Florida Surgeon General Speaks Against COVID-19 mRNA Vaccines (Transcript)

I want to make it very clear. President Donald Trump, last I checked, he didn’t go to medical school, okay? He doesn’t have a PhD in epidemiology or virology or immunology. His job was to lead the nation, and he did that the best way he could with the information he had.

The people who are responsible for the carnage that we are witnessing, and frankly, that whether we witness it in a way that we know, or witness it in a way that is unknown, and I’m talking about people who die suddenly, or die unexpectedly, or for whatever reason, but they’re no longer here to speak, right? That story goes away, except in the minds of their loved ones.

The people who are responsible are the people who had the training, who had the scientific training, the clinical training, the training in data to be able to know when things are risky, to be able to know how to properly evaluate the new products. Those are the people who are responsible. Dr. Anthony Fauci is one of the people that are responsible, and frankly, every physician who decided to bury their head in the sand instead of facing up to the fact that the patient in front of them has some condition that could or probably was related to their vaccine injury, they are responsible.

We all share, to some degree, a level of responsibility when we have training and expertise in this area. President Donald Trump is not responsible for the carnage that we have seen. He did the best that he could with the skills and the training that he has. Trying to protect President Trump is not a reason to not take care of the millions of people who have been injured by these mRNA COVID-19 vaccines. We have a duty to do that. We absolutely have a duty to do that as clinicians, as scientists. We must do what we can. It is the ultimate travesty to allow this to continue to fester in the background without adequate attention.

Call for Federal Action

Today, I want to call on the federal government, NIH, to expand the work that they are doing in Long COVID to genuinely and wholly include vaccine-injured people, specifically people who have been injured by mRNA COVID-19 vaccines. We need to study this better. We need to fund physicians who are caring for these patients clinically and who are doing scientific work in this area. We need to create networks that allow physicians to do what they are trained to do. You do that by facilitating communication, exchange of data, and exchange of ideas. It is long past time. This is a terrible tragedy that is still happening. Even though we have a change of leadership, it is a terrible tragedy. That is what I am calling on the federal government to do today.

With that, I want to call Dr. Pierre Kory to the podium.

Dr. Pierre Kory Takes the Podium

Dr. Pierre Kory: Good morning. I want to start by saying how honored I am to be here to speak on an issue that really is near and dear to my heart. It is really the central focus of my current life’s work. It is trying

Medical Professionals Share Frontline Experiences

to treat the vaccine-injured. I am just honored to be a citizen of Florida. Dr. Ladapo used the word Florida-esque. I think we should all recognize that Florida has been a leader in actually science of COVID in terms of being open, transparent, willing to ask the tough questions, provide guidance, and really look at their data transparently and share it with others. They have evolved with the data. These consensuses that were created within minutes of this COVID, which is that an experimental vaccine is safe and effective—that was the mantra before any real data of long-term safety or efficacy was there—needed to be reexamined. I think Florida has led that.

They have very quickly acted in terms of resisting mandates, coercion, and proof of vaccination. They even created a statewide grand jury to look into fraud behind this because I guarantee you there is fraud. It is hard to detect and provide the evidence for, but it is there. I am honored to be here and part of that. I think it is good science that is being done. It is science which is intended for the health of the public. You cannot make correct decisions unless you are fully informed. How do you make health decisions unless you really are aware of the risks and benefits of any therapy that is being recommended or offered? That was not the case in COVID. We were just simply told that everything was safe and effective. Many people were very trusting. That was their only fault, if that is a fault.

Like Dr. Ladapo mentioned, I think now the people are starting to ask questions because they know that they were essentially, you could say, lied to or misrepresented. One thing I will say is Florida led the charge here, but Florida will never be as fast as an astute clinician. We know this stuff before any of you. Before the studies come out, before the database analysis, we know it because we see it. Those of us on the front lines.

Building a Specialty Practice for Vaccine Injury

I will just kind of transition. I want to say a few minutes of what I have been doing for the last few years. Three and a half years ago, I left the system of medicine or was excommunicated, one of the two. I think it was mutual. I went into private practice. With the sole intent of building a specialty practice, focused on the care of the vaccine injured and long COVID. I recognized that it was the greatest unmet medical need in the country. The patients were being gas lit, ignored, misdiagnosed. There were legions of them. In my public advocacy and wherever I traveled or asked to speak, I was talking to just innumerable vaccine injured. As a curious clinician and I like challenges, I decided to take on this disease.

I have now spent three and a half years treating patients who are chronically ill from the vaccine. Without going too much into the science, I personally differentiate. I use two different terms. Vaccine injury, the way I use it, I think about that as a single organ dysfunction problem. A stroke, a heart attack, myocarditis, an autoimmune condition, what have you. When I use the term post-vaccine injury syndrome, that is a constellation of symptoms.

Understanding Long COVID vs. Long Vaccine Syndrome

Although we know this syndrome called long COVID and we’re only beginning to recognize long vacs, I will tell you that is what my practice specializes in. Those are new terms for an old syndrome. What we’re seeing is an epidemic of a disease that has long been called myalgic encephalitis slash chronic fatigue syndrome. There’s three pillars to that diagnosis. They’re all clinical. There are no tests for this syndrome, but it’s patients who present with this constellation of fatigue, post-exertional malaise, and some sort of cognitive dysfunction that we sometimes use, brain fog. That’s not the only three things they come with, but those are generally present in any patient who comes to see me.

They have a whole side menu or side list of other symptoms from sensory neuropathies, motor neuropathies, cranial symptoms, headache syndromes, tinnitus, vertigo, inflammatory syndromes, but the core is that. The Mayo Clinic called that out in 2021 in regards to COVID, that they were seeing unprecedented rates of ME-CFS. Historically, ME-CFS has always been associated with infections. Most common is EBV or mono. Lyme disease can do it. Mycoplasma can do it, but with COVID, it’s immense.

Here’s what I want to tell you. In my practice, we treat long COVID and long vacs. 70% of the patients in my practice became ill after the vaccine. They are long vacs. The vast majority of what this rest of science in this country is calling long COVID is actually long vacs. How do I know the difference? Very easy, it’s called temporal association. If someone’s symptoms present within days to weeks of COVID, long COVID. If it presents within days to weeks or sometimes minutes to hours of the vaccine, it’s long vaccine. It’s not that complicated to know what the trigger was. And they both share pathogenic insults, which is the spike protein.

The Human Cost of Vaccine Injury

And the sadness, and I’ll try to wrap up because I don’t want to go too long, but the sadness is in my first year in practice, I think the value that I brought to the patients is I listened to them. They understood that I understood them. I wasn’t gaslighting them. I knew what was wrong with them, or I knew what caused their illness. And I was willing to try to treat it. Three and a half years later, I think the value I bring is immense clinical experience using a diversity of therapies where I’ve been able to mitigate much of their suffering and return to quite a bit of functioning. Many of them became disabled.

And when I say that is so many of my patients, when you take their history prior to their illness, they will report that they ate well. They were absolutely successful in their careers. They liked to exercise and stay fit. They were raising their children. And now they found themselves barely able to get out of bed in some cases. Or if they do, they immediately get fatigued and they’re back in their house. And a lot of them are housebound. They cannot work anymore. They become financially unhealthy.

So the amount of ways in which they get sick is immeasurable. It’s not only physical, it’s financial. It’s sexual, like with their relationships. It’s occupational, they can’t work. And so I see these multiply disabled patients who are really enjoying like the peak of their lives and now are decimated. And it’s an endless sadness. But I’m very proud of the work I’ve done with myself and my colleagues. We’ve helped innumerable of them. But it is the most complex and idiosyncratic disease that I’ve ever encountered. And I hope to continue that work.

And so I want to second that call that Dr. Ladapo just made. Is that I’ve been doing this like hook and the crook, like a gumshoe detective trying to figure out how to help these patients. But I’d love for the government to back us up and find really good research that can help understand the disease better, select therapies better, in order to mitigate the immense suffering that I see on a daily basis. So again, I’m really appreciative and grateful that you asked me to come, Joe. Thanks, thanks.

Introduction of Dr. Joe WALLSKOG

Thank you. Oh, I’m supposed to introduce my colleague, Dr. Wallskog. He’s been a long time friend and colleague now we met in COVID. We both worked in Wisconsin together. And just as I talked about my experiences, I will say that Dr. Walskog, he’s been involved in really attending to supporting the vaccine injured, not only promoting research, but also financial support. In fact, part of your early fundraising was devoted to paying for the care of many of the vaccine injured. And he’s since gone on to do lots more things and working on changing policy. And so I appreciate his organization that he co-founded, which is REACT-19 and everything that they’re doing. And so welcome to Dr. Joe Walskog.

DR. JOE WALLSKOG: Thank you, Pierre. And thank you, Dr. Ladapo, for the invitation to speak today at the press conference here to discuss the removal of the COVID-19 shots in pregnant women and from the childhood immunization schedule here in the United States. Let me be clear. The COVID shots should have never been authorized in children and pregnant women, even in emergency use. As a physician, as a person who sustained an adverse event to the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine, or I should say shot, and as co-chairman of REACT-19, which represents almost 40,000 Americans, I am hopeful that I can provide you all with some unique perspectives on the development and the safety of the COVID shots.

Dr. Oscar’s Personal Experience and REACT-19 Mission

I enjoyed a successful orthopedic practice in Wisconsin for 19 years. On December 30th of 2020, I received my one and only Moderna shot. Within one week after this injection, I developed problems with my legs, including weakness, numbness, and loss of balance leading to numerous falls. I was diagnosed with transverse myelitis. All my providers did not even recognize the association of the injection. Since my original diagnosis, I’ve also been diagnosed with autonomic dysfunction and an unspecified immune disorder. I was forced to medically retire.

I am now co-chair of REACT-19, which is a science-based, non-political, non-profit organization that represents Americans seriously injured by the COVID-19 shots. Our mission is to provide the injured community with financial, physical, and emotional support. I am here today to express my profound concerns regarding the development and safety of the COVID-19 shots, particularly in children and pregnant women.

Concerns About Clinical Trial Process

In 2021, the American public was reassured that the clinical trials were rigorous with required oversight by our federal health regulatory agencies. We were also reassured that the rollout of the shots was carefully managed. We were repeatedly told the shots were safe. Growing evidence paints quite a different story. The process was undoubtedly rushed. Safety data was withheld, or in certain instances, altered.

Maddie DeGaray, many of you may know her story. She was injured during the phase three Pfizer trial. She was 14. That was at Cincinnati Children’s Hospital. She’s 17 now, still in a wheelchair, and using a feeding tube for nutrition. She has been gaslit by almost all of her providers in Ohio, and she’s currently actually up in Jacksonville rehabilitating through the Ronald McDonald House. If you review that phase three clinical trial data about Maddie, her symptoms are basically reduced to a stomach ache. And of course, not related to her Pfizer injection that received as part of the phase three clinical trial.

Reporting systems such as VAERS and V-safe have been dismal failures. Are such reporting systems deficient by design is one of my questions. Our regulatory agencies, such as the FDA, publicly supported and openly promoted the experimental countermeasures in an obvious conflict of interest to its mission to protect Americans from drugs and medical devices.

Regulatory Failures and Safety Concerns

Regulatory norms were ignored. Instead of requiring pharmaceutical companies to prove the product was safe and effective, the COVID-19s were assumed to be safe and effective, with follow-up data sometimes as short as two weeks. These products were given to pregnant and lactating women, as well as children, with no long-term safety data. This decision to do that is counter to hundreds of years of medical dictum not to use experimental products in pregnant and lactating women and in children.

I say all this to you today not to relive the past. I choose instead to admit the things we could have done better. I choose to focus on science and not polarizing rhetoric. In React-19, we often say “we’ve had negative reactions, but we seek positive actions.” Science is rarely settled. Scientific conclusions can be changed with new information.

I’m certainly glad and appreciative that the COVID-19 shots have been removed from the childhood vaccination schedule for healthy children. This decision in healthy children and pregnant women will undoubtedly reduce future injury to these populations. However, much damage has already been done. There are countless children and adults who have been injured by the COVID-19 shots. As Americans, we need to recognize our fellow citizens injured by the COVID-19 shots in a non-judgmental fashion. They need acknowledgement, research, medical care, as well as fair and just compensation. I will not stop until we achieve these humanitarian goals. Thank you.

Question and Answer Session

Dr. Ladapo: Okay, thank you. Thank you very much, Dr. Oscar. Okay, well, we’ll take a few questions. Anyone who has questions for Dr. Kory, Dr. Wallskog, or myself?

Question: One vaccine worse than another, and what’s the future for people who are already taking vaccines, not because they’re a problem, but because they go with their lives?

Dr. Ladapo: Yeah, very important questions. So first of all, multiple studies now, to be very clear, multiple studies now show that, of the two, Moderna and Pfizer, Pfizer is definitely worse. Pfizer is worse for cardiovascular side effects related to blood clotting. Pfizer is worse for neurologic effects. And Pfizer is worse for serious adverse events overall. A few studies have shown that Pfizer may be associated with, may be associated with an increase in mortality, also, compared to Moderna.

The vaccines, they are not the same. You know, you’ve heard my opinion, Dr. Kory’s, Dr. Walsh-Cogg’s opinions about their use in general, but between the two of them, Pfizer is definitely worse. You’ve got probably more myocarditis cases with Moderna, but Pfizer is worse overall.

And then, you know, the second question you asked is a really good one. Another doctor that I think probably all of us admire, a doctor named Dr. Mary Bowden in Texas, she’s been writing a bit about how she’s been testing antibody levels. And what she’s finding is that levels of antibody to spike protein, for people who’ve been vaccinated, who are her patients, they remain elevated for long periods of time. And that’s not normal. That’s completely abnormal. So this is just part of the reason why we absolutely need more infrastructure in this area, more scientific infrastructure, more funding, to support the patients and the physicians and the scientists who can help us understand what the long-term impacts are for all populations who’ve received these products.

Question: So can you speak a little bit to this donation to improvement in the vaccine in general for healthy children versus the verbiage of saying for all children?

Dr. Ladapo: Yeah, I mean, you know, I hope that we get there. Obviously, there’s a difference. And I hope that we get there. Because these products, they should not be used in any human beings. And, you know, there’s some people who are trying to put them in animals too. And I think many of us wouldn’t want to eat that food, either, that meat.

Question: What sort of along those lines would be a recommendation for the whole population if they’re weighing whether or not they should continue to get them?

Dr. Ladapo: Okay, yeah. So I apologize that it hasn’t been clear. They shouldn’t take them. They are products that should not be going into human beings. And in terms of alternatives for individuals who are still concerned, there are a few things to recognize. First of all, you should know that there is a lot of evidence from different studies in different groups that show that the people who receive these vaccines, including older people, eventually become at increased risk of contracting COVID-19. So there’s a negative effect, or negative efficacy, or pardon me, negative effectiveness associated with them.

Second, there are treatments. The treatments aren’t fantastic, but there are treatments. There’s a drug that Merck makes. There’s a drug that Pfizer makes called Paxlovid. There’s actually another outpatient option too that’s IV. And for prevention, there’s actually a monoclonal antibody that’s been approved by the FDA. So it essentially functions similar to a vaccine that people can take it. It’s every six to 12 months or so. So there are options for people beyond that.

Question: In your opinion, should the adults be healthy and young and should they be dropped from the guideline instead of just being normal for everyone?

Dr. Ladapo: Yeah, so actually that brings me to the third point that I didn’t mention before. So at this point, literally every walking human being, every adult has had COVID-19 before. And the risk of an adverse outcome for someone who’s had COVID-19 is extremely low. So we are in the area of certainly for young people of something that is comparable to the cold, right? To the rhinovirus. People can still get sick, but in terms of actual major health impacts for almost virtually all young people and virtually all healthy people who’ve had this before, it’s really not something that it should be elevated to the level of other conditions that we have more concern about.

And then the other thing again to mention is that increasingly it appears that the folks who have received these vaccines, particularly when they’ve been boosted and particularly when they continue to be boosted appear to actually be at highest risk of becoming seriously ill from the virus.

Question: What level of optimism are you at when it comes to we’ll figure this out, we’ll get safe vaccines, ready-to-go vaccines, and how do you feel about that in the future going forward?

Dr. Ladapo: I’m a, am I an optimistic person? I don’t, I’m not, I generally, I generally think that, you know, yeah, yeah. No, I wouldn’t even call it optimism. Optimism’s a wrong word. I am confident that things are going to get better. What I don’t

DR. JOSEPH LADAPO: I know is the time, how long it’s going to take, what the timeline is, but I’m very confident that things are going to get better. And it’s really up to us to keep doing what we’re doing, what we’re doing here today, what these guys have been doing for years, and what other people who have been courageous and really stood with the truth, however uncomfortable it was.

So with all of that, we’re going to keep going in the right direction. The more of us that do it, the faster we’ll get there. All right, thank you guys very much.

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