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TRANSCRIPT: Will the End of Economic Growth Come by Design — or Disaster? – Gaya Herrington

Read the full transcript of environmentalist and economist Gaya Herrington’s talk titled “Will the End of Economic Growth Come by Design — or Disaster?” at TED Talks 2024 conference.

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TRANSCRIPT:

The Concept of “Enough” and Economic Transformation

Let’s contemplate the word “enough,” because I think it will play an important role going forward. When I watch the news or scroll my feeds, I keep coming back to the same questions. Why, despite all our knowledge and innovation, do problems like poverty and pollution keep plaguing humanity? Why, despite astonishing advances in renewable energy and resource efficiency, is fossil fuel use at an all-time high, as is our global ecological footprint? And why, despite being responsible for the main part of that footprint, have rich countries been experiencing stagnating, if not decreasing, well-being?

I’m a sustainability researcher with a background in econometrics, and I believe the answer lies in the fact that solving poverty, caring for nature or fostering well-being is not the ultimate goal of our current economic system. Its goal is growth.

The Historical Context of Growth

Many take this for granted. But growth wasn’t considered a moral goal for most of history. It was only officially measured around the middle of last century through GDP. It then shifted into the core of our economic thinking and from there into policymaking and our collective psyche. Growth became synonymous with progress.

Things went fast after that. Extinction rates went up, resource use and waste exploded. Some warned early on about the dangers of exponential growth on a finite planet.

The Limits to Growth Study

In 1972, a team of MIT scientists created a first-of-its-kind world model consisting of over 200 interconnected variables. With it, they analyzed the question I mentioned earlier: why problems like poverty and pollution persist.