Neuroscientist Sara Lazar on How Meditation Can Reshape Our Brains at TEDxCambridge 2011 – Transcript
Sara Lazar – Neuroscientist
Good morning. So when I was in graduate school, I was a runner, and a friend and I decided that we’re going to run the Boston Marathon. And so we started training and we overtrained, and I developed knee and back problems.
So I went to see a physical therapist, and they told me that I had to stop running and instead I should just stretch.
As I was leaving the physical therapist office, I saw an ad for a vigorous yoga class that promised not only to promote flexibility, but also to promote strength and cardiorespiratory fitness. So I thought, oh, well, this is a great way that I can stretch, but also remain in shape, and maybe I could even still run the Boston Marathon.
So I went to the yoga class and I really enjoyed it, except when the teacher would make all sorts of claims, you know, all sorts of medical claims, but also claims about, oh, yes, it will help you…you’ll increase your compassion and open your heart and I was just like…I remember my eyes would roll and…I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, I am here to stretch.
But what was interesting was that after a couple of weeks I started noticing some of these changes, I started noticing that I was calmer and I was better able to handle difficult situations, and indeed, I was feeling more compassionate and open-hearted towards other people, and I was better able to see things from other people’s point of view.
And, you know, I was like, hm, how could this be, how could this be? And, I thought, well maybe, you know, it’s just a placebo response, right? She told me I will feel this, so maybe that’s why I was feeling it.
So I decided to do a literature search to see if there’s any research on this. And low and behold, there was quite a bit showing both yoga and meditation are extremely effective for decreasing stress. They’re also very good for reducing symptoms associated with numerous diseases including depression, anxiety, pain, and insomnia.
And there’s a couple of very good studies demonstrating it can actually improve your ability to pay attention, and most interestingly, I thought virtually every study has shown that people are just happier. They report they’re more satisfied with their life, and they have a higher quality of life. And so, this was interesting to me. And so I decided to switch and start doing this sort of research.
So as a neuroscientist, you know, how could this be happening? How can something as silly as a yoga posture or sitting and watching your breath. How can that lead to all these sorts of different types of changes?
So, what we know is that whenever you engage in a behavior over and over again, that this can lead to changes in your brain. And this is what’s referred to as neuroplasticity. And what this just means is that your brain is plastic and that the neurons can change how they talk to each other with experience.
And so, there’s a couple of studies demonstrating that you can actually detect this, using machines like the MRI machine. The first study was with juggling. They took people who had never ever juggled before, and they scanned them, and then they taught them how to juggle, and they said, “Keep practicing for three months.” And they brought them back after three months, and they scanned them the second time, and they found that they could actually detect with the MRI machine changes in the amount of gray matter in the brain of these people in areas that are important for detecting visual motion.
So, I thought, okay, three months, you know…Can meditation change brain structure too? Something as simple as, you know, as juggling. What about meditation?
So the first study we did, we recruited a bunch of people from the Boston area, and these were not monks or meditation teachers, they’re just average Joes who on average practice meditation about 30-40 minutes a day, and we put them in a scanner, and we compared them to a group of people who were demographically matched, but who don’t meditate.
And what we found is this: That there were indeed several regions of the brain that had more gray matter in the meditators compared to the controls. One of the regions I’m going to point out to you is here in the front of the brain, it’s the area that’s important for working memory and executive decision making. And what was interesting about it was when we actually plotted the data versus their ages. So here in the red square, that’s the controls. And this is something you see actually, it’s been well documented that as we get older, not just there, but across most of our cortex, it actually shrinks as we get older. And this is part of the reason why as we get older, it’s harder to figure things out and to remember things.