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JORDAN B. PETERSON: Hello, everyone. I’m pleased to have with me today Dr. Marian L. Tupy, who is the editor of, a senior fellow at the Center for Global Liberty and Prosperity and co-author of the Simon Project. He specializes in globalization and the study of global well-being, as well as the politics and economics of Europe and Southern Africa. His work has been published or featured in major print and non-print media outlets all throughout the English speaking world.

Dr. Tupy received his BA in International Relations and Classics from the University of the Witwatersrand in Johannesburg, South Africa, and his PhD in International Relations from the University of St. Andrews in Great Britain. He is the co-author of a recent book, Ten Global Trends That Every Smart Person Needs to Know and Many Other Trends You Will Find Interesting. It’s a beautiful book, and so that’s an accomplishment in and of itself. It’s also an extremely interesting book, wide-ranging, and necessary in my estimation, partly because most of what we consume in relationship to global occurrences, economic and otherwise, is negative. And that’s part of the reason that I wanted to talk to Dr. Tupy today, because his work is in the same vein as Bjorn Lomborg’s work and Matt Ridley’s work, among other people, Steven Pinker, putting forward a narrative of continued and rapid progress that seems at odds in terms of content and psychologically with virtually everything that seems to make up the major media trend story, zeitgeist.

So, welcome Dr. Tupy. Marian, it’s really good to see you. Thanks for agreeing to talk to me today.

MARIAN TUPY: I’m delighted to be with you and welcome back. It’s great to have you back in the fight, so to speak.

JORDAN B. PETERSON: Thank you. I was really struck to begin with by your introduction. You talked about why you and Ronald Bailey wrote this book, and so let’s start with that. What were your motivations? What did you want to accomplish with this book, and what do you think it does accomplish?

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