JPMorgan Chase (NYSE:JPM) Q3 2013 Earnings Conference Call Transcript

JPMorgan Chase & Co (NYSE:JPM)

Q3 2013 Earnings Conference Call Transcript

Event Held on October 11, 2013, 8:30 AM Eastern Time


Section I: Management Presentation



Please standby. We are about to begin. Good morning ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to JPMorgan Chase’s third quarter 2013 earnings call. This call is being recorded. Your line will be muted for the duration of this call. We will now go live to the presentation. Please standby.

At this time, I would like to turn the call over to JPMorgan Chase’s Chairman and CEO, Jamie Dimon, and Chief Financial Officer, Marianne Lake. Ms. Lake, please go ahead.

Marianne Lake – CFO, JPMorgan Chase & Co

Thank you. Good morning everyone. I’m going to take you through the earnings presentation, which is available on our website. Please refer to the disclaimer regarding forward-looking statements at the back of the presentation.

The firm made a net loss of $380 million for the third quarter, on the back of very significant litigation expenses. So I want to take you first to page two. We’ve added this page for this quarter only, as we want to be as transparent with you as we can be and give you as complete a picture as possible of our litigation reserves and the current perspective on the evolution of our reasonably possible range of losses to litigation. And as you know, as transparent as we would like to be, we are necessarily constrained in what we can actually say.

Having said that, on page two, I’ll start by saying that we appreciate that the litigation expense of $9.2 billion is much more significant than you’ve been expecting. It’s much more significant than we expected until very recently. The reality is that over the last few weeks, the environment has become highly charged and very volatile. Things have been very fluid, and the situation escalated to the point where we’re facing very large premiums and penalties, the level of which has gone far beyond what we reasonably expected. However, those are the facts we’re dealing with today in our reserving actions this quarter and are trying as far as possible to put these issues behind us.

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So let me quickly take you through the table on the top of page two, which is a roll-forward of our reserves. We started 2010 with $3 billion in reserves, added around $28 billion through the third quarter, including the actions this period, and have settled a little less than $8 billion across matters, which leave us with $23 billion approximately of ending reserves, which relate to a broad range of matters and includes a significant reserve for mortgage-related matters, including both securities and repurchase litigation exposure. Remember, our GSE repurchase reserves of over $2 billion are separate from this.

The balance at quarter end reflects the $9.2 billion we’re expensing this quarter. This expense also covers a range of matters, including but not limited to mortgage-backed securities. And the impact from their income you can see is high, as it’s being affected by a portion of the expense estimated to relate to enforcement penalties, which would not be tax deductible.

Again, these estimates relate to a number of cases, including among other things, mortgage, as well as the recently announced CIO settlements. We do expect litigation expenses to normalize over time to much lower levels, but they may be somewhat lumpy quarter over quarter.

Finally, on this page we’ve included a table which shows a revised range of reasonably possible losses. And those are losses that would be in addition to our reserves, and remember, it’s pre-tax. It’s very important to emphasize that when estimating this range, it’s difficult, and there are significant inherent uncertainties and judgments required.

As you can see, this was estimated at $6.8 billion last quarter, and while the range has gone down versus last quarter, it’s only gone down modestly in comparison to reserve adds. Think of it simply as if the estimate of what was reasonably possible back in the second quarter reflected our best assessment of the environment we were in and our best judgment at that time. But as I said, we didn’t — even a few weeks ago — reasonably expect things to have escalated to where they are now. So we have therefore revised our range to better reflect the reality of this current environment, with a range of up to $5.7 billion.

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