Why We Get Mad – And Why It’s Healthy: Ryan Martin (Transcript)

Ryan Martin at TED Talks

Ryan Martin – TED Talk TRANSCRIPT

All right. So I want you to imagine that you get a text from a friend, and it reads: “You will NOT believe what just happened. I’m SO MAD right now!”

So you do the dutiful thing as a friend, and you ask for details. And they tell you a story about what happened to them at the gym or at work or on their date last night.

And you listen and you try to understand why they’re so mad. Maybe even secretly judge whether or not they should be so mad.

And maybe you even offer some suggestions.

Now, in that moment, you are doing essentially what I get to do every day, because I’m an anger researcher. And as an anger researcher, I spend a good part of my professional life — who am I kidding, also my personal life — studying why people get mad.


I study the types of thoughts they have when they get mad, and I even study what they do when they get mad, whether it’s getting into fights or breaking things, or even yelling at people in all caps on the internet.

And as you can imagine, when people hear I’m an anger researcher, they want to talk to me about their anger, they want to share with me their anger stories.

And it’s not because they need a therapist, though that does sometimes happen, it’s really because anger is universal. It’s something we all feel and it’s something they can relate to. We’ve been feeling it since the first few months of life, when we didn’t get what we wanted in our cries of protests, things like, “What do you mean you won’t pick up the rattle, Dad, I want it!”


We feel it throughout our teenage years, as my mom can certainly attest to with me. Sorry, Mom. We feel it to the very end.

In fact, anger has been with us at some of the worst moments of our lives. It’s a natural and expected part of our grief.


But it’s also been with us in some of the best moments of our lives, with those special occasions like weddings and vacations often marred by these everyday frustrations — bad weather, travel delays — that feel horrible in the moment, but then are ultimately forgotten when things go OK.

I have a lot of conversations with people about their anger and it’s through those conversations that I’ve learned that many people, and I bet many people in this room right now, you see anger as a problem.

You see the way it interferes in your life, the way it damages relationships, maybe even the ways it’s scary. And while I get all of that, I see anger a little differently, and today, I want to tell you something really important about your anger, and it’s this: anger is a powerful and healthy force in your life. It’s good that you feel it. You need to feel it.


But to understand all that, we actually have to back up and talk about why we get mad in the first place. A lot of this goes back to the work of an anger researcher named Dr. Jerry Deffenbacher, who wrote about this back in 1996 in a book chapter on how to deal with problematic anger.

Now, for most of us, and I bet most of you, it feels as simple as this: I get mad when I’m provoked. You hear it in the language people use. They say things like, “It makes me so mad when people drive this slow,” or, “I got mad because she left the milk out again.”


Or my favorite, “I don’t have an anger problem — people just need to stop messing with me.”

Now, in the spirit of better understanding those types of provocations, I ask a lot of people, including my friends and colleagues and even family, “What are the things that really get to you? What makes you mad?”

By the way, now is a good time to point out one of the advantages of being an anger researcher is that I’ve spent more than a decade generating a comprehensive list of all the things that really irritate my colleagues. Just in case I need it.


But their answers are fascinating, because they say things like, “when my sports team loses,” “people who chew too loudly.” That is surprisingly common, by the way.

“People who walk too slowly,” that one’s mine. And of course, “roundabouts.”


Roundabouts — I can tell you honestly, there is no rage like roundabout rage.

Sometimes their answers aren’t minor at all. Sometimes they talk about racism and sexism and bullying and environmental destruction — big, global problems we all face.

But sometimes, their answers are very specific, maybe even oddly specific. “That wet line you get across your shirt when you accidentally lean against the counter of a public bathroom.” Super gross, right?

Or “Flash drives: there’s only two ways to plug them in, so why does it always take me three tries?”

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