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Don’t Try To Be Mindful: Daron Larson (Full Transcript)

Full text of mindfulness trainer Daron Larson’s talk: Don’t Try To Be Mindful at TEDxColumbus conference. In this talk, he explains that just as regular exercise can improve your physical well-being, that training your attention can transform the way you navigate the challenges of everyday life.


Daron Larson – Mindful Awareness Trainer

So, mindfulness is a way to train your attention using your ordinary senses and perceptions. Maybe you’ve heard about it.

There’s this explosion of research that’s validating its many benefits: the way it helps people manage stress; reduce their anxiety; and even sleep better.

I was skeptical about these claims, because I have kind of a natural talent for stress.

One time, I was stressed out on vacation after a massage at a hot springs spa resort. And I kept thinking how I wanted to take a picture of this place, because it would help me relax when I got back to the job I was dreading returning to.

So, that gives you an idea of what I was up against, but I decided I’m going to give this mindfulness a try. So I’ve been practicing every day for 13 years.

And I noticed that it started to quietly transform the way I was living my life when I stopped trying to get the outcomes I was hoping for and instead put my attention on doing the exercises required to get there.

It reminded me what I already knew about physical fitness. If you take the stairs and you notice your heart starts to beat faster, maybe your legs start to burn, you don’t say to yourself, “Oh, I must be taking the stairs wrong.” Right?

You say, “This is what taking the stairs feels like.”

And if we always take the elevator in order to save time and avoid discomfort, we just miss opportunities for developing our physical health. And it’s the same thing. It works the same way.

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So many people try mindfulness and they’re convinced they’re doing it wrong, so they give up. And they miss an opportunity to change their relationship with discomfort.

And if you expect your everyday life to be free of discomfort and confusion, you’re going to spend all your energy worrying, trying not to feel what you feel, and saying, “This messy life is not my real life.”

So what keeps us holding out for these perfect, comfortable lives that we imagine? And how can training your attention help address these habits?

There’s an underlying story problem built into the way we relate to our lives. It feels like I’m a character navigating all these challenges in order to get somewhere. And this narrative structure is incredibly useful. It helps me decide what’s important. It makes it possible to work towards and achieve goals.

But there’s a problem. My obstacles don’t seem to be part of what I consider my actual life. They feel like temporary annoyances that I have to push through in order to get to what’s on the other side.

But very often, it turns out what’s on the other side of my obstacles ends up not being the relief I’m hoping for. Am I the only one? It ends up being another obstacle.

And I have a spoiler alert here. This pattern keeps repeating and repeating, and we end up waiting for, habitually waiting for whatever’s happening to pass.

And this dilemma scales all the way down to the moment-by-moment experience. All these little looping stories of waking up on time and trying to get to work and going to a meeting and dealing with difficult people, deciding what to eat.

And maybe the best we can do is sometimes comfort ourselves with the idea of evenings and weekends and vacations. Right?

But it’s at this moment-by-moment scale where the work of mindfulness occurs — all these little places where we distract ourselves and go onto auto pilot.

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But mindfulness isn’t a solution to your story problem. So don’t cancel your therapy appointment. It’s not a narrative solution at all. It’s actually a solution for the problem of living within these narrative constraints.

And any time that you habitually check out starts to become an opportunity for checking in. So let me give you a little exercise that you can use in any situation.

All you have to do is pause to notice some sensory detail of your current experience. Let’s give this a quick spin. For just a few seconds, what’s it like to see? That’s right: it’s easy.

What’s it like to hear? What’s it like to notice some sensation in your body? So that’s probably the shortest exercise workout I’ve ever led.

But what I’m hoping to — what I’m hoping you’ll do is compare it to what you already know about physical fitness. One push-up’s not very impressive. It seems kind of trivial.

But we know that if we make a habit and we do several push-ups a day, over weeks we’re going to start noticing more strength in our upper body.

So instead of trying to be mindful, what if you tried to notice what’s happening. Every time you stop and pay close attention to what’s happening, you disrupt that narrative, that narrative of your life, from inside your story.

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