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What Causes Wellness: Sir Harry Burns (Transcript)

Here is the full transcript of Sir Harry Burns’ talk titled “What Causes Wellness” at TEDxGlasgow 2014 conference.

Listen to the audio version here:

TRANSCRIPT:

Okay, the title of this session is the Commonwealth and like Catherine and Cam Donaldson earlier on, I thought I would play around with the title because the Commonwealth has connotations of money and riches and economic growth and to be perfectly honest I’m fed up hearing about it. So that’s what I thought we’d talk about, the Commonwealth, well as in wellness.

Adam Smith talked about this, not in his book “The Wealth of Nations” but in the book he wrote a few years earlier, what was it called again, “The Theory of Moral Sentiments,” in which he talked about the fact that there is something in us that requires us to see the happiness of others even although we derive no profit from it except the pleasure of seeing it.

He said that at one end of the scale he saw people behaving for their own good in terms of their involvement with the market and at the other end of the scale he saw people behaving for the good of others and there’s clearly a spectrum between either end. He said even the greatest ruffian, the most abject violator of the laws of society is subject to this notion of sympathy he called it. He didn’t actually mention bankers but I guess they’re probably in there somewhere. So what I thought I would do is to pose the question what causes wellness? What is it that creates wellness in society?

Pathogenesis vs. Salutogenesis

What is it that makes us well? And you’re probably sitting there thinking, stupid question, isn’t this guy a doctor? Doesn’t he know that what causes wellness is avoiding the causes of illness? Doesn’t he know that what makes us well is not being sick?

Well it’s fair enough for you to believe that because we have for the last 100, 150 years been brainwashed into thinking that what matters is not being ill. But the reality is there is a spectrum here just as there was in Adam Smith’s thinking about well-being and wealth. There’s a spectrum between pathogenesis at one end and salutogenesis at the other.

Doctors are trained exclusively in pathogenic thought. The causes of disease, we’re trained to diagnose it. We’re trained to take histories to detect it. We’re trained to treat it. We’re trained to even sometimes if we go into public health try and find ways of preventing it. That’s a disease focus.

Salutogenesis and the Roman Goddess Salus

Salutogenesis on the other hand is a term that comes from Salus. Salus was the Roman goddess of well-being. Also interestingly the Roman goddess of safety. Interesting combination of thought there. The idea that there is a spectrum first occurred to me best part of 30 years ago when I went to work in the Royal Infirmary as a surgeon. I was there for about two weeks and I noticed something strange.

Healing Time Differences

They took longer to heal their wounds than the East End. All the hospitals I’d worked in previously if you did an abdominal incision by about eight to ten days it was healed up and they could go home. In the Royal it was about 10, 11 days. Subtle but it wasn’t just me.

Others had noticed it and we put it down to the fact that well they smoke more, they eat the wrong kinds of food and so on. That will slow down healing. But over the next few years it became very plain to me that that wasn’t the cause.

Factors Beyond Smoking and Diet

And since then, in the last 25 years, our analysis has shown that, now don’t get me wrong, smoking is very very bad for you. If anyone here smokes stop it at once. But we cannot ascribe the gap between rich and poor to the commonly held beliefs of smoking, fatty diet. These have an effect but they don’t explain nearly enough of it.

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Salutogenic Theories

So I began to look for other theories that would begin to explain what it is that was missing in the lives of people in the poorest and the poorest parliamentary constituencies in Britain that had the lowest life expectancy. What was it that they didn’t have that others had? And that’s when I stumbled on the notion of salutogenesis.

And I’ll just mention one or two theories. Emily Verner, for example, is a psychologist who studied the health of children living in a particular island in the Hawaiian archipelago where there was a high level of alcoholism, child abuse, just general chaos in life. She found that 70 percent of the children grew up to have serious difficulties, followed their parents into these particular patterns of living.

Resilience

But 30 percent of them survived and did well. And what she said was they acquired resilience. And what allowed them to acquire resilience was they had developed the positive attributes. They were outgoing, positive, optimistic, bright.

They had a significant relationship with a sensible adult who might have been a parent or a grandparent, but there was a mentor there to help them. And they received support within the community from their peers.

Viktor Frankl and Meaning

Another theory came from Viktor Frankl. Viktor Frankl was an Austrian psychotherapist who spent the war years in Auschwitz. And he wrote a book, he went on to live till he was 95, he wrote a book entitled “Man’s Search for Meaning.”

And the introduction to it, he says, “If you have a why to live, you can bear with almost any how.” Meaning and purpose allows you to hang on to life and make the best of it, no matter how miserable the circumstances are. And if you think about the way meaning and purpose in life began to disappear in West Central Scotland when the shipyards closed, when the steel foundries disappeared, when men suddenly had no jobs that gave their lives meaning and purpose.

Another notion is the notion of flourishing.