Rapid Fire Round – Karan Johar with Sadhguru (Transcript)

Interviewer: Karan Johar, (Indian film director)


Karan Johar: I’m going to take the liberty, Sadhguru, to do what I normally do on my television show, which is a rapid fire round.

Sadhguru: Mhmm…

Karan Johar: Normally the end of this round.

Sadhguru: See, I’ve… When I was young, I watched a lot of, you know, Wild West movies. When you fire, I also fire, all right.

Karan Johar: No, but I promise you, this is not that kind of you are not in my line of fire at all. I will not take the liberty of being that person. These are just quick questions, which when I ask for one word, you have to stick to that because sometimes you have a tendency of not exactly answering the question asked. But you give such a profound and prolific retort back that it makes you very satiated. But in this case, my only request is that if it’s one word, then it’s just one word.

Sadhguru: Okay.

Karan Johar: And the end of this normally, you get a hamper. But in the absence of a hamper here, you already have.

Sadhguru: A cow.

Karan Johar: something right… Yes. So… And… Or this beautiful bouquet that is right next to you. But so there is no hamper but you do, will get my utmost gratitude. Thank you.

Karan Johar: All right, very simply, what is the one thing that is essential to living a balanced life?

Sadhguru: Sense.

Karan Johar: What is the one thing we must absolutely do away with in order to lead a balanced life?

Sadhguru: Senselessness.

Karan Johar: All right, I thought that was coming. First thing that comes to your mind when I say the following – the first thing Organized religion.

Sadhguru: Madness

Karan Johar: Marriage.

Sadhguru: Cohabitation.

Karan Johar: Competition.

Sadhguru: Stupid.

Karan Johar: Money.

Sadhguru: Useful.

Karan Johar: Love.

Sadhguru: Can I say a sentence?

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Karan Johar: Yes. I will allow that.

Sadhguru: Most beautiful but unfortunately crippling for most people. If I can little elaborate that. See, if something unpleasant cripples you, something nasty cripples you, it’s acceptable. When something beautiful cripples you, it’s a true disaster.

Karan Johar: If you could ask one person alive or dead, one question, who would you ask and what would that be?

Sadhguru: I really sorted out all my questions because I did not spend time educating myself or doing anything, I spent my entire life sorting out every damn question. I had, I kind of run out of questions.

Karan Johar: And you certainly have not run out of any answers and you never will. Best advice you have ever received?

Sadhguru: Nothing.

Karan Johar: Never?

Sadhguru: No I never sought, nor did I receive. I made myself in such a way, I’m incapable either of seeking advice or giving advice.

Karan Johar: In an imaginary, completely hypothetical situation, if you had a day off with no commitments, no responsibilities, what would you spend the day doing?

Sadhguru: Oh! There’re lot of things, this can’t be one word.

Karan Johar:  No, it’s not one word.

Sadhguru: See, I have an indiscriminate sense of passion towards everything. There were lots and lots of things I did at one time but these days, time is not allowing me to do that. So generally if I have little time, all I do is play golf because that’s safe and within the city and I can get back in time for something else to be done. But if an entire day is left to me – which they have not done for a long time, they’ve not left it to me – if that happens, I will close my eyes and sit because that is my the best — the best I am at my best when I truly have nothing to do.

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Karan Johar: What is one thing you’d like people to remember about you at the end of your life?

Sadhguru: They must live so wonderfully that they don’t even remember me.

Karan Johar: If you found a way to travel through time, where would you go?

Sadhguru: I’m kind of done with all those things.

Karan Johar: You’re universe visited already, you have visas for every part of this ecosystem.

Sadhguru: If we can do some slow fire.

Karan Johar: Yeah.

Sadhguru: Because that’s a question with many ramifications. This, for example, traveling in the world, we’ve jetted around and now we want to travel to the Mars, we want to travel to another place. And now that’s not enough, we want to travel into the past and future. All this longing is again exploratory in nature.

Whether you go on vacation to Maldives or you want to go to Mars, it is fundamentally exploratory. Maybe you’re also thinking of relaxation and pleasure and whatever, but essentially it’s exploratory, otherwise why can’t you do it here? It’s something that you want to do, you want to touch another place. This longing is there in the human being only as long as the life that you are remains in a seed form, that is, it did not sprout and blossom. This happened when Adiyogi was expounding the science of yoga and talking about the nature of the cosmos, how it’s related to your individual self and what you can do with it, then the seven sages who were with him, they asked, “What is the nature of this cosmos? How big is it? Where does it begin, where does it end?” So he laughed and said, “Your entire cosmos, I can pack it into a mustard seed.”

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