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The Moral of the Story With JBP: There’s No Such Thing as a Dragon (Transcript)

Read the full transcript of Dr. Jordan B. Peterson’s psychological and cultural analysis of “There’s No Such Thing as a Dragon” by Jack Kent, drawing connections to ancient Egyptian mythology, the Exodus narrative, and the crucifixion of Christ. This episode was filmed on June 28th, 2025.

Introduction to Children’s Story Analysis

DR. JORDAN B. PETERSON: So recently, I recorded some analysis of children’s stories once again. I had done this years ago with Pinocchio and The Lion King. That was part and parcel of the lectures that I did at Harvard and at the University of Toronto.

More recently, I recorded an analysis of Snow White, the Grimm’s brother version, and also of Hansel and Gretel. I’m going to continue that today with a more recent book, a much more recent book called “There’s No Such Thing as a Dragon,” The Story and Pictures by Jack Kent.

I used to read this to my Maps of Meaning class often as the first lecture because it touches on themes that are very relevant to a narrative understanding of the world. A description of the structure through which we see the world is a story. And the motifs in stories represent cardinal elements of all of the environments that we encounter. And I’ll try to make that clear today in the discussion of “There’s No Such Thing as a Dragon.”

The Dragon as Archetypal Symbol

I want to show you a dragon that I have in my office here. This is a sculpture from Mexico, which I got several years ago. It’s a circle, basically, and it has the head of a bird, kind of a monstrous bird, and it has wings like a dragon or like a bird, and it has a snake wrapped around the bird’s neck, but it’s an analog of a dragon.

There’s a book that I found very useful in my analysis of such things called “An Instinct for Dragons” by a man named David E.