Tucker Carlson Show: w/ YouTuber Tyler Oliveira (Transcript)

Weird, right?

TUCKER CARLSON: Well, great, actually. Yeah, it worked out. This is what they told us the internet was going to be before it became like all porn and bots — and people would find out the truth because you couldn’t mediate it because it was live on TV.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah, Elon Musk sort of put a name to that idea of citizen journalists for me at least. I’d never even heard the term. I didn’t even know what we were doing was journalism, so to speak, but I feel like that’s what it was and what it became.

The East Palestine Video and What Followed

TUCKER CARLSON: So when you got to East Palestine, what do you do?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: We just asked people what was going on, tried to gain access into some of these areas that were closed off, asking these federal agents what was going on. And just tried to sort of paint a picture for what the media sort of failed to present to the broader American audience.

TUCKER CARLSON: Love that.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah, it was interesting.

TUCKER CARLSON: The coolest thing you could do.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah.

TUCKER CARLSON: So you just see people standing on the side of the road and say, “Hey, can I talk to you?”

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah, “What’s going on here?”

TUCKER CARLSON: But you never got a degree in journalism from Columbia?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I don’t have a degree.

TUCKER CARLSON: So how did you know how to do that?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Because we were doing it for sillier stuff prior to this.

TUCKER CARLSON: We were just making fun of the absurd idea.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: So I’ll tell you how we got it. I was driving these vehicles that looked like Minecraft vehicles across America, and we would go to gas stations and always have these funny interviews with random people at gas stations. And we had this interview with a guy who was telling us about banging his cousin in Alabama. And I was like, what if we took the beauty of what that moment was and just brought it to relevant, important topics in day-to-day life? So we did that. We took this gas station interview concept and sort of brought it over to actually important topics in our everyday life. So here we are.

TUCKER CARLSON: You make the video on East Palestine, and if I saw it, it must have been big.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah, it took off, and I was like, what if we just keep doing more of this?

TUCKER CARLSON: Did it get a lot of views?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: It did, yeah. Like 3 or 4 million views.

TUCKER CARLSON: Wow. Yeah. At 22?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I think so, yeah.

TUCKER CARLSON: Amazing.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: But for us, it was a validation that this is something people can use and it’s informative and it fills in sort of where the mainstream media is not interested in.

TUCKER CARLSON: Well, it’s objectively validation of that. I mean, that’s exactly what it is.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yep.

TUCKER CARLSON: And it also says something good about the country that people want to know what’s happening outside their borders. So then you just pivoted right then and decided to do more news?

Covering Fringe Communities

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah, we did a variety of news topics to interesting cultural communities — hard to access communities, like the pedophile village in Florida. What? We went over there and started interviewing a bunch of pedophiles, asked them how they ended up there, to white supremacists in Arkansas, to black supremacists in Harlem, New York. So just a broad range of interesting people, places, and things from political to cultural to just wacky stuff.

TUCKER CARLSON: What drove you?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Drove me?

TUCKER CARLSON: Yeah. What was your motive?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Oh, just curiosity. I thought I was good at it, so let’s go for it.

TUCKER CARLSON: That’s the right motive right there.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah.

TUCKER CARLSON: So then you started doing — when I first became aware of you, you moved from the full outliers, like the pedophile community. I’d never even heard of that before. And white supremacists are also—

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Miracle Village, they called it.

TUCKER CARLSON: Miracle Village. It’s so dark. White supremacists in Arkansas, Black supremacists in Harlem. I’ve interviewed both those communities 30 years ago. So everyone knows that exists, but they’re really so far out on the fringes of American life. But then you start moving closer to the actual news, like what the rest of the news is talking about, and you start interviewing Somalis.

The Somalis in Minneapolis Video

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. So I think December of 2025, we put out a video on Somalis in Minneapolis.

TUCKER CARLSON: Yes.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Now, keep in mind, to the local news’s credit, they’ve reported on various forms of fraud for years over there.

TUCKER CARLSON: Yes.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: But there’s something about their inability to storytell and package those narratives that it just never took off.

TUCKER CARLSON: There’s a talent gap there.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yes. Yeah. And just a media misunderstanding, I think. But long story short, what does that mean? They just don’t know how to use social media. They’re illiterate. Maybe by design or incompetence, I’m not sure.

TUCKER CARLSON: But what do they get wrong?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I think they report accurately. In fact, many social media guys often cite their reports. I think they just can’t synthesize the information to the actual storytelling, to the packaging and how these platforms like YouTube work. You’re figuring it out though, I see.

TUCKER CARLSON: I have definitely not figured it out at all. But I think the ability to tell a story works at dinner. It works on cable television and it works on YouTube. It’s like all kind of the same thing. Can you synthesize?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Exactly.

TUCKER CARLSON: That’s exactly right. You just take the facts and you put it into an order that you think is accurate, which is truthful. You’re not misrepresenting it, but that makes sense. It’s got a narrative structure.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: An order of importance too, right?

TUCKER CARLSON: Exactly. Thank you.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: But yeah, we’ve covered tons of topics from all over the country and all over the world. But about, whatever, in December of 2025, we did a video on Somalis in Minneapolis. A lot of it was focused on more of a demographic shift, more so than fraud. Nick Shirley then puts out a video, I think a couple of weeks later, and it really bursts into the mainstream. He covers this daycare fraud, and this is like the biggest talking point in the GOP. I’m sure you saw, right?

TUCKER CARLSON: Oh yeah, I live here.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: They loved it. It was a perfect story, really. He found these, you know, these leering centers, all this stuff, this blatant retardation, if you will, of people from Somalia who can’t even spell the word “learning,” whatever. It becomes part of the mainstream conversation about these third-worlders absorbing welfare benefits, committing fraud en masse. And everyone hates these people, right?

Demographic Replacement and Ethnic Enclaves

TUCKER CARLSON: Wait, can I just ask you to back up? You said something so interesting parenthetically. You said, “I approached it as a demographic replacement question. They approached it as a fraud question.” Correct.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah.

TUCKER CARLSON: Tease that out a little bit. You saw it slightly differently, or you saw it in bigger terms than they did, I think.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. My focus was just, you take Minnesota, which is land of the Vikings, right? The Scandinavian people. And now it’s becoming—

TUCKER CARLSON: You’re speaking to a Carlson here.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Exactly right. Now it’s home to Somalis. And I saw the Minnesota Vikings, they put out what a thank you to our Somali community or something on Twitter the other day.

So for me, it was just an interesting case study of a state in the United States of America that has such generous welfare programs and is such a generous people that inevitably it attracts some of the most opportunistic, parasitic, if you will, population of people from a destabilized country in Africa that come here simply because of the benefits they’ll receive upon entering. And it became a hub for these people opportunistically taking advantage of such generous people.

TUCKER CARLSON: This is why you’ve become so big.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yes, thank you for saying that, because it is bigger than the Minnesota thing too, though, right?

TUCKER CARLSON: Well, Maine, which has similar demographics, overwhelmingly Northern European whites.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah.

TUCKER CARLSON: Who have no idea what an idyllic place they have, who hate themselves because they’ve been taught to hate themselves. And so to atone for sins they didn’t commit, import the most destructive parasitic populations they can find, and then sort of revel in the squalor because it’s a kind of self-abasement that turns them on. It’s sadomasochism.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. So white guilt, right?

TUCKER CARLSON: 100%. And there’s nothing more dangerous to everybody than white guilt, seemingly. It’s just interesting that you saw it that way.

Dearborn, Hamtramck, and the Pattern of Ethnic Enclaves

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah, that’s how I saw it. Because we’ve also done videos in Dearborn, Michigan. I feel like you see that every day now, Dearborn this, Dearborn that, about the sort of Muslim invasion. We did a video in Hamtramck, Michigan, which was a predominantly Polish working-class town, and it eventually elected a Muslim majority in the township council, and they voted to ban the gay flag, which for me was comedic because they basically invited these people in, they become a majority, they consolidate political power, and then vote to deny them the same rights they were afforded. So that is just the most comedic story.

TUCKER CARLSON: Well, or even more meta, it’s like white liberalism drew these people in and their first act is to ban white liberalism.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Exactly. Yeah. Once they achieve social authority.

TUCKER CARLSON: One religion supplants another.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Sure. Basically, we were looking for ethnic enclaves doing the same thing as Dearborn, Michigan or Hamtramck or Minneapolis. So I looked up Jewish ethnic enclaves on Google only to find Kiryas Joel.

TUCKER CARLSON: Let me ask you to pause right there. Thank you for explaining that. That’s fascinating.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah.

TUCKER CARLSON: So you’re basically interested in exploring the principle that you described coming out of that.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Exactly. It was a conversation about the principle.

TUCKER CARLSON: Wasn’t a conversation about one— you weren’t out to attack Jews or Muslims or Somalis or anyone else. You just want to say, this is what happens when a country’s decency is leveraged against it.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Exactly right. When generosity is exploited en masse and systematically, right? Systematic exploitation of generosity by design.

TUCKER CARLSON: So you still believe in principles. You must be a legacy American.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: In what respect?

TUCKER CARLSON: Well, you must be from here if you actually believe in a higher principle.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah, I’m born and raised here. My mom’s side goes way back. And yeah.

Discovering Kiryas Joel

TUCKER CARLSON: So may I ask, what kind of response did you get to the videos that you did on these ethnic enclaves in Michigan and Minnesota?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Great question. Praise. Praise and adoration.

TUCKER CARLSON: Praise. Of course.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Right. This is a great talking point. Thank you so much for bringing this up. So who liked them?

TUCKER CARLSON: Who praised you?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Republicans. Of course. Yeah, they love it. Democrats hated them. Liberal people hated them. Republicans, hoorah, keep going. Expose them all. Find even more. Expose all these groups. Right? So I was like, okay, sure, I will. Let’s do it. Let’s keep going.

TUCKER CARLSON: See? Okay. Yeah.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Let’s keep the fun going, Tucker.

TUCKER CARLSON: Because you believe in universally applicable principles.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Exactly.

TUCKER CARLSON: Not just tribal politics.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Exactly.

TUCKER CARLSON: The thing above tribal politics, which is principle, which is what the country is founded on.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Exactly right. Okay, now, so I was like, okay, we’ve covered plenty of these Islamic ethnic enclaves across America. It would be interesting to find a different group of people that do this that’s extremely religious and utilizes welfare in similar ways. So I found this village called Kiryas Joel.

Now, Kiryas Joel is an all-Jewish ethnic enclave in upstate New York. At one point, they were the poorest town in America with 40% living beneath the poverty line. They had the highest fertility rates in America, having 7 to 10+ kids. Extremely high, anomalously high rates of welfare dependency from Medicaid to SNAP, EBT to Section 8 housing vouchers. So this is definitionally a parasitic, insulated Jewish community I found in upstate New York.

So to me, that was obvious. I had an obligation almost to go there and film a video if I was filming videos in Dearborn or Hamtramck or Minneapolis.

TUCKER CARLSON: Did you know that that was not allowed?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I suspected we would unveil some hypocrisy, especially within the GOP and the larger Republican tent.

TUCKER CARLSON: Really?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: For sure.

TUCKER CARLSON: Come on. But you suspected it?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I suspected it. But to this degree was a little bit surprising.

TUCKER CARLSON: But at that point, it was not fully confirmed.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: No, not at all. And no one had tested it yet. And I wanted to test the line a little bit because you see so many of these guys on Twitter cosplaying as these hardliner, principle-first guys, America first, weed out all the fraud, weed out all the welfare exploitation. And then when it comes to specific groups, those principles disappear. So for me, I was like, I know this is going to happen to some extent. To what extent, I didn’t know. Let’s go there and show this.

The Backlash and the Double Standard

TUCKER CARLSON: Do you think— I’m sorry, I keep pulling you off track, but I just— this is a more amazing story than I realized. And I just want to say once again, I had no idea how big you were on YouTube. Well, the numbers show it. It’s not my opinion. They’re many times my numbers. So thanks for having me. I’m so impressed. I just love that you’re being rewarded for this.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: That’s nice.

TUCKER CARLSON: Do you think the fact that you didn’t go to college allows your mind to stay a little freer, more supple, less constrained by lies than if you had gone?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah, maybe I’m a little less conditioned than the average person in my generational cohort. Conditioned is the word. No, I think, to be fair to my generation, Gen Z, a lot of people agree with me. Gen Z is on the same boat here.

TUCKER CARLSON: Yeah, I believe so.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I think they’re far more principally consistent than a lot of our political representatives, and they’re all for it. I think, well, you know who’s not? A lot of these evangelical boomers seemingly.

TUCKER CARLSON: I’ve noticed.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Israel’s a hard line and anything remotely indicative of Israel or related to Israel in any capacity, including Hasidic Jews apparently, is off limits.

TUCKER CARLSON: Jesus doesn’t seem to be the hard line for them at all, which is a little surprising.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: No, they’ll tolerate disrespect.

TUCKER CARLSON: And I’m talking about the leaders. I’m not talking about the people at all, but some of the leaders, you could say whatever you want about.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: We’ve done videos on corrupt Christian megachurches. We’ve done videos on Pakistani Muslim rape gangs. What’s interesting to note is that most Christians watching the videos we did about corrupt Christian megachurches were highly apologetic for what they viewed to be as an aberration from true Christianity. They were denouncing what they view as a bastardization of Christianity.

TUCKER CARLSON: That’s how I feel.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Exactly. But for what we found after putting this Jewish video out, is that there’s almost like an immune system response — Hasidic, Orthodox, secular Jews have each other’s back — was what I took away from the backlash that followed that video.

Inside Kiryas Joel

TUCKER CARLSON: So it’s interesting. So tell us your— first of all, what did you find? So Kiryas Joel is in New York. It’s outside New York City, 40% below the poverty line, at least at one point, highest birth rate in the country.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I’ll tell you what I found.

TUCKER CARLSON: What’s it like? What is it?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: It is reminiscent of a European shtetl, a Jewish village you might have seen pre-World War II. That’s how they described themselves. What I saw was a ton of Hasidic Jews walking to synagogues, praying, and then walking in a hurry, I guess, to another synagogue to pray some more and study the Talmud some more. That’s basically all I saw. People praying. And people living off of the teat of the welfare system in many ways.

TUCKER CARLSON: Just to be clear, I’ve got no problem with people praying or following their religion. I support it. It’s the living off the taxpayer part that is too much.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. I mean, to give them credit, obviously there is some level of communal support. Sometimes they’ll rely on in-laws for some initial financial support, whatever. But largely by design, their entire lifestyle is designed to extract and exploit these welfare systems to the maximum degree. It is strategic. It is not happenstance. It is not coincidental. It is by design.

The Orthodox Jewish Community, Welfare, and the Antisemitism Shield

TUCKER CARLSON: This is the single biggest debate in Israel and has been for over 20 years, is that there’s a huge percentage of the population that lives off the Israeli welfare system, does not serve in the military, and does not add to the economy. And if you talk to any non-religious Jew in Israel, it’s like the third sentence out of their mouth is, “I am angry at these people for this.” So it’s not just here.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: For sure. And a lot of Israelis actually, they would contact me and say, “This is an amazing video. We have the same issue.” See, maybe that’s the one thing.

TUCKER CARLSON: Is that true?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. So that’s maybe the one thing that—

TUCKER CARLSON: I totally believe that.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah, it was funny. Israelis were super supportive of it. They’re like, this is great. They’re draining the tax system over here. And apparently there’s a demographic ticking time bomb taking place over there, to your point, right? Because they have similar levels of fertility rates and don’t contribute economically the same way.

TUCKER CARLSON: No, don’t serve in the military, which in Israel is a big deal since everybody, everybody, male and female, serves. And they’ve had an endless series of wars for 30 years. So you can imagine the bitterness.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah, the risk.

TUCKER CARLSON: Your kids are going off to risk their lives, but your neighbors aren’t.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: For sure.

TUCKER CARLSON: Yeah.

The American Taxpayer’s Resentment

TYLER OLIVEIRA: So speaking of resentment though, it’s the same logic and in the same vein that the average American taxpayer grinding their nuts off right now feels when they’re going working a 7 to 6, right? If you account for the commute to work and back from work, they see where their tax dollars are being spent. And they don’t feel as if the money they’re putting in, they ever get to see coming back out to them.

TUCKER CARLSON: No, of course not.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: And how many ethnic enclaves are they funding to live this totally insulated lifestyle that doesn’t benefit them? And that was really what the conversation sparked and became.

TUCKER CARLSON: What was it like as you walked through the community? How were you received?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Unwelcoming, I would say.

TUCKER CARLSON: Yeah.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Especially with the camera, of course. I think if I was there without the camera, not questioning anything, I would have been tolerated for sure.

TUCKER CARLSON: For those who haven’t seen it, what kind of questions did you ask?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: What do you do for work? How do you afford to have 7 to 10 kids?

TUCKER CARLSON: You asked that?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. Hey, what do you do for work? I study. I study Torah. Okay. How do you afford 7 to 10 kids? God. And I would be like, what about the American taxpayer? And they would say, that too. So I’m like, of course, that too.

TUCKER CARLSON: Was there any gratitude that you discerned? To the American taxpayer?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: For me asking these questions?

TUCKER CARLSON: No, they say, “God bless America.” That it was for God.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I think it was for God.

TUCKER CARLSON: But not for America, for them.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I mean, maybe there is some, sure.

TUCKER CARLSON: You didn’t hear it though.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I didn’t feel it, no.

Politicians, Voting Blocs, and the Welfare Gravy Train

TUCKER CARLSON: No. Wow. What about local politicians? They must know this, right?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Oh, for sure. They’re beholden to these people though. They’re beholden to the Jewish voting bloc that exists in these concentrated Jewish communities in New Jersey and New York. So we haven’t established the importance of the Jewish voting bloc in states like New Jersey and New York. Obviously, local politicians are aware of this. Even Donald Trump’s aware of this. He put out a tweet saying, “Thank you so much to Lakewood, New Jersey,” the Orthodox community in Lakewood, New Jersey. There’s some tweet he put out thanking them in 2024, and they’re one of the most powerful voting blocs because of their consistency.

They always show up and they always vote on behalf of whatever the rabbinical leadership tells them to. So if they say vote for this guy, they consistently show up on behalf of that candidate. There’s no partisan loyalty. They’ll shift from Democrats to Republicans, as long as the benefits outweigh one party over the other. So they’re the perfect voting bloc. No one wants to stop their gravy train for fear of losing their votes.

TUCKER CARLSON: So democracy has been literally subverted or hijacked here. Seemingly in exactly the same way it has been in Lewiston, Maine and Minneapolis, Minnesota by the Somalis.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. Seemingly an organized group, a small organized minority can disproportionately impact everything.

TUCKER CARLSON: Could you have these communities without welfare?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: No. Actually, you could not. The Jewish community would not, because they’re so dedicated to studying full-time, spending so much time praying, etc., etc. Although there are precedents for that being possible, which I always bring up— the Amish community. They’re self-sufficient, they’re fully reliant on their own sweat and toil. It can be done.

TUCKER CARLSON: So the Christian community pays for itself?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Exactly.

TUCKER CARLSON: Okay, but the others don’t?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Seemingly not.

The Amish Contrast

TUCKER CARLSON: So the Amish— this is a dumb question. I just assumed I knew the answer, but it sounds like you really do. The Amish are not on welfare. They’re not living—

TYLER OLIVEIRA: No, no, they are philosophically opposed to taking welfare. They do not want to take any welfare. They find it as shameful as most people probably should, right? Because it’s a safety net to reduce poverty and not a way of life, not a strategy for maintaining a lifestyle of having 7 to 10 kids when you can’t afford to otherwise, I think.

TUCKER CARLSON: Of course not. Right. Especially in a country that has no state religion, that isn’t allowed to support theocracy. I mean, speaking for myself, and I think I’m reflecting the Constitution, I absolutely think the Orthodox should have a right to any kind of religious practice they want as long as you’re not hurting anyone. And same with the Somali, same as the Muslims in Michigan, same as the Amish in Pennsylvania. But the idea that taxpayers would support someone else’s religion— yeah, it’s not allowed.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: It’s even funnier for me because for some of these groups there is outward hostility, right? You take some of these, I would argue, these Orthodox Jewish groups, there is in fact hostility. When we were there asking people questions, asking them what they do for a living, how they get their money, how they afford their little society, there is hostility. So for me as a taxpayer, it’s like, we’re going to take your money. If you question it, you’re antisemitic and we hate you.

The ADL, Antisemitism, and Double Standards

TUCKER CARLSON: What was antisemitic about it?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: The ADL said it harkened back to antisemitic stereotypes of them being a drain on society or something like that, when it’s all statistically corroborated. I’m not pulling these out of my ass. These are welfare stats I was quoting. And then I would go to the direct source asking these people, what do you do for a living? How many kids do you have? How do you afford your kids? Are you on welfare? How is that antisemitic? And why do they get their own brand of, their own proper nounage of racism? That never made sense to me.

TUCKER CARLSON: I agree.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: It’s odd, right?

TUCKER CARLSON: It is odd.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: It’s weird. Yeah.

TUCKER CARLSON: It is odd. I haven’t thought too much about that, but I think you make a fair point. How is bigotry against one group different from bigotry against any group? And of course, if you believe in absolute standards, it’s not. It’s all the same. It’s all varieties of the same thing. But if you believe that only one group should be immune from criticism, then you’re not against racism. You’re an advocate of racism. You’re arguing a kind of supremacy.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. Jewish supremacy.

TUCKER CARLSON: Yeah. Or any kind. I mean, any kind. If you can attack anyone but White Episcopalian men— everyone else is fair game except me.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: What other group can you not discuss though? Right?

TUCKER CARLSON: I don’t know.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: You can disrespect Christianity without any flack. You can disrespect Islam legally. They might kill you for it. And seemingly with Jews, or at least some of these groups of Jews, the legal fare may begin. You might get deplatformed or pulled off some sites.

Public Reception and the Holocaust Guilt Shield

TUCKER CARLSON: So what happened? So you do this video in New York at Kiryas Joel. What kind of reception does it get?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: The Americans are happy. “Thank you for calling this out.” The locals who live in nearby communities, “Thank God someone has finally come out and spoken out about this.”

TUCKER CARLSON: Oh, the locals have strong feelings about it.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Oh, they’re perpetually grateful to me because no one has ever touched this, because seemingly it’s radioactive. If you have any political ambitions, they die overnight if you talk about this. This is a strong voting bloc. And on top of that, they’re leveraging the generational guilt of the Holocaust. You’re antisemitic if you oppose any of what they’re doing. So I was a hero to the local communities that live nearby.

TUCKER CARLSON: Just to be clear, the Holocaust was not committed by Americans. We were actually the people who ended it.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I think you can’t make this up, Tucker.

TUCKER CARLSON: Right. No, but I just want— because history does get so distorted in real time. America did not commit the Holocaust.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. What does that have to do with me?

TUCKER CARLSON: We lost many, many, many tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of Americans fighting against it. So actually, America is the hero in that story. So I don’t know why any American would feel guilt about something that we gave the lives of our ancestors to stop. So that’s just my—

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I think that’s a great point.

TUCKER CARLSON: It is a weird thing.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: It’s a defense. It’s a mechanism that’s almost reflexive for a lot of these people to throw out the antisemitism, and then the conversation’s buried. So it’s a shield to dissuade further argumentation as to why I disagree with, let’s say, a Jewish group, their actions. And it’s abused, obviously, and its weight seems to no longer exist.

TUCKER CARLSON: I’d heard that it was abused. Yeah, I’d heard that.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I mean, I think so. Right?

TUCKER CARLSON: Yes. Yeah. Someone had told me that.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: But for me, to clarify, I’m an equal opportunity offender, so to speak, in that—

TUCKER CARLSON: I think you’ve demonstrated that. Yeah.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I’ll talk to any of these groups of people and have plenty of critical questions for all of them, not just Jewish people. I didn’t wake up one day and say, let’s go piss off some Jews. Right. It’s just this is a perfect example of an ethnic enclave that exploits the welfare system. And let’s go check it out. Just like I would a Muslim group or a Christian group.

TUCKER CARLSON: Just as you did.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Exactly. Exactly.

Republican Backlash

TUCKER CARLSON: Yeah. So, okay, so you get big numbers. The audience likes it. The neighbors are grateful for it. A bunch of Israelis say, hey, we love this because we’ve lived it.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. Yeah.

TUCKER CARLSON: Yeah. Where does the criticism come from?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Republican demagoguery. I think some politicians, Republican politicians, the Republican Party at large is opposed to it.

TUCKER CARLSON: Really?

The Kiryas Joel Video: Backlash and Consequences

TYLER OLIVEIRA: The left can get behind it. A lot of the right can get behind it. But also a lot of the right is disgusted by it. How dare he? He engaged in antisemitism. The ADL says it harkens back to age-old antisemitic tropes. Yeah, I don’t even know what to say. For me, it’s just laughable.

TUCKER CARLSON: Did any of the people who praised your Somali exposés, did they attack this?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yes.

TUCKER CARLSON: Same people?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yes. Yeah, I would give names, but their names are probably too irrelevant to invoke here at this table, but certainly hypocrisy.

TUCKER CARLSON: You know of people who praised one video exposing parasitic behavior by an ethnic enclave, but attacked the same thing when it was another enclave.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: For sure. For sure.

TUCKER CARLSON: Okay. Well, that’s just—

TYLER OLIVEIRA: And you would think even secular Jewish communities would be like, hey, thanks for pointing this out. We appreciate that. Which some of them did, of course. But largely there is a tribal mentality of why are you attacking these poor innocent Jews who just want to mind their own business? That’s great. Go mind your own business. Not on my dime, Tucker. I pay taxes.

TUCKER CARLSON: Oh, I agree.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Quit taking money out of my wallet. If you want to go live in the woods, do it. Work hard enough to buy your own property and go do it. I shouldn’t have to subsidize your lifestyle. It’s that simple.

TUCKER CARLSON: I totally agree.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Beyond that though, there’s no beef, there’s no frustration, there’s no hatred. It’s just a matter of fact.

TUCKER CARLSON: I think any honest person sees exactly the point you’re making and it’s pretty hard to disagree with it. Yeah.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Any serious person.

TUCKER CARLSON: Well, yeah. I mean, if you think this is okay, is it okay to have, I don’t know, some Christian Nazi group or whatever?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. And to that point, right? So there’s that all-white community that’s trying to start up in the Arkansas, the Ozarks in Arkansas. They’re going to get sued into oblivion just for existing, just for violating the Fair Housing Act. Right. For discriminating against non-whites. For those who don’t know, it’s a group in the Ozarks that’s trying to build an all-white town. Yeah, that’s illegal with tax money. No, self-funded. So the beauty of Kiryas Joel to me was we’re essentially going to de facto violate the Fair Housing Act, de facto segregate ourselves from secular society. With secular taxpayer dollars. And if you don’t like it, you’re anti-Semitic. F* you. That was my takeaway.

TUCKER CARLSON: That’s what’s happening.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: And white people can’t do it.

TUCKER CARLSON: And yeah, I mean, I think Blacks tried to do it in downtown Philadelphia in the mid-’80s and they got firebombed by the mayor. Yeah, yeah. They literally got blown up with a bomb. Not that, you know, look, whatever. I’ve never been for racial separatism, but I also believe in freedom of association and do whatever you want.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Conflict, right? I think actually you should be able to do that. I don’t have— I don’t really think— —be able to do that. That’s fine. Why would you not want to live next to people that look like you, worship the same God, pray like you, raise their children the same way? Yeah, but why can they only do it? That’s all.

Sponsor Pulls Out: The Radioactive Topic

TYLER OLIVEIRA: So immediately, obviously, the sponsor pulled out of our video. We don’t want to touch that. So I can talk about Muslims, Christians, pimps, prostitutes, any group you can imagine. But this was the no-no, Tucker.

TUCKER CARLSON: This was the radioactive topic. But you had an advertiser in the video.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Typically, they do not ask me for the topic of the video.

TUCKER CARLSON: For this video, I’ve never been asked exactly.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I generally have creative flexibility to place these sponsorships I get on whatever video I please. But for this one, I put out a tweet saying, “Have you ever heard of Kiryas Joel?” And I broke down some of the statistics regarding their welfare use. And I’m not going to name the company, but one of the correspondents on behalf of that company saw it and wanted to clarify that it would not be about the Orthodox Jews. And then when I said, yeah, it is, they pulled out. So obviously they have the right to spend their money how they please. It’s just funny. And it goes to show seemingly which groups you cannot talk about.

TUCKER CARLSON: Well, I think that’s pretty clear at this point. I have a lot of thoughts about that. The main one is I think it’s counterproductive. Obviously, it’s not good for anyone in the end. But I also think it’s a violation of the core idea of America, which is—

TYLER OLIVEIRA: And it leads to resentment, I think, big time for a lot of people. Big time. And it sort of proves their points right in the sense of, you have special privileges. No, I don’t. You can’t talk about us. Shut up. Okay, so you do have special privileges.

TUCKER CARLSON: Well, I agree.

Lakewood, New Jersey: The Next Investigation

TYLER OLIVEIRA: So after that video, so many residents from New Jersey reached out to me and said, “Hey, we have the same thing going on here in Lakewood, New Jersey. And surrounding towns. Please come here and take a look.”

So Lakewood, I think, is the most populous Jewish town besides, what, Brooklyn, New York, in the United States. A massive Orthodox Jewish community. And many of the towns have been turned over, so to speak. Non-Jewish towns have become predominantly Jewish towns in the last two decades, from my understanding, in the early 2000s especially. And it has been perpetrated through pretty aggressive methods, so to speak.

Really? Yeah. So we’re talking about the consolidation of political dominance from the township board to the planning board to the zoning board to the school board. And the heritage residents in these areas, their argument is they’ve made it so uncomfortable for us that we’ve either left if we’ve had the means to leave financially. And those who are left behind send their kids to a dismantled, diluted, and pillaged public school system that’s been destroyed inadvertently by the presence of these Orthodox Jews.

TUCKER CARLSON: Well, how is it destroyed this school system?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: In New Jersey, the state funding formula for schools is a derivative of public school attendance. Okay. So if I had 5,000 public school attendees, that would be multiplied by X to determine the amount of money my school gets. So what happens is when Orthodox Jewish communities come in, they overwhelm these school districts with Jewish students who go to yeshivas, right? They do not attend the public school system. Yet simultaneously, those schools have an obligation to fund private transportation, special education, for these private schools.

So what ends up happening is a large piece of the pie ends up getting allocated towards these private schools in the form of gender-segregated busing and exorbitant costs for special education within the Jewish community.

TUCKER CARLSON: Wait, the state pays for gender segregation? Gender-segregated busing?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. The state pays for that? Correct. So that’s state-funded.

TUCKER CARLSON: You can’t even get states to have gender-segregated bathrooms, but they’re paying for gender-segregated busing? Sure.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Because they argue it’s a violation of their freedom to religiously express themselves. And yeah, so there’s gender-segregated busing at play.

TUCKER CARLSON: What about Title IX? There’s no federal law. Well, that’s amazing.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Sure. Yeah. Someone argued it’s a violation of the Establishment Clause.

TUCKER CARLSON: By the way, just in point of fact, I’m okay with gender segregation. I don’t have a problem with it at all. At all. In fact, I think it’s good in some ways. But yeah, I just didn’t know that the government could pay for it because I thought the official position of the government at every level was gender segregation is always bad, including in the john. Yeah, but no, it’s okay when I guess the yeshivas do it.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Sure. Because they’re a religious organization. Okay. Which, you know, different conversation, but religious freedoms in this country, I think, have gone too far or have been weaponized by bad actors.

TUCKER CARLSON: Yeah. I mean, there seems to be less religious freedom for some people, but a lot more for others.

The East Ramapo Blueprint

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. And this is not the only instance of this exact same behavior. The blueprint was made in East Ramapo in Monsey, New York, not too far away. Basically, Orthodox Jews came into this community of mostly Black and brown working-class poor people, bought a bunch of real estate, established their presence, voted themselves into positions of power in the school board, the zoning board, the planning board, the city council.

They voted to defund afterschool activities for the kids in the public schools. To increase the amount of funding for these yeshivas, and then they would consolidate the public schools that existed, as the funding basically went down and the public student enrollment went down as people left. They would consolidate them— consolidate them, meaning they would close down some of the public schools and they would then sell them off for a discounted price to these yeshivas. So the takeaway from nearby towns—

TUCKER CARLSON: Wait, and so they actually took over the physical plant of the public, the buildings, they bought the schools at discounted rates.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. Below market rates, arguably. Damn, it’s brutal, right? So the lesson for nearby towns was we don’t really have any upside for these people to move in if, A, the state funding formula is designed in such a way that the quality of our kids and their public education will go down. And they will elect themselves into political power and basically be aggressive and unreasonable neighbors to live by. So yeah. That’s an amazing story. Yeah, it’s interesting.

TUCKER CARLSON: So you get calls from people saying that this is going on, what you covered in New York is happening at even bigger scale.

Arriving in Lakewood: Tyler Becomes the Boogeyman

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Not a call, just widespread social media feedback of like, “Hey, what you saw here. There’s tons of it and more here in Lakewood. Come down and visit.” So what’s Lakewood like? Lakewood is— some would describe it as Little Jerusalem, Israel 2.0. I’ve never been to Israel. The climate’s fundamentally different. Obviously, that’s a questionable comparison, but New Jersey is the same size as Israel, weirdly, funnily enough.

TUCKER CARLSON: But I bet you the landscape in Israel is more charming.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Probably so, right? Yeah, it’s the Holy Land, right? Yeah. I mean, it’s New Jersey, first off. It’s in Ocean County. The climate’s much different, but it is densely populated with, I think, two-thirds of the population is Orthodox Jews. The driving’s terrible, and they run the show down there. And you went. I went. I went to Lakewood. I went to Monsey, New York. I went to the nearby town of Jackson, Jackson Township. Where else did we go? We went all over.

TUCKER CARLSON: What kind of experience did you have?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Oh, I was the boogeyman. A lot of these people had seen the video in Kiryas Joel and they were afraid for me to come down to Lakewood, New Jersey. There were group chats where they would disseminate Yiddish posters basically saying, “Do not talk to anyone with a camera. Do not let anyone in our synagogues. Play Disney music so he gets a copyright claim on his videos.” I was the devil after that video and Kiryas Joel came out in other Orthodox Jewish communities because I also put out a tweet saying, “I’m going to come down. Let me know if you have any tips. I’m coming,” basically. Wow.

TUCKER CARLSON: So what happened when you got there?

Confrontations, Shomrim, and Community Reactions

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Did anyone talk to you? Of course. Yeah. Despite them being told not to talk to me, a lot of Jewish people did come up to me. And their main point was the law is written in such a way that we deserve to receive these welfare benefits. We qualify legally, and therefore it’s okay and good. And if you have a problem with that, go move to a different country.

My position was — go move to a different country. Sure. I mean, obviously not all of them thought that way. There were a few friendly encounters, but mostly it was pretty confrontational, unwelcoming. They were frustrated that I was there.

TUCKER CARLSON: I can take it, therefore I’m justified in taking it.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. So beyond the ethics of whether or not it was a good or bad thing to do, their justification was, if the law is written in such a way, we are justified in doing it. The law was somehow supreme over what I would argue to be morals or ethics, that in my opinion, this is a bad thing to exploit or take advantage of if that’s what you’re doing.

But for them, it’s not coincidental. It’s by design. It’s systemic exploitation of a system they’re fully aware of, all of its loopholes. They understand the law in such a way that allows them to exploit it in every degree.

TUCKER CARLSON: I mean, I think what you’re seeing is a clash of worldviews. I think so. So I understand both, by the way. I understand both. Yeah. But one is a legalistic worldview. This is the law and we’re within the bounds of the law, which is, I think, totally defensible. And the other is, well, there’s a higher law having to do with your ethics. Honor, shame, decency.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yes.

Law Versus Ethics: A Biblical Parallel

TUCKER CARLSON: And you see this repeatedly in the New Testament when Jesus heals on the Sabbath. Yeah. There’s a — well, they’re all famous scenes, but there’s a particularly memorable scene where he heals a guy who’s been crippled for 38 years. At the Pool of Bethesda, and the guy gets up and picks up his mat and starts walking, and the Pharisees are just on him. The guy hasn’t walked in 38 years. No, like, you’re holding your mat on the Sabbath, it’s against the law. Sure. And Jesus is like, no, you’re missing the point. Yeah, he can walk after 38 years. Like, there’s a higher calling here. Sure. And so I’m not attacking anybody, I’m just saying, like, I think you’re kind of seeing that law versus ethics, morality.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I think that’s right. My opinion, the way I view what welfare was designed for, which was to help indigents, poverty, single mom with some kids they can’t afford to be forgotten.

TUCKER CARLSON: Or even more broadly, there are things that we’re allowed to do that we don’t do because we restrain ourselves. I agree. I can scream the f*-word at a grandmother. There’s no law against it, but I don’t because that’s disgusting, right? I think so. You could probably get on welfare right now.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Oh, I’m sure a lot of people could and don’t due to this concept of shame, which is seemingly not universal. Right? Yes. We let all of these groups of people from all over the world, including Jewish people, right? Including Sub-Saharan Africans, whoever it may be, into the United States because apparently we have this obligation of being a melting pot, whatever that means, however new that concept is.

And we’re surprised when we learn that we have different worldviews, different values, different gods, different interpretations of reality that guide our actions. Thus the divide, because the heritage residents in a city like Lakewood are saying, yeah, we know you can legally qualify, but we’re tired of paying for your shit. Please stop. And they’re saying, the law says I can, therefore I will. Antisemitism. If you don’t like it, leave.

TUCKER CARLSON: Therefore leave. You leave your country.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yes. Despite their whole lifestyle being contingent on being subsidized by the welfare that is paid for by secular tax dollars is my position. So you can’t be mad at the person that funds your entire way of life. I think that’s disingenuous and that’s a little ungrateful.

TUCKER CARLSON: It’s the definition of it. Yeah. Do local politicians, do they weigh in on this?

Political Complicity and the Voting Bloc

TYLER OLIVEIRA: They didn’t weigh in on it directly when I put my video out, but all local politicians caved to these guys. The voting block is too immensely valuable for anyone to shut this down, to cap the amount of benefits that they receive to 2 kids or 3 kids. No one wants to take away their gravy train because they want the votes. So the votes in exchange for them to be able to live the life however they want to please, to teach their kids however they want, to exhaust the welfare system however they please. And to not prosecute seemingly any wrongdoers. So yeah.

TUCKER CARLSON: So this video comes out. Did you have any, I should ask, did you have any hostile exchanges?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Did you call them? Yeah, for sure. I mean, I want to emphasize that I had no fear of being physically harmed in these communities. I got to throw a bone their way. Unlike Minneapolis, I did fear the Somali communities attacking me or shooting me. Oh, for sure. That’s a real fear. Showing up to Kiryas Joel or Lakewood, that’s not a real fear. There’s no fear of physical harm, in my opinion. I walk without security there. That’s not a real concern.

TUCKER CARLSON: Whereas you felt threatened in the Somali neighborhood.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Sure. Yeah. Or some of these crime-ridden, predominantly Black cities in, let’s say, Jackson, Mississippi, or Kensington, Philadelphia. I might fear I might get shot. That’s not a concern here.

So I’m not physically fearful, but we were intimidated by the local police and most interestingly, their own internal police. They have this thing called Shomrim. It’s a volunteer community patrol, but their de facto function is law enforcement within the community. So we had this Shomrim volunteer police equivalent basically show up to us and say, “I’m going to let everyone know that they don’t have to answer your questions and we’re going to follow you.”

So keep in mind that these people drive cars with red and blue lights. They look like undercover police vehicles. How is that legal? I don’t think it is, Tucker, but they do it. I’m not a lawyer, of course, but they’re blasting through red lights with what appear to be undercover police cars. And this is a volunteer civilian patrol squad.

Now, keep in mind, they receive some element of federal funds, township funds. So my tax dollars still somehow end up funding Shomrim, a volunteer police squad in New Jersey. How is that even possible? The religious police.

TUCKER CARLSON: Exactly. Essentially like in Saudi Arabia or Iran.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: So imagine if a Muslim group did that.

TUCKER CARLSON: I’d be opposed. I’d be outraged from me too.

Shomrim’s Conduct and the Crown Heights Riots

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Sure. Yeah. And technically they’re a volunteer civilian patrol squad, but they function as an intimidating force to stop you from doing things, to sort of enforce the law. And oftentimes they’ve been accused of breaching what they can actually do legally, whether it be like, I think they beat some gay Black guy to blindness once in Crown Heights. There have been several instances of people basically saying, “Yo, they’re not cops. Why are they acting like cops?”

TUCKER CARLSON: They ran over a kid in Crown Heights in the ’80s and caused one of the biggest riots in New York.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Oh, is this the one? The Crown Heights riots. Yeah. Where Hatzolah, their EMS, their volunteer EMS, didn’t take the — I think that’s this. They didn’t take the kid, but they took the Jewish guy, right? That’s correct. And the kid died? That’s correct.

TUCKER CARLSON: Well, that was the claim. I mean, I wasn’t there. That was the claim.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: And no, I wasn’t. I wasn’t there either.

TUCKER CARLSON: It’s New York. And you never know. And everyone lies about everything. Ethnic conflict is incredibly hard to decipher because as soon as it gets tribal, everyone lies on behalf of the tribe, whatever the tribe. It’s not just the Orthodox, it’s the Black people. Any tribe does this. So I don’t really know what happened, of course. Yeah, I don’t know. That was certainly the account that history has recorded.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: And why wouldn’t they have an in-group preferential bias? Right? Well, they do. Any person does, obviously.

TUCKER CARLSON: Whites don’t.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: But with the exception of post-George Floyd, I’m pretty sure they ran a study where whites were less inclined to shoot a Black guy. Of course. Much less. Obviously. Right. Your whole life is going to get torn to shreds.

TUCKER CARLSON: Right. And whites have just had it beaten out of them. And even in a country that fought the Nazis, everyone somehow feels responsible for the Nazis. But anyway, yeah. And there may be other reasons. The bottom line is you’re right.

Harassment, Intimidation, and Police Pressure

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yes, we had rabbis telling us we couldn’t be in the parking lot for the Kosher West supermarket. Get out of here. People whispering in each other’s ears, don’t talk to him. So there’s seemingly this upper management rabbinical class that’s telling the plebs to not talk to this guy, he’s trouble.

So there would be a lot of people excited to come up to me actually and tell a joke. Yeah, I got a funny joke for you. And I was like, all right, great, we’ll show some positives. Guy comes — or don’t talk to him. He says, “Do you know how much money we make?” That was his new response. I’m like, come on, man, just show your humanity. Talk to me. I’m here to talk. I’m not a scary guy. We’re not rolling with 10 security guards. It’s me and like a cameraman or two in the distance. I’m walking alone for the most part. And I have a group of 10 to 20 of these Orthodox Jews arguing with me as to how they’re entitled to welfare, how it was seemingly promised to them.

Oh, man. But yeah, so they had their own internal police force. The cops themselves were pulling me over without probable cause. I would say, “Hey, officer, I know you’re doing your job. Why am I being pulled over?” They would say, “You’re a suspicious person.” I would say, “What’s suspicious about me?” “You were filming.” Okay, we were filming on the sidewalk. “Give me your ID.” They can’t articulate probable cause. We suspect that one of the high-ranking local officials called the police and told them to give us a hard time. That’s speculative. I don’t know.

TUCKER CARLSON: What country is this again?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: The United States of America. Oh, America. Okay. Yeah. It’s easy to forget though, right? Yeah. So yeah, it was hostile. It was unwelcoming. They thought I was there to do a hit piece. I was there to talk to them.

TUCKER CARLSON: You’re allowed to do a hit piece if you want in your own country.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: For sure. Yeah. And I am allowed to do that. And part of my position was, first of all, it wasn’t a hit piece. It was fair, in my opinion. But B, I don’t have to show up to show the positive sides of whatever community. That’s for Joe Schmo to do. I’m here to jump into the heart of darkness and ask the hard questions. And if people get pissed off, then so be it.

TUCKER CARLSON: It’s not your problem.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: That’s not my prerogative. I want to do the fun, hard stuff, which is asking the questions that may piss off a few people.

Republican Reactions and the Double Standard Debate

TUCKER CARLSON: So did you get the same picture you got in Kiryas Joel, that this is a community supported by welfare?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: The economics are a little bit different. They’re a little more well-off financially, but basically at any given time you can expect half of the population that’s 16 and up to be unemployed. Half? Half. So keep in mind though, Tucker, that in a place like Kiryas Joel, I think the median age is less than 16 years old. So what that really means is half the population is children. And half of the adult population is unemployed and not seeking employment, whether it be religious study, child rearing for the women. They have no intention of getting a job and financially contributing. So yeah.

TUCKER CARLSON: So how did that video do?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Oh, that one went nuclear. Republicans were pissed. They were. Good faith Republicans, in my opinion, drew comparisons to the Somali situation and said, “What’s the difference between the Jews here using the welfare in systematically exploitative ways and the Somalis? What’s the difference?” Basically bad faith Republicans, hypocritical Republicans were saying they’re using the system as intended. They don’t cause any violent crime. Leave them alone, essentially. You’re not allowed to talk about —

TUCKER CARLSON: Why don’t they leave us alone, right?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: As a taxpayer. Yeah, go fund it yourself and no one would have an issue. And that’s really the correct — support it.

TUCKER CARLSON: Sure. I like eccentric, self-sufficient religious communities. I don’t want to bother any one of them.

Deplatforming and the Aftermath

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Sure. But part of the secondary argument is their intrusion into the community— and the words I used were invasion— has led to the inadvertent destruction of the public school system for the secular or goyim population, the non-Jewish population in these towns. Basically, as more Jews move in, it is unavoidable that your public school quality will go to shit. Your kids will have a lesser quality of education. So it’s either get out now while you can, sell your house to the Orthodox Jews moving in, or be the last one holding the bag as your town goes to shit. Man, that’s upsetting. Kind of, right?

TUCKER CARLSON: So this video goes bonkers on the internet.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. So within, I think, less than 24 hours, my Patreon is deleted mysteriously.

TUCKER CARLSON: What’s Patreon?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Patreon is a sort of a crowdfunding website that allows you to directly raise money from your viewers or fans or whatever, where you can say, hey, you can get access to these videos for $5 a month. So a large portion of our independence was from this website where we had people subscribe to our Patreon. It’s just a website that allows you to collect money on a subscription or routine basis. Less than 24 hours after releasing this video, my Patreon is deleted. Gone without warning. Why? They cited some BS. The way the terms of service is written is in such a manner that they can take you down.

TUCKER CARLSON: But that’s your business.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: That’s my business, right? Obviously it’s their business. It is what it is. I was naive.

TUCKER CARLSON: But this is the engine of your business, right?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. A large part of how we’re funded. I mean, it’s really just a middleman that allows you to collect money. Was it a mistake? No, absolutely not. They did not reinstate it. I’ve not reinstated since.

TUCKER CARLSON: Did they ever explain?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: No. They cited, I think it was for bullying or something like that.

TUCKER CARLSON: Bullying?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. And I think they might have selected a video that they could easily argue was the case in their eyes, in such a way that their terms of service is written. But no, we were deplatformed basically overnight from Patreon.

TUCKER CARLSON: But you’d done controversial videos, or videos that could be seen as controversial before, correct?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: We’ve done videos that could easily be seen— if that is your parameter for hate or bullying, then we’ve bullied everyone. Give me an example. We’re the biggest bullies. We’ve critiqued corrupt mega pastors like Benny Hinn. I ran up on the guy’s stage and said he’s a snake oil salesman. I got tackled. We’ve dissected that.

TUCKER CARLSON: Benny Hinn, he was a friend of Paula White’s, I think. Okay, Paula White, the— yeah, he’s a Christian Zionist in the administration. Yeah. Wow. You didn’t get pulled off? No. So you actually kind of hassled Benny Hinn, like, full-blown?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah, we interrupted his service. I jumped on stage.

TUCKER CARLSON: Did you do anything like that in a synagogue in Lakewood? Or— curious.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: We just walked in the synagogues and talked.

TUCKER CARLSON: You didn’t interrupt the cantor or anything?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: No, I didn’t do any dramatic—

TUCKER CARLSON: So you’re way tougher on the Christian preacher than you were on the Orthodox?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. If you think of it that way. Not by design, necessarily, but to be fair, absolutely. Nothing happened.

TUCKER CARLSON: No problem. No problem. What else? What other kind of videos might have been read as bullying?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: If I’m a bully, then we’ve bullied pedophiles. Pat myself on the back for that one. It’s not so much bullying. We’ve just critiqued and asked critical questions to every group. Never Muslims, Christians, pimps, prostitutes, criminal gangsters, murderers, whoever, Tucker. Everyone.

TUCKER CARLSON: And did Patreon ever—

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Black supremacists, white supremacists. No, no issue on Patreon.

Free Speech, Censorship, and the New Untouchables

TUCKER CARLSON: What’s interesting is it used to be, not that long ago, back in George Floyd times, that George Floyd—

TYLER OLIVEIRA: We had a video on George Floyd.

TUCKER CARLSON: Oh, did you literally?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah.

TUCKER CARLSON: But there was a period where you couldn’t say anything about Black Lives Matter, for example. Yeah. Do you remember that?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I grew up in those times.

TUCKER CARLSON: Yes. So that’s gone apparently. It doesn’t matter. I guess say whatever you want. Yeah, this is the new BLM.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: This is the new meta. Yeah. The new untouchable group is seemingly— it seems to be Jews at large, unrelated to how they feel about Israel and what’s going on in the Middle East. And just that’s an untouchable group. Are you familiar with the proposed antisemitism protection laws in Florida? I’m not a lawyer. I don’t have an encyclopedic breakdown of what it is, but basically laws that are designed in such a manner that if you criticize basically exactly what I found in Curious Joel, that that would be criminal.

TUCKER CARLSON: Criminal.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I think so. That if you accuse a Jewish person of having dual loyalty or them causing problems in the Middle East or whatever it is, there’s like 12 different bullet points. That’s amend your ability to freely discuss what’s going on in the Middle East or here in the United States of America. Which is funny to me because there are in fact people who do have dual loyalty.

TUCKER CARLSON: We should have a revolution over that. I mean, you’re not allowed to tell Americans what they have to believe, period.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I think so.

TUCKER CARLSON: And if you back up your demand with guns, using our government to prevent us from saying what we think is true, then that’s grounds for— I would agree. But who’s going to do a revolution? We had a revolution over something smaller than that.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah, but who’s going to go out with guns and fight back at this point? You have the surveillance state. You’re going to get arrested immediately. I guess his revolution really—

TUCKER CARLSON: If they can make people take the vax, then probably they can make them do it.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: We failed the compliance. No, you’re right.

TUCKER CARLSON: You’re right. No, it’s right. It’s just that you would think that people would hold on to their core freedom, which is the right to say what you think is true, period.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: You would think a lot of things, Tucker.

TUCKER CARLSON: No, I know. So Patreon, that’s crazy. So you lost an advertiser overnight?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah.

Building Independence: A DIY Response to Deplatforming

TYLER OLIVEIRA: And that money, the amount of money that was allocated for me to receive, I think on a monthly basis, just disappeared, refunded to my supporters.

TUCKER CARLSON: Seriously?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. But luckily we’re big enough to where we took it like a champ. It is what it is. F* them, basically. Yeah. We made our own website. We fully host that. And then I got banned from the website servers not once, but twice.

TUCKER CARLSON: What?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. I couldn’t host my website for— what was it? Hate speech or something along those lines.

TUCKER CARLSON: Seriously? Seriously? Because of those videos?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I guess. I mean, there’s no specification as to which video, just generally.

TUCKER CARLSON: Propagator of hate speech. The web host. That’s just the web host. Whoever owns the servers.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Exactly. Just the servers. So Hetzner and Vultr took me off. Yeah. That’s wild. Crazy, right? It’s just something you never would have thought of.

TUCKER CARLSON: Did you think of it ahead of time?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: No, absolutely not. That’s why I made the website in the first place. I was like, I’ll just make my own. And then we got taken off the hosting.

TUCKER CARLSON: Yeah. Did they explain it?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah, they cited banning circumvention— basically I circumvented a previous ban from another platform, which in this case would be Patreon, I guess. And then for hate speech or something along those lines.

TUCKER CARLSON: How long did this take to happen?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I think maybe it lasted a week for the first one, maybe a week again, maybe a week and a half.

TUCKER CARLSON: So immediately. Patreon. Pretty quickly.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Oh, Patreon within 24 hours from what I remember. And then about a week on one website and then about another week. One week on one website server and then another week. And there’s no appeal or argument or anything.

TUCKER CARLSON: No, we’re kicking you off.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: You’re out of here, buddy.

TUCKER CARLSON: Did you ever hear from them again? Did they reinstate you? Anybody?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Reinstated by none. It’s a joke.

TUCKER CARLSON: Yeah. So what did you do?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I mean, I have a new web host server right now. But are you worried about YouTube? I feel as if YouTube’s doing an okay job. They certainly are moderating, right? They’re letting us have this conversation. Yes. Those videos have 9 million views almost. To me, I got to give them kudos.

TUCKER CARLSON: They love this conversation. I spent many years attacking YouTube, and maybe I will again, but I got fired almost exactly 3 years ago, and YouTube has been a stalwart partner. I never thought I would say that. I wouldn’t lie about it. It’s not like I’m in— I don’t owe them money. Sure, I could exist without them, but I just have to be— I think you’re in the same position.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I would say largely I could not exist without them, but they’ve treated me with fairness. So that’s kind of shocking.

TUCKER CARLSON: It is. If you get to the point where you’re sitting here complimenting Google for their commitment to free speech, things are bad.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Bad, right?

TUCKER CARLSON: No, but we should be grateful for our blessings. Yeah. And so far YouTube has been a blessing. I can’t believe I’m saying that.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I know. It’s just a fact. Times are changing. It’s just a fact.

TUCKER CARLSON: I don’t know what to say. I feel like a sellout, but it’s just true. So, wow. So in the end, you replaced the income?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yes. Yeah.

TUCKER CARLSON: How do you do that? So Patreon is the dominant service for this, correct?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I used AI to code a new website and then we hosted it on a web host server.

TUCKER CARLSON: You made your own?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Made my own. Yeah. Like the next day at like 2 in the morning, I was just clacking away on— No way. I swear. Yeah, that’s the story.

TUCKER CARLSON: You built your own Patreon?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I don’t think it’s the prettiest website, Tucker. But yeah, we built a Patreon clone basically. Yeah.

TUCKER CARLSON: In 24 hours?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: No, maybe a couple days.

TUCKER CARLSON: A couple days. That’s incredible. And it actually works?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I guess for that much at least. Yeah, it works. Yeah. Process— surprisingly, it’s not that sophisticated to host a video.

TUCKER CARLSON: No, I guess that’s right. Yeah, right? It’s not a complicated product.

TUCKER CARLSON: So you have survived.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: We’ve survived and thrived. Yeah.

Lessons Learned: Power, Media, and the Orthodox Question

TUCKER CARLSON: What are the lessons you’re drawing from this?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Seemingly, there are a lot of powerful Jewish people who own significant media enterprises, websites that seem to bend the knee at least to what they view to be antisemitic dialogue.

TUCKER CARLSON: What’s interesting though is I don’t know a lot about it. I’ll just be totally blunt. I’ve always liked the Orthodox just on principle because— and I loved them during COVID because they wouldn’t stop their weddings.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah, they threw a middle finger.

TUCKER CARLSON: I love that. I was constantly from my heart complimenting the—

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I think they’re great if they did it on their own dime. That’s totally great.

TUCKER CARLSON: I didn’t even know. I think they’re—

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I mean, they’re nice people. If I wasn’t there with the camera asking critical questions, they’re nice enough.

TUCKER CARLSON: But what’s interesting is every time I’ve ever complimented the Orthodox— and I like their style. I like the beaver hats and all that. I like all that stuff. The garb is badass. The people who’ve pushed back against me are secular Jews. There’s always been in Israel, as noted, there’s terrible tension. But here also, I’ve had a lot of friends who are basically secular Jewish express real hostility toward the Orthodox.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: In what respect?

The Orthodox Jewish Video’s Fallout & Sponsor Backlash

TUCKER CARLSON: You know, they don’t like them. I mean, I’ve just noticed that my whole life, just having a lot of interesting secular Jewish friends. Whenever I’m like, I was in Borough Park, Brooklyn once, okay? And I came for a story years ago, 30 years, and I came back to my newsroom and I was like, I like those guys. And they were all the people I know who are secular Jews were like, they’re disgusting, they’re horrible. Like, there was tension between those two groups. That’s what I’ve always noticed. I’m hardly an expert. I’m an Episcopalian, but I’ve just, I’ve seen this. Yeah.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: What was fascinating to me is that despite their internal differences, they do show up for each other, it seems like.

TUCKER CARLSON: Apparently.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I think so because I had a lot of secular Jews frustrated and pissed off that we put out these videos. Really? Yeah. The Israelis kind of loved it though, it seems like. Right. Of course. They’re like, “Thank you for calling this out. We have the same thing here in Israel.”

TUCKER CARLSON: They won’t enlist. Whatever you think about the Israelis, I’ve known a bunch of them I liked personally, but they have fewer hangups about this kind of stuff. They’re much more direct. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They’re straightforward people. So is this going to change how you progress?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Hell no. No, I mean, this was the most radioactive thing we could have done at this point. No bars held. I mean, we’ll continue to critically show up with the same critical lens we would any other group.

TUCKER CARLSON: Did it affect any friendships?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: No, not that I’m aware of.

TUCKER CARLSON: Okay, good. Yeah, that’s good. Right. That’s a true loss. Yeah. If that happens to you, that’s a real—

TYLER OLIVEIRA: That would be sad. But ultimately, I would see that as their loss because come on, we’re on a mission here to hold everyone accountable to the same standards and to the same standards. That’s exactly right. Breaks our friendship, then come on, get out of here.

TUCKER CARLSON: I agree. I agree with that. Do you worry that if this can happen to you— I didn’t realize this stuff was still happening. I thought Trump was funny, right? All this stuff. I thought this was like a relic of the Biden years.

Algorithmic Suppression & YouTube’s Dogpiling Mechanic

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I’ll give you an example. There was a guy who made a similar video, almost a brand new channel, maybe like 2,000 subscribers on YouTube, a very small channel. And YouTube metrics — he put out a video there in Lakewood about a week or two before I think we finished ours, and he got dogpiled by the Orthodox Jewish community. They mass disliked it and ultimately algorithmically killed the video. They aborted the video before its inception, so to speak, and it never got to take off.

So my takeaway was, if we were not the size we were on YouTube, I don’t think we could comfortably even talk about a lot of these things. We have the track record for treating everyone equally, in my opinion. We have the size to sort of bully this into conversation — that was my takeaway.

TUCKER CARLSON: Interesting. Yeah. For people who don’t know what you mean about dogpiling a video out of existence, can you just explain the mechanics?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah, I mean, this is somewhat speculative on my end, but I think there’s data out there that suggests that when a video from the get-go is mass disliked — for instance, if you had 10,000 people click this video, dislike it, and watch it for 1 second, the algorithm would disincentivize the proliferation of this video to new viewers.

So you have a guy with 100 subscribers who puts out a video critical of a group like, let’s say, the Orthodox Jews, and it gets 10,000 dislikes, and they watch it for 5 seconds and leave a negative comment. YouTube’s going to see that as, this video does not resonate with the initial sample size and we will not continue to share this video. So his video will never get any traction because of that initial abortion of the video, so to speak.

TUCKER CARLSON: But you’ve reached a scale where that just doesn’t work anymore. Yeah. Has it hurt your business?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yes, I think so. Yeah. Sponsors won’t touch topics like that. We’ve had sponsors even asked to pull out sponsorships from videos we filmed 3 years ago that have nothing to do with these topics.

We filmed a video in a cancer belt in Louisiana about companies like — what’s an example? Some of these pesticide companies. Yeah, that’s — man, there’s the big one. Monsanto. Monsanto, I think. Yeah. In Louisiana, a bunch of people getting cancer way earlier than they should due to their exposure to these toxic chemicals. Videos totally unrelated to this Orthodox Jewish topic. They’ve asked to get pulled out from those videos.

So I’ve cut them out of the videos on YouTube, retroactively. 3-year-old videos, because of, I guess, the frustration of what this video represents. I don’t know. There’s no clarity beyond, you know, take this out. We have a legal clause that allows us to.

Growing Up in the Age of Identity Politics

TUCKER CARLSON: You said you grew up during George Floyd. Obviously you did. You’re 26. Yeah. Yeah. So that was 6 years ago. So you were just busy dropping out of college at that point?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah, I was actually in Austin when the riots happened and people were throwing Molotov cocktails through some bars downtown. I was watching the chaos unfold in downtown Austin. People were blowing up cars. I was like, what the hell is going on here? And I was pretty politically illiterate back then. I would argue I still am now.

And I didn’t even fully understand what was happening. I was like, why is Austin rioting? What does this have to do with Austin, Texas? Why is everyone still chipping out here? Oh no. I was like, wait, why did they get the pass to blow up a car? And why do the cops just watch it happen? What does Austin have to do with Minneapolis, right? It just didn’t make any sense.

And when that happened, this was also during the COVID nonsense, the lockdown restrictions, all that fun stuff. And I was like, screw this, I’m going back to Modesto. I was like, I’m out of here. I broke the lease prematurely and just left. I was like, I’m not dealing with this.

TUCKER CARLSON: So if you’re 26, I mean, your whole adult life has been like Me Too, George Floyd — what else? It’s been one witch hunt after another. It’s just been pure identity politics from the minute you left high school.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah, there is no world that I can recall without this identity politics, right? There is no non-tribal politics that I—

TUCKER CARLSON: But you belong to the only group that’s not allowed to have a tribe, so that must be very strange for you.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I don’t know what to make of it. I think — I don’t either. I can’t conceive of a world where this was not the case. And I imagine you grew up in a time where most people looked the same for the most part. Yeah. They worshiped the same God. They did. And what? They wanted what was best for the economy. They wanted national security and a thriving economy.

TUCKER CARLSON: And I think because it was overwhelmingly, overwhelmingly white and Christian, the country that I grew up in, the Christian whites really went out of their way to make non-Christian whites feel comfortable. Yeah, that was like, that was a huge emphasis. You know, there are some people who aren’t like us and we need to do whatever we can to de-emphasize the differences and to make them feel included.

That whole worldview I think is dying as the group that did it becomes a minority. But there was no sense in which, you know, discrimination was acceptable at all, even in private. People didn’t ever say, “Damn those Jews,” or “Damn those Blacks.” Like, I never heard one person talk like that ever.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: And now that’s pretty mainstream.

TUCKER CARLSON: Now they’re like, oh, people say, “Oh, I don’t believe you, you’re lying.” I don’t care what you think. I was there, and nobody ever talked that way, ever, ever.

Balkanization of America & The New American Dream

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Even as a kid, maybe the earliest I can remember it, maybe in elementary school, like, there truly might have been a colorblind element to life, right? And then beyond high school, for me though, everything’s in this identity politics. How do you think this ends? Balkanization of America for sure, right? We’re already seeing it. If you can afford to, you’ll insulate yourself from like crime-ridden inner cities.

TUCKER CARLSON: And that’s why you’re in Bozeman or wherever, you know. That’s why Bozeman all of a sudden tripled in value, right?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Absolutely. If you have the money, you’ll leave these areas that are becoming crime-ridden sh*tholes. And if you don’t, you’ll be left behind as seemingly these activist judges release the same repeat offenders — these murderous people who are, I guess, too mentally insane to be institutionalized, but mentally sane enough to be let back on the streets.

TUCKER CARLSON: Well, you can see why there are probably whites who are getting a little paranoid. If you’re the only non-protected group and every other group thinks as a group except you, who are not allowed to think as a group, and a lot of groups hate you, but there’s no one to defend you. Then you can see why Elon Musk recently tweeted, “We’re moving towards South Africa and the whites are screwed.” You can see why.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: That’s a great analogy, right? Do people feel that way? I mean, go visit a sh*t hole city like Jackson, Mississippi.

TUCKER CARLSON: I spent a summer in Jackson in the late ’80s.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Okay, in the late ’80s.

TUCKER CARLSON: In a Black neighborhood and it was great and the Black people were super nice and there was no crime aimed at me. I think things have changed. That’s kind of the point I’m making.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. I can’t remember that world.

TUCKER CARLSON: I was in Jackson, Mississippi in the summer of 1989 in a Black neighborhood for like 3 weeks. And I went to the 7-Eleven at night to buy cigarettes and call my girlfriend on the payphone. And not one person bothered me. And I was the only pale face in the zip code. So that did exist. I was there. Yeah.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. I think you’d be unwise to show up to Detroit or Philadelphia or Jackson, Mississippi. And what gets rich too, Tucker, is a lot of people will make it a red-blue state issue. I mean, there are some f*ed up cities all across America that deal with the same issues. I’ve known and noticed. And it’s not on the lines of red or blue, Democrat, Republican.

TUCKER CARLSON: No.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: It exists all over. So I don’t know. I think if you — the dream, the American dream right now is seemingly to make enough money to insulate yourself from the chaos unfolding in major cities, to get out of the major city. To go buy a nice house in the suburbs and to be left alone. That seems to be the modern American dream.

And for a lot of people coming to the US, it seems to be to make as much money as possible, send as much as you can back home, and then show up to a mega mansion in Bengaluru, India after you’re done exploiting the United States. That’s what it seems like the dream is for a lot of these people coming here.

White Americans & The Fear of Being Unprotected

TUCKER CARLSON: So yeah. So that leaves one group totally unprotected, seemingly white people. By every measure. So I have noticed just in — and of course I don’t know what’s coming — but I’ve noticed concern bordering on paranoia among people I’ve been talking to, pretty moderate, normal Bush, Romney, McCain, now Trump voters, just Republicans, nothing crazy, not a white supremacist among them at all. It’s like normal whites who are like, “I think we’re going to get necklaced at some point.”

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I think that group’s probably least likely to hold any in-group racial preference, right?

TUCKER CARLSON: These are not people who’ve ever thought of themselves as white at all, right? These are not people who’ve like, you know, they’re not from Alpena, Arkansas. No, no, these are people from like Long Beach. That’s what I’m saying.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: They’re those least likely to totally hold any, you know, whites don’t stick together in their eyes, right? It’s at all. It’s never occurred to them. They’ve never had the need to. Right.

TUCKER CARLSON: But those people, at least I’ve just noticed this in the past couple of months, are like, “Man, we’re in trouble.”

TYLER OLIVEIRA: That’s interesting.

TUCKER CARLSON: Have you heard anyone say that?

Gen Z’s Disillusionment and the Political Vacuum

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I only speak to, I feel like, Gen Z. How do they feel? Gen Z feels hopeless, demoralized, without opportunity. The college degree is seemingly useless. The bachelor’s degree means nothing. They have to compete with a globalized labor force. There’s what, human quantitative easing at play where we’re insuring infinite jobs to compete against our college graduates. Yet Trump’s out there saying our college graduates are lazy and incompetent and not sufficient to fill these jobs despite us holding what, the best universities on the planet. You guys noticed when he said that? Yeah, right? And that’s such a slap in the face of what’s the point? What are we even voting for? Right? That’s the question. Who represents my generation’s interests? Someone will have to, otherwise that energy has to be funneled somewhere.

TUCKER CARLSON: So Trump did say something like that.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I think something along those exact lines.

TUCKER CARLSON: Yeah. And people in your generation heard it.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: They caught that. Well, yeah. These are the same people who don’t have a job several years out of college, who can’t get a job with their degree, who are competing with infinite H-1B Indians, these guys who have 20 years experience from India who are taking their job and are using these H-1Bs as a wage suppression mechanism. Like, why are we not paying these H-1Bs above market rate if they’re such rare, irreplaceable talent, right? It seems to only be a wage suppression mechanism.

So our generation’s getting replaced by seemingly foreigners. Not seemingly, actual, literally enclaves of foreigners. They know the game though. They understand that politics is zero-sum. They need to elect their own, protect their own interests. And that’s what I think my generation is maybe waking up to and maybe something that your generation has had the good fortune of not having to spend as much time as.

TUCKER CARLSON: Completely different country. Completely different. And I wouldn’t be in touch with it if I didn’t have so many children and so many employees and other reasons. But in general, yeah, no, I think I’m more aware of it, but still not anywhere near as aware of it as you would be since I’m not having—

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Identity politics was gay and woke for the longest time until the white guy in his 20s was forced to confront himself with either we developed some in-groups, some in-group racial preference, or we’re going to go extinct.

Identity Politics and the Administration’s Priorities

TUCKER CARLSON: I think what’s just so interesting is that I’ve noticed that this administration, which I think was elected to end identity politics, is engaged in the most aggressive identity politics, but only on behalf of 2% of the population. And so every single tweet from every person I know in the administration is like, “Harvard’s real problem is that it’s discriminated against Jews.” Meanwhile, it’s like 20% Jewish with a Jewish president. And the one group that is provably unrepresented is high SAT-scoring, high IQ Christian white kids.

And not only are they not ignoring that, but they’re making a mockery of it and pointing their finger at that exact same group and accusing them of the sin, and it is a sin, of antisemitism. And it’s like, are you begging for revolution? Is that what you want? It’s mocking people who are being destroyed for who they are. And you know that that’s true and you’re ignoring it on purpose on behalf of people who are— whatever.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah, there’s not a talent deficiency within this ethnic group.

TUCKER CARLSON: It’s almost too much though. It’s a kind of humiliation that I don’t understand why you would ever do that to somebody.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. So you can’t be surprised when there’s an epidemic of what, incels and hopeless young men who are opting out of the dating market, who are opting out of— eventually you give up, I’m sure, if you apply to 10,000 jobs and you’re algorithmically filtered out of consideration for a job.

TUCKER CARLSON: I don’t think there’s been any attempt to fix any of that.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I don’t think so at all. I think the answer we’ve been given is you’re not talented enough, you’re lazy, we don’t need you.

TUCKER CARLSON: Here’s an Indian, seemingly, and we’re going to sue Harvard for discriminating against Jews.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: And the real problem is not the rapists, pedophiles in power. It’s Harvard discriminating against Jews. Give me a break. Pam Bondi, she tweeted that out. I was like, come on, Pam. Lock in, Pam. Let’s focus here, Pam.

TUCKER CARLSON: No, I think this isn’t— it’s not just negligence. It’s hate. It’s hate, obviously. It’s hate. But where does that leave the group that you’re talking about, which voted for Trump, by the way, overwhelmingly?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Bag holders. Yeah.

The Rise of a More Radical Political Movement

TUCKER CARLSON: And then Nick Fuentes— Fuentes is only about Fuentes. But at some point, there’s going to be someone who is not just about himself, who actually wants to build a political movement that is way more radical than the Republican Party. And that person is going to be huge among your generation. Is that a fair prediction?

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah. I mean, listen, I don’t know the full political belief of— I don’t know all the beliefs Fuentes has, for example, but I think he’s right that young men are disaffected. I’m not attacking Fuentes.

TUCKER CARLSON: I’m just saying Fuentes is only about Fuentes or whatever.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: I mean, I don’t know his intentions.

TUCKER CARLSON: Ultimately, he talks about himself. He’s not avoidable. But he makes points that are true.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Absolutely. A lot of them for sure.

TUCKER CARLSON: And he is being—

TYLER OLIVEIRA: And it’s like that ring true for a non-radical or someone who is— They ring true for me.

TUCKER CARLSON: That’s why I interviewed him. I don’t agree with a lot of it. I told him I didn’t. But in general, his critique that the whites are shafted for sure, and that this Israel relationship is really sick, and that everyone basically that voted for Trump is seemingly not getting anything— I agree with all of that. So that’s all real. My only point is people look at Fuentes and they’re like, “Oh, you’re the scariest thing that could happen.” Oh no, absolutely not.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah, yeah, that’s my point. I don’t know where it goes. The energy has to go somewhere, right? This is like Newton’s— Newton’s, I don’t know, second law, third law. I only went to high school. You tell me, Tucker. The energy must be diverted elsewhere.

And a lot of young men are pissed off. I think for a lot of young men though, they will just hibernate. And jerk off and decay in their basements, in their parents’ homes. That is reality. There will be a eugenics effect, white men getting litigated or filtered out of participation in society. There will be an extinction event for sure. That’s inevitable, right? But some of them might try to do something a bit more bold and revolutionary, maybe. But how does something like that even come into existence? I wish I knew. With the surveillance state, can you even— is democracy the means by which my generation uplifts their quality of life? Is that a possibility? Because the Republicans clearly don’t care. The Democrats don’t care. Is there a third-party alternative? What does that look like? I’m not sure, but the two current options are insufficient.

You’re making me emotional. Really? Because what you’re saying is true.

TUCKER CARLSON: Yeah. Yeah.

Closing Thoughts

TYLER OLIVEIRA: And I’m like, I mean, I think of myself as a pretty reasonable guy, right? I was politically illiterate in many ways. I didn’t think about this stuff. I was making goofy YouTube videos in my early 20s, from 18, 19, 20, 21. It was only until I was about 22 years old till I even realized all this stuff was going on. I didn’t even think really about the George Floyd stuff that much. But now it’s unavoidable.

People say, “Why are you making everything so political?” They’ll talk to their neighbors or their family members. “Why is everything so political?” And now it’s unavoidable. You have to consider the reality and the consequences of how your everyday life is being affected by these things. So unfortunately, everyday people have a political opinion on everything right now. And I think that’s a tragedy more than a blessing. It’s not a win.

TUCKER CARLSON: No, it’s not a win at all. Well, I’m subscribing to you, so thank you. That was awesome. I really thank you for spending all this time.

TYLER OLIVEIRA: Yeah, thanks for having me. I appreciate it. For sure.

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