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TRANSCRIPT: The Next Global Superpower Isn’t Who You Think – Ian Bremmer

This is the full transcript and summary of Ian Bremmer’s talk titled ‘The Next Global Superpower Isn’t Who You Think’ at TED Talk conference.

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TRANSCRIPT:

I have a big question: Who runs the world? It used to be an easy question to answer. If you’re over 45, like me, you grew up in a world that was dominated by two giants. The United States called the shots on one side of the wall, the Soviets set the rules on the other, and that was a bipolar world. It’s very simple.

If you’re under 45, you grew up when the Soviet Union had already collapsed. And that left the United States as the sole superpower, dominating global institutions and also exerting raw power. And that was a unipolar world.

And then about 15 years ago, things got a little more complicated. The United States increasingly didn’t want to be the world’s policeman, or the architect of global trade, or even the cheerleader for global values. Other countries were becoming more powerful, and they could increasingly ignore many of the rules they didn’t like, sometimes even setting new rules themselves.

What happened? Three things. Number one, Russia was not integrated into Western institutions. A former great power now in very serious decline, and they are angry about it. We can argue about whose fault that is, but we are where we are.

Number two, China was integrated into US-led institutions on the presumption that as they got wealthier and more powerful, they would become Americans. Turns out, they’re still Chinese. And the United States is not particularly comfortable with that.

Number three, tens of millions of citizens in the United States and other wealthy democracies felt left behind by globalization. This has been ignored for decades, but as a consequence they felt that their governments and their leaders were more illegitimate.

Now, if you look at all the headlines in the world today driving all of this geopolitical tension and conflict, over 90% of them are because of these three reasons. And that’s why today we live in a leaderless world. But as we know, that’s not going to be with us for long.

So what comes next? What kind of a world order might we expect over the next 10 years? Some of what I might say I think will surprise you, because we’re not going to have a bipolar or a unipolar or even a multipolar world. If we don’t have one or two superpowers, we don’t have a single global order.

No, instead we will have three different orders, a little overlapping, and the third will have immense importance for how we live, what we think, what we want, and what we’re prepared to do to get it.

But first things first, today we have a global security order. And as you see from the map, the United States and its allies are the most powerful players on it. The US is the only country in the world that can send its soldiers and its sailors and its military equipment to every corner of that world. No one else close.

China is growing in its military capabilities in Asia, though nowhere else. Lots of American allies in Asia are concerned about that, and as a consequence, they’re becoming more dependent on the United States for a security umbrella. With the Russian invasion of Ukraine, US allies in Europe are becoming more concerned and dependent on the United States and a US-led NATO.

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The Russian military, of course, has been a greater global concern, much less so today, especially as they’ve lost over 200,000 troops and all of that equipment, and with sanctions making it extremely hard for them to rebuild.

Now Russia and China and others have nuclear weapons, but thank God it is still suicide to use them, and as a consequence, our security order is a unipolar order and it is likely to remain so for the next decade.

Now at the same time that there’s a security order, there’s also a global economic order, and here power is shared. The United States is still a very robust global economy, but the US can’t use its dominant position militarily to tell other countries what to do economically. The United States and China are enormously economically interdependent, and so they can’t control each other.

You may be surprised to hear this, but today US-China trade relations are actually at their highest level in history. Now other countries in the world, a lot of them want access to US military muscle, but they also want access to the Chinese market, soon, by 2030, likely to be the largest in the world, and you can’t very well have a Cold War if the US and the Chinese are the only two that are prepared to fight it. Yes, yes.

So the European Union has the largest common market, and they set the rules, and if you want to do profitable business there, you listen to those rules. India is playing a greater role economically on the global stage, Japan still matters too, and over the next ten years there will be a rise and fall of the relative capacities of these economies, but the global economic order is and will remain a multipolar order.

Now between these two orders are tensions, because the United States will use its power in national security to try to bring more of the world’s economies towards it, and we already see this starting to happen in semiconductors, and in critical minerals, maybe soon in TikTok.

The Chinese are trying to use their dominant commercial position to align more of the world diplomatically, and Japan and Europe and India and everyone else will do their damnedest to ensure that neither of these two orders dominate the other, and they will mostly succeed.

The Digital Order

Now so far I have spoken with you about the two world orders we already see, but there’s a third that is coming soon that’s even more important, and that is the digital order.