come straight across those open areas and invest the city.
Why I’m saying this is for the last couple days, the Ukrainians started trying to do suicidal—and they are suicidal—counterattacks into Huliaipole. As the Russian armies now started moving past Huliaipole and solidify, Huliaipole was a bulge. So from the south, they solidified, made a straight line in the north. There’s about half of those fortified positions still left in Ukrainian hands.
But they’re being rolled up because Russia went flanked around them where there weren’t any troops and built up positions further north. And they start rolling down on them. About half of them have already been cleared, and the remaining are either going to stand and die or surrender because getting out is very difficult. The Russian forces are on both sides of that fortified line and they’re in open areas. So drone coverage is thick.
Suicidal PR Stunts
Well, the Ukrainians have started these suicide attacks trying to charge into Huliaipole. At best, here’s your mission: survive long enough to get a flag up, have a photo taken, and then do whatever. They never get to do whatever. They don’t survive that far because they’re coming across the same type of open fields, except the trees aren’t green. It’s much more open now. There’s even less places to hide, and they’re just being exterminated as they come charging in. A company here, a company there.
So the Ukrainians are doing a PR stunt to try to say, “See, we’ve taken Huliaipole.” Now as for Zaporizhzhia itself, the Russian army has rolled up on the coast of the Dnieper River. South of Zaporizhzhia city, there used to be a huge water reservoir. Remember the Ukrainians, down to Enerhodar, where the operational nuclear power plant is—the Ukrainians blew the dam, which also washed out quite a few Russian positions south across Kherson. They’ve been rebuilt since then.
But the problem is that entire lake didn’t just go away and become open land to charge across. It just became one giant swamp. So you can’t really do anything across it because it’s mud, it’s swampy, and it’s very, very open. So they didn’t get an advantage to try to take the Zaporizhzhia power plant, the nuclear power plant. But they did do a lot of damage to themselves and also the Russian positions, particularly across Kherson. But again, that was a year and a half ago. So those positions have been rebuilt.
Russia’s continued going up the edge of that new swamp marshland. Eventually, the dam will be rebuilt one day, and then that area will become a big water reservoir again. The Russian forces are now about 15 kilometers from Zaporizhzhia city, which means they’ve entered the agglomeration of villages and towns. So suburbia is the other way to put it.
The suburbia that goes about 15 kilometers—and for the Americans that are stuck on the standard system, that would be about 8 or 9 miles south of the edges of Zaporizhzhia city. Anybody living in America is very familiar with giant, endless cities that go past the border and just keep going and going. Suburbia. So that’s what the Russian forces are now entering is the suburban zone.
The Threat to Zaporizhzhia City
The suburban zone primarily runs along the edge of the river. So not that much, not that deep into the countryside. And they’ve got to a point where they’re hitting the suburban area and they’re also branching out east, because they’re now overhanging Orikhiv from the north.
That’s your last big fortified position in Zaporizhzhia, short of Zaporizhzhia city itself. Zaporizhzhia city is a flat open area with one major bridge across the Dnieper that’s going to be hard to hold. And it’s basically like on a piece of flat paper you’re looking down on. So that’s not a place that they’re going to be able to hold.
It still has obvious roads going in from the north and northeast, but they’re open terrain. So anything going in there is going into Drone Death Valley. You come in there to try to fortify or try to bring in supplies, you’re on the gambit of every drone operator that’s working in that area, plus aviation—fixed wing, rotary wing aviation. That’s a hell of a place to be if you want to die.
So that’s going to be something that I’m sure they’ll stand and hold because that’s what they do every single time. They’ll lose another 20,000, 30,000, 40,000 people there, turning the city into a ruin that Russia will eventually rebuild, but they’re not going to be able to hold it.
And from there on, that’s straight up into the Dnipropetrovsk Oblast from the south. And after Dnipropetrovsk, they’ll be running up north into Poltava. Now, that bridge, that crossing area goes straight toward Kryvyi Rih, it goes toward Nikopol, and then that is a flanking around Mykolaiv toward Odessa.
The Path to Odessa
Sooner or later, Russia will cross into Kherson. And once there’s a threat further north, crossing into Kherson is going to be much easier. In the south, once you’re across and you rebuild the bridges into Kherson, then it’s a run toward Mykolaiv and after Mykolaiv to Odessa. And you have to take Mykolaiv because if you even skirt the coast, Mykolaiv is your flanking threat.
So you have to take out that big flanking threat that had a military buildup before. That’s why Russia before couldn’t go toward Odessa because it didn’t have enough troops to take Mykolaiv, and Mykolaiv was posing as a big threat. So it’s easier if we have a map up, obviously, for people who don’t know the locations, but they can look it up.
So that’s the situation in the south. The south is collapsing. The suicide PR attacks into Huliaipole are ending every single day in the same thing.
GLENN DIESEN: Just a lot of dead bodies.
STANISLAV KRAPIVNIK: Bodies or mangled bodies, but they continue to do it. It makes no military sense whatsoever. It’s strictly PR. Any general that was doing some of this, if he had any honor in him at all—and Syrskyi doesn’t, so we don’t have to worry about it.
Syrskyi, who, by the way, paid for his father to go to a hospital. His family lives in Russia. He paid, apparently he transferred money to his father for him to go to a private hospital in Russia, as opposed to the public hospital. Yeah, you read that any way you want to read that right there. That tells you a lot right there about the situation in Ukraine.
The Northern and Central Fronts
But that’s the situation. Further north, the front’s moving. It’s moving slower, except around Kostiantynivka. There’s a push into the southwest of Kostiantynivka. Now again, we’ll see how fast that clears out, because Russia is pushing its reserves that were used for Myrnohrad into Kostiantynivka, the fight to the north of it.
And Ukraine is pushing all of whatever it’s left of its reserves into Kostiantynivka to try to stop it. Kostiantynivka is about 65% surrounded. So again, Ukraine loves to get its head as far into a noose as it can and then scream, “We’re still there.”
They’re still claiming they’re still fighting in Myrnohrad. There’s a cleanup operation in Myrnohrad. Small pockets of twos and threes, holdouts who haven’t surrendered or been killed yet. But Myrnohrad, Pokrovsk, they’re all—the fight there has been over for a while now. But that’s what we see now.
We see up in Sumy Oblast, in Kharkiv Oblast, a bunch of new, particularly in Sumy Oblast, a bunch of new incursions. They’re all small, relatively small right now, but they look like they’re flattening out the border, if you want to call it that, because the border is very crooked in areas. So you’re cutting off that extra kilometers of border and straightening it out. That’s a better way to put it.
Now, supposedly there’s a buildup—at least Ukrainians are worried about—there’s a buildup north of Chernihiv, so on the Russian side, in Bryansk. Very possible. So I think at this point, once everything starts collapsing and there’s areas where it’s starting to collapse where Russian reconnaissance and sabotage units are pushing through—now that doesn’t mean that those areas won’t be closed off, but there are several areas where it’s happening right now.
So it could be a bulge to pull attention away from places like Kostiantynivka or Kupiansk, or it could be—and I think Kupiansk itself, if you look at Kupiansk, I’m jumping, I know I’m jumping.
The Kupiansk Trap
If you look at Kupiansk, the counteroffensive in Kupiansk went too easily. The Russian troops pulled back and the Ukrainian side is now worried that they just got sucked into another trap. And the reason I’m saying this is while the Ukrainians were retaking about half of Kupiansk, particularly what’s on the western side of the Oskil River, the Russian military burst through to the north, has continued advancing in the north and has cut off the main supply arteries to Kupiansk.
So the areas that the Ukrainians retook, they’re now cut off from supply. So great, you just shoved yourself back into the bag again and now you can’t get the normal supplies. So ammunition, provisions, everything’s running out. You’re stuck in the middle of winter in a very broken and destroyed landscape.
And winter there—just to understand, it’s cold in Moscow right now. Well, it’s relatively cold. It’s about minus 9, minus 10. Today it’s jumping between minus 4 and minus 20. You go down to Donetsk and it’s jumping between plus 6 and minus 10. Plus 6, it all melts and turns into sludge again.
So again, any supplies Ukrainians are getting in, unless it’s a small amount that a drone can carry, which isn’t much—that’s supplying individual soldiers, not companies, not platoons, not even fire teams—that area, unless you’re driving on built-up roads, you’re not driving anywhere because of the mud. It’s up and down, up and down and the ground just starts to freeze up, it starts melting again. Just starts to freeze up, it starts melting again. So it’s a constant mix.
And even where it freezes up, it doesn’t freeze deep enough that if there’s heavy traffic going in that it’s not going to just turn it back up. And where it turns it up and it freezes, it becomes impassable for other reasons. Unless you’re using tracked vehicles, wheeled vehicles aren’t going to pass ripped-up mud that’s now in holes, waves, bumps, whatever, because it just froze solid after being all stirred up.
So that’s the situation. So those guys are basically, they shoved their heads back into a trap.
The Wider War and Europe’s Dilemma
GLENN DIESEN: Well, what does this mean though for the wider war? And again, defined now as a proxy war because it appears that the war could be entering a whole new phase. Well, first within Ukraine, we see Russia going very heavily after the electric grids, which are now showing that the impact is very huge. And also it’s more enduring than it was in the past. That is, the ability to essentially fix everything thereafter, that ability is being limited.
But at the same time, you see the Europeans are not quite ready to say that they lost the war yet. So they keep making the point that Ukraine should fight on. But we also see the French president coming out saying that they kind of took the signal from Moscow with the Oreshnik, saying that they are within the reach of Russian anger.
So how do you see this war progressing now? Because it does appear that we are reaching a breaking point. If you look at the military or the political stability, the economics, the electric infrastructure, the growing—or we seem to at least be moving closer to—more and more direct war between the Europeans and Russia.
At the same time as the Europeans now have some serious doubt whether the Americans would come to the rescue, especially as Europeans have to send now troops to Greenland to protect it from America. So a lot of the calculations have to be now reconsidered. So how are you assessing what will happen now or the next step in this war?
# European Intervention and the Logistics Nightmare
STANISLAV KRAPIVNIK: Well, you know, there’s a Russian saying, “gola priho”—the hunger comes in the middle of dinner. So once Trump is finished swallowing Greenland, I guarantee you the next target is going to be Iceland. It’ll be closer, it’ll be easier for the Europeans to logistically support. Iceland has a lot of rare earths. Iceland has a lot of energy in the form of thermal, which is great for your data centers. And you don’t have to cool the data, pay the cold data centers, you open the windows. It’s a cold environment. Iceland guarantee you that’s going to be next.
Okay. Also not part of the EU, by the way, but it’ll be safe from the Chinese and the Russians because the Chinese and Russian fleets are just hovering, waiting, you know, waiting. Any second now, we’re going to come in and grab Greenland or Iceland or—
GLENN DIESEN: Canada I guess too, or whatever.
STANISLAV KRAPIVNIK: You know, whatever else enters the God emperor of humanity’s mind for the day.
As far as Ukraine, I’m not going to say they can save it, but the only thing they can stabilize, at least for some time the front right now is if the Europeans just start piling in whatever they have, and that’s only a bandage on a jugular wound. You know how long that’s going to keep the blood from flowing? Not very long because they’ll just get destroyed the same way.
Because again, what most people, you know, there’s a saying, “amateurs debate tactics or strategy, professionals debate logistics.” Because like it or not, modern armies, you can even say modern armies from the Roman legions, they all live and die by logistics. You can’t feed your troops. And you think about Middle Ages and on, you know, you didn’t really have to supply a lot outside of food. Food and maybe kindling, whatever, for the horses, for the men, because the weapons outside of arrows and bolts, you really didn’t have to reach supply.
Modern armies, my lord, you can’t live off the land. You have to have parts for your equipment. You have to have different types of fuel. You have to have tons of spare parts. All of that is supply, that’s real supply, not just food. Now you have bullets, different calibers of bullets, shells again, you have lots of different mechanized equipment. All of it breaks down, all of it has to be repaired.
Ukraine is a nightmare pest, any logistics officer’s nightmare, because Ukraine has tons of different equipment from different countries with different platforms that all thought about, “hey, here, have some tanks.” “Oh, you need some, you need spare parts for those.” Crap, we don’t have any. Cannibalize, you know, I mean, look at the British Army. Britain sent, what was it, 12 or 13 Challengers. Britain’s tank force is cannibalizing its own tanks. And because they’re not producing spare parts for the tanks that have in existence, I mean, you can’t run an army that way for very long before equipment really breaks down.
And you have to have spare parts, not just disposable spare parts like hoses or belts, but serious sub-assemblies too, including, you know, gearboxes and so on, engine rebuilds. And that’s not counting battle damage. Battle damage is a whole different reality that’s just regular wear and tear.
The Infantry-Only Reality
So this, you know, the Ukrainian army, it’s basically down to infantry right now. Thankfully for infantry, you don’t have to quite have as many spare parts for infantry. Just, you know, you just have new infantrymen. They still have at least two or at least one leg that they can still hop on. And I’m quite literal when I say that, because there have been videos of press gangs quite literally grabbing invalid veterans, guys on one leg and scooping them back into buses to send them back to the front.
Guys that had papers that said they were discharged because, you know, they already gave a good amount of hurrah to Zelensky’s despotic criminal regime and lost a leg there or an arm, and they’re being shoved right back up there. You still got another arm, you got a head you can still lose. So that’s what we’re looking at right now in Ukraine.
Will it all collapse at once? No. You know, armies, when armies were covering battlefields of 5, 10, 20 kilometers, yeah, sure, they could collapse all in minutes to an hour as word spread and everybody starts running. When you have armies that are covering a thousand kilometers, of course not. That doesn’t work that way. Plus internally, you know, communications are being controlled, but you will have fronts that are going to start, or sections of fronts are going to start collapsing. They already are.
And then you get advances and advances. The Russian army is being very conservative in those areas where advances, because there’s still some reserves that Ukraine has and they don’t want to get too far out and give Ukraine a PR victory plus lose its own troops.
The Daily Attrition Rate
But the grind is every day, every day Ukraine is losing about 1,000 to 1,500 killed. That’s not counting injured. You double that for at least double that for injured that aren’t coming back. Normally you have a 3 to 1, 3 to 1 to 5 to 1 injury rates, depending on the situation, combat you’re looking at. So you’re looking at the Ukrainians are losing on an average day, they’re losing about a brigade every single day in dead and heavily injured troops. Brigade minus.
And now multiply that out, 60 days, 100 days. You know that it all builds up very quickly and the people coming in, never mind the desertion rates, the people coming in are lower quality, unprepared, often, you know, whatever they can scrape off the streets. And it’s just the situation gets worse and worse.
And now they have veterans deserting because the veterans have figured out the only way they get off the battlefield is either as a corpse or as an invalid. Unless they take matters into their own hands. That’s the only way. Or of course, they could surrender. That would be the smart thing to do. A lot of them don’t seem to have that mental backing there for survival instinct.
So that’s the situation. So it will continue to get worse. And now they’re in the zone of outside of Krasno Leman, which they kind of somewhat built up in a zoom. But if we’re going down the line, not looking in Kharkov and Sumy directions just yet, and going down the line, their great buildup positions are gone. That’s it. They’ve lost all of them except for Slavinsk, Kramatorsk and Konstantinovka, and that’s a sliver in the north.
The rest of that line going down is gone. They’ve been pushed out of those positions. Russia’s done it slowly, is done through attrition and conservation of force. You know, bombs, FOBs, drones and shells are cheaper than men and more easily replaceable. And when you have the enemy outnumbered five to six, tubes to one, you have air dominance, especially when it comes to things like FOBs. Even with the arm tied behind its back that Russia is fighting with now because it’s still not a declared war. It’s ground through the Ukrainian meat. That’s just how it is.
The Mercenary Problem
And any of the Ukraine or any of the mercs they brought in have been ground down, too. They’re still bringing mercs, Latin American mercs. I don’t know why these people go out to fight in a foreign war for people that look at them as a little bit higher than baboons and throw them into suicide attacks. I mean, there’s lots of videos that have been posted by Colombians and Brazilians and Venezuelan mercs screaming, “get me out of here.” You know, “I was supposed to be guarding a depot and I’m being in a suicide squad” or wounded guys laying there.
I remember one of his battle buddies dead and rotting. He’s lying there for second day, both legs shot through, and the Ukrainians are walking right by him and retreating. He’s like, “they won’t pick me up. They won’t even take me to the back. You know, I’m done. You know, I’m bleeding. I’m bleeding out. I’ve been here for two days I have no food.” And you see, Ukrainian guys are just, you know, they’re not real people. Why am I going to pick him up? That’s the mentality.
So I don’t know why these mercs go there. I guess they really have a death wish. Mercenaries are the first ones to get killed because a dead merc, you don’t pay. That’s the reality of it. So you want to be a merc, you know, hey, have fun in whatever time you have.
But that’s only going to continue to accelerate. And what we’re looking at realistically, with no defensive positions is more and more of a push on a daily basis.
Weather as a Double-Edged Sword
The thing that’s saving them and damning them at the same time is the weather. It’s saving them because heavy equipment can’t really move from the Russian side either. Of course, through these kinds of fields. I’ve got to go to the Western equipment. Western equipment has been defective on these areas since World War II. That it uses its overly heavy and uses narrow tracks. So it just sinks. The Nazis had the exact same problem. I guess nobody ever learned their lessons.
Russian equipment has wider tracks, it works better, but it still gets stuck. It works, it traverses better, but it’s still a problem. So until the ground dries up or actually a really, really hard freeze comes in, you’re not going to see a lot of heavy equipment moving.
On the flip side, there’s lots and lots of fog. Haven’t been there just three weeks ago. I can tell you there’s fog almost on a daily basis. And sometimes that fog is pea soup. Thick fog, you cannot see more than a couple meters. Drones do not fly in fog. Drones do not fly in rain. Drones are not flying strong winds. They don’t, you know, the Russian army is now using Chinese-made lasers. There’s only, there’s not that many of them right now. They’ve been test field testing them as anti-drone weapon systems and somebody came out well.
But lasers don’t shoot in the rain. They deflect off the raindrops. All true, all true. But drones don’t fly in the rain either. So hey, yeah, it’s all even. And that’s the situation right now. You get a lot of rain, slash snowstorms, lots of wind and lots and lots of fog.
Fog allows infantry to move without having to be afraid of drones. And Russia has been using that as a very big advantage to move forward and engage Ukrainians in close combat. And a lot of those Ukrainians, they run away from close combat because they’re not trained. These are guys off the street. They’ve been tossed in there. “Here, stand and fight.” When you get veterans coming up at you, they break or they surrender or they die in place. That’s what happens when you throw in absolutely unprepared people.
GLENN DIESEN: Well, I heard some, well, you probably saw the interview by, with Tucker Carlson. He interviewed Professor Sergei Karaganov. He’s a longtime advisor to multiple Russian presidents. He used to be my boss, actually, when I was working small winner work in Moscow while he was the head of my department at the university. But he was telling Tucker Carlson that if the war continues along the line, it’s now that it’s going to end with Russia likely using nuclear weapons against Germany and United Kingdom. You think it would come to this or do you think the escalation between the Europeans and the Russians would spin out of control before there’s a collapse on the Ukrainian front?
The Nuclear Question and European Involvement
STANISLAV KRAPIVNIK: The only thing, okay, so the French are French and I don’t think they’re going to use nuclear weapons because they’ll be exterminated and they know that. There’s the British, but the British nuclear weapons aren’t really British. That’s what people don’t realize. They have four nuclear submarines. They’re all American owned. They’re rented. Three of them are in dry dock for repairs. And those nuclear Trident missiles on there, by the way, also owned by Americans.
So supposedly, at least in theory, the US has a veto on it. I would probably put it a little bit differently. If the war continues to spin out of control between Russia and the US, there will be a, probably at least a limited nuclear exchange. How limited? That’s a good question because how do you limit a nuclear exchange, especially once the cycle starts going? I don’t know. I don’t have an answer to that. Nobody has an answer because thankfully we’re here and not in Fallout in the Fallout series because we haven’t gone down that road yet.
We haven’t nuked each other thankfully and hopefully we don’t have other plans for summer than survival in the wasteland. So it’s much more fun to watch it on television, I think, than to live through it in reality. But if it just stays to the Europeans, I don’t think it’ll go nuclear. Russia has no reason to go nuclear. Russia does not have a first strike doctrine. US, by the way, does.
And that’s why when on one side has first strike and they’re psychotic, that the other side, the logic goes to first strike by the other side because you don’t want, you want predictability in politics, geopolitics. You want to know the other side is not going to do a sneak attack. They’re not going to try to assassinate you while you’re in negotiations by blowing up the buildings you’re sleeping in or sending drones in and things like that. You know that the standard Trump protocol these days, you don’t want, you want the other side predictable.
Because then if they’re predictable and you’re predictable, everybody can let their guard down, relax from DEFCON 5 and let’s have a talk. If the other side could try to assassinate you or try to do a first strike, logic dictates you do a first strike the moment you can. And it just becomes a race who gets to do the first strike. That’s a very bad scenario. Obviously that’s not exactly a win-win, but that’s the logical scenario that we’re seeing right now, unfortunately. So let’s hope that that settles down.
But if the US breaks with NATO, really hoping it does, for obvious reasons, this will be just a fight between the Europeans and Russia. Russia has no reason to go nuclear. Russia doesn’t need to go nuclear.
The Oreshnik Weapon System
The Oreshnik, first of all, just one step back on the Oreshnik, because the Western press is writing about it as a ballistic missile. It is and it isn’t. The missile itself is a ballistic missile. So it has a ballistic trajectory to a certain point. Anti-aircraft systems can work on ballistic trajectories because that’s a formula. You can toss in speed, velocity, angle of ascent, you can pop that in there. And if it’s a typical ballistic arc, you can figure out basically, if you have enough time, where it’s going to come down in the zone and you can pop something in its way to try to take it out. That’s what missile defense is all about.
Problem is, the missile that gets the Oreshnik warhead up into space is a ballistic missile. They’re not exactly lying when they say that. There’s not telling. The other half of it is that the Oreshnik, the actual Oreshnik, which sits on top of the warhead, on top of the missile, is a hypersonic block that launches up to, I think 36 hypersonic gliders. And since for the reason you’d normally launch something like 36, they wouldn’t all be nuclear capable. They’d only be, some of them will be nuclear capable, the rest are decoys.
However, when you’re flying Mach 13, you figure if they’re a one ton instrument each, do the kilojoules, the gigajoules of kinetic energy that gets dispersed. You’re hitting, when they strike, it’s a 4.6 magnitude earthquake in that area within a couple of kilometers. Which by the way, in a cityscape, that wave going where it’s going also pops all your water pipes, your gas pipes and everything else. All your infrastructure in the area that’s underground just gets popped.
But it’s worse than just kinetic energy. I mean each one of those can easily take out a skyscraper and a surrounding block with kinetic energy. But what you’re getting is you’re getting more than that. You get another prize in that. You get the plasma envelope at 4,000 degrees Celsius. The sun is 6,000 degrees Celsius. So you get disintegration, not melting, disintegration of whatever it comes in contact with in that area.
So as it disintegrates its way down up to six or seven stories of reinforced concrete, it’s going to take out whatever bunkers, whatever is in there, plus the actual melt heat damage. After the thing is at that temperature, that plasma, it just breaks up atomic bonds and the atoms fall free. It disintegrates whatever it touches. It doesn’t melt it. Now further out, it melts it. Plus the kinetic energy dump and whatever happens to be in the area, even if you’re deep enough that you survive and it doesn’t reach you, you’re not getting out.
Because that between the earthquake, the heat damage and everything that’s above you is destroyed, you’re just stuck in wherever hole you’re in, more than likely. So you have a weapon system that can destroy any bunkers, any headquarters, any gas storage facilities anywhere in the world. Well, not in, well in this case, if you put it, I guess if you put it in intercontinental missile, you could do it anywhere in the world. But in this case it’s got the range to take out everything up into including Ireland and Iceland.
So do you want to fight? You know, if whatever NATO is or whatever headquarters there is declares war on Russia, I don’t advise being inside NATO headquarters or anywhere around it, you know, within the 20 minutes of declaration, it’s more likely they’ll be in Russia coming to visit.
Russia’s Strategic Intentions
So would Russia do conventional? Yeah, I think Russia would win conventionally anyways. Does Russia want Europe? No, Russia absolutely does not want Europe. Most Russians don’t want anything to do with Europe at this point. The Ukrainian center areas are Russian ethnic homeland, just like Kosovo is a Serbian homeland. Other than that, no. There’s no desire to move further. This is all Western propaganda, it’s all bullshit.
And Russia so far hasn’t built up the logistic force to actually move that far. It can, it has the capacity. But does it want it? No. And Russia is not in a wartime economy. Anybody’s come to Russia. You know, I’ve got an interview coming out with Cameron McGregor who I took down to the Donbass and Rails and he, you know, so how do you like our wartime economy? He’s like, where exactly? It’s 5 to 7% of GDP going toward this whole operation and the military buildup. That’s not a wartime economy.
Wartime economy is 30 to 40%. Can Russia do it? Yes. Does Russia want to do it? No, absolutely not. And at the moment it’s not. On a wartime economy it can start flexing toward a wartime economy in a declaration of war. Quite a few people in the Duma are demanding that. Quite a few well placed, important people in the Duma are demanding that. But so far we haven’t gone to that. Hopefully we don’t have to. And this quite literally is all in the hands of the Europeans.
The Question of a Deal
GLENN DIESEN: Well, from the American side though, they keep suggesting that we are actually close to a deal. The U.S. ambassador to NATO, Whitaker, he made a point. He said, “We are, it’s just the last yard left to finish the war in Ukraine.” Have I missed something? Are they meeting? Are they close to a deal?
I know again, the energy issue is very big for the Ukrainian. Zelensky says, you know, “This is a difficult crisis that has to be managed,” but it’s not a stable crisis. It keeps getting worse very, very fast. So I can see why a desperate situation might compel Ukraine to make further concessions. But it seems kind of clear that the Russians aren’t prepared to make any concessions beyond what they’ve done before. And given that this is considered to be unacceptable by both the Ukrainians and Europeans, I don’t know, how likely do you think this is?
STANISLAV KRAPIVNIK: You know, I love those “we’re 90%, we’re 95%.” Let me give an analogy. I’m 100 kilometers away from Mount Everest. I’ve walked 90 kilometers. See, I’m 90% of the way there. Just happens that the other 10 kilometers are like this. The hardest part is actually climbing up those last 10 kilometers. Oh, geez. This thing actually broke my hand up when I put my hand up. Recognize it? Sorry, I didn’t realize it did that new feature. I guess so, yeah.
So going up those last 10 kilometers, that is the Mount Everest. The other 90 are just a walk up to it. And that’s what we’re looking at. That last 10% is the bridge too far. You know, Market Garden, the bridge too far. It’s the same thing because whatever leverage the west started had in the form of Donbass, Zaporizhzhia, Kherson is quite literally melting away on a daily basis at dozens of kilometers and several settlements every single day as the Russian army moves forward and it moves forward every single day.
So the longer this takes, the less of a leverage, if any leverage you still have over it. Second of all, think that Russia, once Russia has taken 20, 30, 40% of Kharkiv Oblast or Sumy Oblast, is going to turn around and give it up? No. And I’ll tell you one of the reasons no.
When the Russian army was pushed out, it was in 2022 out of Kharkov. But by the way, which also cost the Ukrainian army its armored fist when it left the hierarchy of residential areas to fight in the eastern Kharkov province and came under Russian artillery and aviation umbrella. A lot of the civilians there were murdered by the SBU. There were videos coming out of them, dropping bodies into pits with their hands tied behind their backs.
And anybody that cooperated with the Russian army, not just because there were Russians waiting for the Russian army, but anybody that worked in these cities because they were city worker and they continued working, were deemed enemy of the state and executed, tortured, executed and murdered. And the Russian army knows quite well, and the government knows quite well if they leave these areas again, they have to take the entire population out of there, because that’s why people will be murdered. They hadn’t already been murdered.
So you’re in, you’re in for a, as I said, in for a dime, in for a dollar. That’s basically the same thing you’re facing here. So Russia is not going to back out of those territories. So whatever leverage they think they have is evaporating. And it’s going in the wrong direction for the Europeans or anybody else in those talks.
And after, frankly, after an attempted assassination on Vladimir Vladimirovich with 91 drones, I don’t think there’s any room to really talk. I mean, Russia hasn’t told the US to bugger off, but I don’t think the negotiations, for all intents and purposes, are dead. No matter what points Zelensky comes up.
Zelensky’s True Motivations
The thing is with Zelensky, which a lot of people refuse to understand because sure, for most people that wouldn’t make any sense. Zelensky doesn’t care about Ukrainians. His parents are in Israel, his wife and children are in London. He’s not going to retire in Ukraine. Ukraine for him and the people around him is nothing but a feeding trough. The longer the war goes, the more money he makes and the more money his backers make. Backers being in Washington, London and other places.
He does not give a damn about these people. He is basically a hired hand to run a company that is being liquidated, sold off, piece at a time. That’s what that needs to, how you need to look at it. So why Zelensky isn’t coming to the table? Because he’s not. That’s not his mission statement. His mission statement is to liquidate, get as much money as you can out of this war and that means there’s no people left. Okay, there’s no people left. That’s not an issue.
The Growing Cost of Prolonging the War
GLENN DIESEN: Well, maybe just the last question about something that Lavrov said, because we hear from European leaders that the objective should be to keep Ukraine in the fight, which is, if it’s just to make them lose slower, this seems borderline evil. It is pretty rough.
But the Russians are also saying that if their objective is simply to try to drain Russia as long as possible, that the longer NATO continues this war, the greater the demands will be of Russia. And that makes sense for several reasons. One, as they advance, more territory comes under their control. But also, at a more strategic level, you impose a cost. That is, you tell the opponent, which is NATO here, because if they’re not going to care that much about the human losses, then the loss of strategic territory, this is something problematic.
So every day the war continues, the more we will take. And so the Russians had already said that our demands will only grow from here on. So if you don’t take the deal, it will be worse tomorrow. It’s a good incentive to make the opponent take the deal today if they know that this is the case.
Anyways, what I was going to say was that Sergei Lavrov, he had an interview on January 14 in which he said that we have to discuss, have a serious discussion about the future of the population in Crimea and Novorossiya. So Novorossiya would also include a much wider region. That would be Kharkov, Dnipropetrovsk, Nikolayev, and of course Odessa. Chernigov also, yes.
So you’re having now possible, some would interpret this as an indicator of Russia’s growing demand. Again, it didn’t say this has to come under the Russian Federation. It could just mean that you have to restore some of the human rights or minority rights for Russian speakers, religious rights, let them access the Orthodox Church, cultural rights, and be allowed to. Yeah, but how are you seeing this? Do you see Russia preparing to change the deal on the table?
Putin’s Strategic Silence and Trump’s Chaotic Foreign Policy
STANISLAV KRAPIVNIK: Well, yeah, I think it is, especially after Trump’s last moves. Vladimir Vladimirovich hasn’t been seen that much. He popped up yesterday again and a few other cases, but he hasn’t been seen that much. And when Putin goes silent for an extended period of time, in this case, partially it was the holidays and partially I think there’s a lot of strategizing right now on how we approach.
And this all started with Trump’s attempted, in my view, absolutely in my view, and not only in my view, attempted assassination of Putin. Because if we noticed what we had before the talks, right before Zelensky arrived, Trump had to talk with Putin on the phone. And sometime around right that time, that order had been given to launch those drones. Because those drones are not sitting that close to Valdai. Valdai is in Novgorod Oblast, which is northwest of Moscow. So that’s a decently long flight, that’s about an hour, hour and a half flight at least for those drones.
So I think that they were planning, if it was a success, they’d have a nice little conference and announcement between Trump and Zelensky. Mission solved, war is over, we’ve killed Putin. Hahaha. Which would have been probably followed by DEFCON 5 from the Russian side or something like that. But they don’t think that far back through, as we see in Venezuela. Trump’s plan in Venezuela: we grab Maduro and then everything is ours. Well, and then the next day, now what do we do? Okay, now we start planning, you know, the stuff that you’re supposed to do before you embark on your new adventure.
And I think America, between figuring out what to do with Venezuela, figuring out Greenland, figuring out if they’re going to start a new war with Iran. Because by the way, those protests are over in Iran, partially because Iran and Russia are very close now in military terms. And Russia brought in equipment that has shut down Musk’s Starlink, which was being used by these various Western-backed factions to cause the problems they were causing and the murders that they were committing, and that all shut down real quick.
So now Trump’s down to, well, there’s not going to be a popular revolution in Iran. What do we do? And there’s aircraft, there’s at least one, maybe two aircraft battle groups that are steaming toward the Persian Gulf. They didn’t want to enter the Persian Gulf. That’s suicide. But they’re steaming there. So what do we do next? War with Iran?
Well, if Israel enters that war with Iran and goes nuclear, Iran will destroy Israel by wiping out, I think it’s the Negev nuclear power station in the middle of Israel. They’ll take it out and there’ll be a nuclear meltdown. And that area isn’t going to be inhabitable either. It’s mutual assured destruction, whether Israel realizes it or not. I think they do.
But either way, Trump’s attention is going very far away from, and what am I even talking about? China and everything else. And they’re continuing to try to push India into a war with China that the Indians aren’t too interested in. So who knows what new things Trump will come up with, because that last Pakistani-Indian flare-up had American fingerprints all over the Pakistani side, and it definitely wasn’t from the Chinese side pushing the Pakistanis into it.
So I don’t know. But either way, all of that deserves attention because, by the way, Cuba, Mexico, Colombia, and Nicaragua apparently are all on Trump’s hit list, as he’s mentioned and as Rubio’s mentioned, and it looks like they’re planning on something to try another Bay of Pigs in Cuba. I mean, they’re all over the place.
And everybody, we’re talking about Greenland and Iceland and ICE inside of the US causing all kinds of issues that we could do a separate program just on that. I spent four hours going through all these videos on what ICE is doing, and they are totally out of control. And I think they’re controllably out of control to cause an insurrection-type situation and then declaration of emergency powers. But that’s a whole separate issue.
But all of that’s pulling Trump’s attention. So whatever Russia’s new demands, they’re not going to pay a lot of attention to that. Trump’s busy. He’s busy building his internal and external empire. I mean, in the flat open, we’ve taken the velvet gloves off, the steel gauntlet type of empire.
Europe’s Impossible Choice: Escalation or Capitulation
So the Europeans are going to be stuck. What are they going to do? Russia makes new demands. They have one of two options. Back the hell off and consent to them, or escalate. Escalate means war. Companies like Rheinmetall then get an Oreshnik welcome gift. You know, do you want to go to war? That’s the question that comes down.
And every nation in NATO is going to have to answer that question. I think half of them are going to go, no thanks, we’re out. We’re sitting this out. Tap out. The northern Europeans, the Scandinavians, they seem to be, the polls in this case seem to be very hell-bent on war. Though I think the French are starting to waver. Go figure. They’re all over the place anyways. So who knows what tomorrow is with the quality of coke that Macron gets.
GLENN DIESEN: This is a great irony of trying to keep the war going, because as long as the war keeps on going, the Europeans will be excessively dependent on the United States to, well, to come to our rescue if something goes really bad. But as we grow this huge dependence on the United States, the US can see this and they can cash in on it, as we see with Greenland.
If it wasn’t, if it weren’t in this war, it’s not even a proxy war anymore. It’s more a direct war with the Russians. If this wasn’t happening, the Europeans could afford to take a bit harder line and actually stand up for their own interest. But it’s very difficult to do now.
So this objective of keeping a war going, which then makes the Europeans so dependent, which allows them to be extorted in this way, it’s quite amazing to watch, especially when they’re increasingly also recognizing that they can’t win this thing anyway. So it is flabbergasting how we’re actually here.
And of course that’s just looking at the Europeans. I mean, you would think that over time it would be in everyone’s interest to have a stable, functioning Ukraine as well, as a bit of a buffer between Russia and the rest of the Europeans. But if this keeps on going, it might not even survive as a nation.
Europe’s Energy Stranglehold and Strategic Paralysis
STANISLAV KRAPIVNIK: Definitely. Look, first of all, what are the Germans going to say against the Americans? When Americans say, oh really? Off button on the LNG, all the tankers just turned around. Bye bye. That’s it. Now what do the Germans do? They don’t have LNG, they don’t have gas from Russia. Norway does not produce enough gas to feed all of Europe. No matter how hard Norway can try, it just can’t.
The US really can’t even feed all of Europe in gas. But there’s no alternatives now. And that goes for much of Europe. So right there they’re already stuck. They’ve got their freedom molecules stuck in their throats. Well, what do you do? You burn down all the bridges.
And you’re absolutely right. You’re absolutely dependent on the US. European suppliers simply cannot meet that demand level. Russia just blew up, part of the Russian strike was on the gas storage facilities that also had European gas in there. I guess they figured that if our gas was in there too, they won’t dare strike. Well, they struck, so.
And you’re right. What do you do now? You’re screwed. Because even if you want to go to war, how do you build the equipment? I mean, I guess you could go back to coal, but that takes a little bit of time too. How do you, you know, Merkel finally came out and said, oh, blowing up all of our nuclear power plants was probably a bad idea. Demolishing them. Really? Wow, that’s great. You know, close the barn door after the horses are gone and the barn’s burned down. That makes a lot of sense.
But that’s what you’re facing right now. So what do the Europeans do?
GLENN DIESEN: I don’t know.
STANISLAV KRAPIVNIK: I mean, I’m sure the US will sell weapons. If the Europeans give up all their gold, silver, virgins, you know, I don’t know what else they’re going to give up. There’s not much more past that. The crown jewels. Maybe it’ll get you a couple more tanks, but that’s the reality we’re looking at.
Yeah, Europe is absolutely screwed. Any which, well, the non-Russian Europe and particularly the non-Austro-Hungarian Europe, which seems to at least have come to its senses. Everything else in Europe is screwed.
GLENN DIESEN: You might be underestimating our armies. I heard that the British were able to get one guy to Greenland and the Norwegians, we put together a team of two soldiers.
The Logistics Reality: America’s Dependence on Foreign Ships
STANISLAV KRAPIVNIK: That’s a fire team, baby. I think the Americans will drive by, here, have an MRE so you don’t starve to death as they keep going. Europe, by the way, doesn’t have logistics. Interestingly enough, the majority, particularly almost all the seaborne logistics in NATO is US.
I’ll take that even further with this little short story just to understand what the American logistics is at. So I was a project manager in preparing an exercise. I was a captain at this point, an exercise where we were deploying, prior to Iraq Two, we’re deploying an aviation unit from Tennessee down to Fort Jackson, Florida, loading them up on ships. I was in charge of all this. Bringing them into Henderson, Texas, I think it’s called, unloading them there. And then they proceed on to Fort Polk, Louisiana for train-up prior to Iraq.
Well, I get to Fort Jackson, Florida, because I’m doing a recon. A bunch of other people that are different unit representatives are supposed to be supporting all this. And I’m walking down the pier, the military part of Fort Jackson Port. And I’m walking down this, this is, by the way, this is 2002. And I’m walking down the pier with a major who’s in charge of this pier.
And they’re loading Marine, US Marine Corps heavy equipment onto a ship, onto a transport ship. It’s tanks, in this case, M1 tanks. And the interesting part is the flag that ship was flying was a Russian flag. And I’m standing there looking and it’s like, okay, what am I missing here, sir?
He’s like, oh, you don’t understand, Captain. We don’t have a merchant marine. Our merchant marine hasn’t built any new ships since the 1950s and they’re all in dry dock waiting to be cut up for scrap metal up in New York or somewhere around there. We float everything on private transport ships. In this case, at that point it was Norwegian, Greek, and Russian ships. They were primarily used.
So even the US has big issues. But I mean they can nationalize transport ships, but they are still the backbone of the logistics, the naval logistics for all of NATO. So yeah, I’ll start dropping those three poor suckers in. Here’s some food and some money to buy some more food and some ammo. You’re screwed. What can you do?
You’re stuck in Greenland waiting for it to be either liberated by the Yanks or to be oppressed by Mordor. That’s going to come from Russia and China and the lightning and the storm clouds, just like that meme that came out from the White House. So yeah, that’s the situation.
But one side note, sorry to interrupt. One side note. There’s been an interesting development. The other day, guess who just re-registered their logos in Russia?
GLENN DIESEN: Whom?
STANISLAV KRAPIVNIK: Mercedes Benz.
GLENN DIESEN: Really?
STANISLAV KRAPIVNIK: I think they want their factory back. Only about 20 to 30% of the foreign companies ever left. Mostly they were Germans. They went lockstep as they were told. The Americans at rest either didn’t leave or just changed the name and made a subsidiary and stayed. But the Germans all left. So yeah, Mercedes Benz is re-registering and it seems to be wanting back into the market.
GLENN DIESEN: Well, given that they can’t compete that well anymore, it seems foolish to cut yourself off such a huge market.
STANISLAV KRAPIVNIK: Well, if they build in Russia, they get the cheap energy and cheap metal.
The German Industrial Migration to Cheap Energy
GLENN DIESEN: Because a lot of the German companies, they actually follow the Russian energy. That is when the energy went to China, a lot of the German companies packed up, they went to China and built there instead. So it’s, you know, this idea that politicians can control everything. Some things are beyond their control.
And actually that was the point I was going to get to with this, you know, the sending one or two soldiers here and there. I spoke on this channel, actually, with the former director for Russia analysis at the CIA, George Beebe, and he was making the point, this is almost a year ago, that the main weakness of the Europeans was that there was no strategy.
That is, you know, strategy. You outline clearly what you want to achieve, but also how you achieve it, how do you obtain the resources and allocate them to achieve this objective and of course, taking into account how the opponent will react and respond.
But he made a point. You don’t see any of this coming out of Europe. It’s just normative talk about what they think is fair. And there’s narratives about, you know, how we are the force of light, they’re the force of darkness. And if we don’t do anything, they will march on Berlin. So they kind of lock themselves into these narratives and they don’t have any strategy at all.
STANISLAV KRAPIVNIK: Which—
The Absence of European Strategy
GLENN DIESEN: So if you can’t win, what the hell are you doing? And I think that this was his main point, but I tried to get answers from this as well. What exactly do we think we’re going to achieve here?
And usually you get some way of justifying it. You inflate the Russian casualty numbers, you invent another disease for President Putin and—
STANISLAV KRAPIVNIK: You know, one day it will fall apart. Are there any diseases he hasn’t suffered through yet?
GLENN DIESEN: I think he’s survived most diseases now, apparently.
STANISLAV KRAPIVNIK: Yeah, he’s truly the indestructible man because he’s—I love reading the British press headlines. That’s a gem every day. What is it?
GLENN DIESEN: It goes so far, though. I mean, only the last week, there was an article that the Russians have suffered so much with lack of food that they started eating each other. And it just—but at the same time, you know, we’re ready to march on Poland. Just—
STANISLAV KRAPIVNIK: Well, we need—we ran out of people to eat. We’ve got to eat the Poles next. Come on.
GLENN DIESEN: Yeah, no, it’s kind of wild, but—
STANISLAV KRAPIVNIK: The breadbasket of the world, by the way, is now having to eat each other.
GLENN DIESEN: I would say the British propaganda isn’t what it used to be. They used to do it quite well.
STANISLAV KRAPIVNIK: They used to, you’re right. But it’s much more funnier now, you know, much more entertaining.
GLENN DIESEN: Well, thanks a lot for your time.
STANISLAV KRAPIVNIK: Very much appreciated. Always a pleasure.
GLENN DIESEN: Always a pleasure. Bye.
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