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What I Learned as a Kid in Jail: Ismael Nazario at TEDxNewYork (Transcript)

Ismael Nazario

Ismael Nazario – Prison Reform Advocate

We need to change the culture in our jails and prisons, especially for young inmates. New York state is one of only two in the U.S. that automatically arrests and tries 16- to 17-year-olds as adults. This culture of violence takes these young people and puts them in a hostile environment, and the correctional officers pretty much allow any and everything to go on. There’s not really much for these young people to do to actually enhance their talent and actually rehabilitate them. Until we can raise the age of criminal responsibility to 18, we need to focus on changing the daily lives of these young people. I know firsthand.

Before I ever turned 18, I spent approximately 400 days on Rikers Island, and to add to that I spent almost 300 days in solitary confinement, and let me tell you this: Screaming at the top of your lungs all day on your cell door or screaming at the top of your lungs out the window, it gets tiring. Since there’s not much for you to do while you’re in there, you start pacing back and forth in your cell, you start talking to yourself, your thoughts start running wild, and then your thoughts become your own worst enemy. Jails are actually supposed to rehabilitate a person, not cause him or her to become more angry, frustrated, and feel more hopeless.

Since there’s not a discharge plan put in place for these young people, they pretty much reenter society with nothing. And there’s not really much for them to do to keep them from recidivating. But it all starts with the COs. It’s very easy for some people to look at these correctional officers as the good guys and the inmates as the bad guys, or vice versa for some, but it’s a little more than that.

See, these COs are normal, everyday people.