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Transcript of Angela Duckworth: Push Those Cell Phones Away

Read the full transcript of psychologist, and popular science author Angela Duckworth’s speech at Bates College Commencement address on May 25, 2025.

Listen to the audio version here:

The Great Phone Experiment

ANGELA DUCKWORTH: Good morning, Bateses. Oh, before I begin, President Jenkins, I’d like to ask you for a favor, if that’s okay. I don’t want to get distracted up here, so I wonder if you might hold onto my phone. Let me put it on silent. Is that okay? Okay, thank you. Oh, one more thing. Would you mind if I held your phone, too? I promise to give it back, I swear. Yeah, thank you. Very nice case.

Okay, graduates, I’d like your help, too. Families, friends, and even faculty up here and in the back, I want all of us to do an experiment together. We’re going to try something that’s never happened before on the quad. Probably something that isn’t happening at any other graduation ceremony in the world. I want all of you to do what President Jenkins and I did just now. So if you have a cell phone, please take it out. I think nearly all of you do, okay? And I want you to hand it to a neighbor. Doesn’t matter who, left or right. Doesn’t matter if you end up with two phones. But I don’t want anybody holding their own, okay? All right? You set? I’ve got President Jenkins covered. You handle your neighbor. And I really do mean this, parents, grandparents. Oh, and do make sure it’s on silent, by the way. That would be embarrassing for your neighbor.

Now, parting with your phone may be causing some anxiety, and I want to assure you that the withdrawal symptoms should abide presently.

The Most Consequential Decision You’ll Make

Graduates, as we celebrate your achievements, I want to talk about something that might seem trivial, but in fact has profound implications for your future success and happiness. Something as consequential as your major or where you land your first job. And that’s where you choose to keep your phone. Where you physically place your phone just might be one of the most consequential decisions you make. And unlike some decisions, the choice of where you keep your phone is one you get to make over and over again, every hour of every day for the indefinite future.

I’ve spent my career studying grit, goals, self-control, and this research has made one thing abundantly clear. And it may surprise you, because it definitely surprised me. Willpower is overrated. In study after study, psychologists like me have found that achieving what you want out of life has very little to do with forcing yourself to act in one way or another. In fact, if you follow around successful people as they go about their everyday lives, you discover that they rarely rely on inner fortitude to resist temptations in the heat of the moment. Instead, they avoid them altogether.

In other words, successful strivers are exquisitely aware of how the situation shapes their behavior, and they deliberately design their situations in ways that make wise choices easier. Which brings me back to your phone.

The Screen Time Reality

Your generation, Gen Z, is spending more than six hours a day on their phones. If you have a younger brother or sister, the odds are that they’re spending even more time on their screens. Teenagers in the United States are now up to about eight hours a day on screens. That’s 56 hours a week, a full half of their waking lives. If being on a phone were a paid job, we’d be getting overtime.

Now, each time you pick up your phone, you invite a cascade of notifications, messages, and images to hijack your attention. Each time you stare into a screen, you look away from what’s around you. And research suggests that very often you do so reflexively, mindlessly, automatically. In other words, when you pick up your phone, you may be doing so as instinctively as blinking or breathing.

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Lessons from High Performers

Ten years ago, when I was researching my book, Grit, I interviewed athletes, artists, CEOs, scientists. They were all at the top of their game. Now, the word grit may make it sound as if these world-class performers just force themselves to do things. But that’s not accurate. They love what they do. And because they love what they do, they create sanctuaries where they cannot be distracted from their craft.

I didn’t interview her for my book, but my mom is one of my very favorite artists. As a painter, she says, it’s nearly impossible to do your best work unless you have, as the writer Virginia Woolf once put it, a room of your own. My mom was in her late 80s when she marched down the hall of her senior living community and knocked on the door of the manager. Could I use the unoccupied apartment one floor below mine, she asked. Why, the manager wondered. Oh, I need a place to work, my mom explained. A room where I can get things messy and not worry about it. And where I won’t be interrupted. The manager’s answer, yes. At the age of 87, my mom got, for the first time in her life, an art studio where she could paint to her heart’s content. A room of her own. And that’s where she paints today.

The Portrait That Changed Everything

Very recently, my mom told me she painted my portrait. It was the largest work she’d done in many years. A canvas five feet tall and six feet wide. When at last she was done, I couldn’t wait to see it. And when I did, I couldn’t believe it. My mom had painted me standing in an art gallery with red, white, and black sculptures in the background as if I, too, were a work of art. A statue frozen in time. But you can’t see my face because I’m hunched forward and looking down.