In this episode of Judging Freedom, Judge Andrew Napolitano and Max Blumenthal of The Grayzone break down Israel’s deadlocked election, why Gadi Eisenkot’s Change Bloc couldn’t get past Netanyahu, and why Max thinks a third round of war with Iran is close to inevitable after the US midterms. They also cover Maria Corina Machado’s return to Venezuela, Delcy Rodríguez’s turn to campaigning, life in Tehran under the US naval blockade, and whether Jair Bolsonaro is now a US intelligence asset. Read the full transcript of this interview below:
Who Will Rule Israel After the Election?
JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: (00:01:04 – 00:01:30) Hi everyone, Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom. Today is Thursday, October 29th, 2026. Max Blumenthal joins us now. Max, thank you very much. A lot to ask you about, especially your exclusive interview with the mayor of Tehran. But before we get there, what is your take on the Israeli elections and who do you think will be ruling Israel?
MAX BLUMENTHAL: (00:01:31 – 00:08:15) Yeah, just to clarify, I just spoke to the international affairs director and spokesman for the office of the Tehran municipality because I wanted to talk about the impact of the US naval blockade on Iran and what comes next. And so we’ll talk about that.
But your question on the Israeli election, it’s one of the more difficult election results to unpack. The 2009 election in Israel sort of inspired me to begin work on my book, Goliath, which you can see behind me. And because it represented a permanent transition in Israeli society to the right, to a messianic form of Zionism, and Netanyahu was sort of occupying the center. And since then, my theory has been proven correct.
Netanyahu is the longest-serving prime minister in Israeli history, and he still is at the helm after an election in which many outside observers, pollsters, thought that the Change Bloc represented by former IDF Chief of Staff Gadi Eisenkot would actually overtake Netanyahu. But there was never any real clear path to victory for them. Because of the Zionism at the core of Eisenkot’s plank and the coalition partners that he had.
Avigdor Lieberman, who is an extreme anti-Palestinian racist who represents the extremely secular Russian community, which also won’t coalition with any Arab parties and won’t coalition with any Haredi or ultra-Orthodox parties. Then you have Naftali Bennett, who is also a man of the right, more of a religious nationalist, and both Lieberman and Bennett come out of Likud.
Netanyahu’s base of support within the Knesset has shrunk. He’s down to 52 seats. He was at something like 63. It’s shrunk even as he incorporated someone who was once thought of as a potential successor from within Likud, Gideon Sa’ar, into his party. So in some ways, this is sort of a setback for the right. Another right-wing party that represents the Mizrahi population of Israel, Shas, lost 100,000 votes.
Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich, the real hardcore messianic fascists in Netanyahu’s coalition, They lost a little bit of ground. They didn’t do as well as expected, and the right sort of consolidated around Likud, but then Eisenkot didn’t do as well as expected either, or the Change Bloc.
Who did very well? It’s the Arab parties. Palestinian citizens of Israel, who are 1/5 of the population, came out in large numbers to try to oust Netanyahu and his bloc because they are so viciously anti-Arab and have been seeking to strip them of public benefits.
And now Netanyahu is trying to do 2 things. He’s trying to delegitimize the vote by declaring that these Arab parties are actually instruments of foreign interference and that there was all sorts of fraud at the polls. He sent out Likud thugs to intimidate them at the polls and it didn’t work. They have, I think, a combined 19 seats, which is enormous.
He’s trying to do that. He’s also trying to encourage Lieberman and Bennett, and this is sort of the message I took away from his election night speech, which came very late, trying to convince them to unite with him against the Arab parties and against the Arab bloc.
And at the same time, You have Gadi Eisenkot, who will not, under any circumstance, work with any of the Arab parties because he has this condition that you must be Zionist and you must call Hamas a terrorist group. And in Israel, if you officially call Hamas a terrorist group, you are giving the green light for the Israeli military to totally destroy Gaza. That’s what it actually means in practice. So even the more conservative Arab parties like Ra’am won’t do this. And so everything is sort of at a stalemate.
So where do we go from here? You have Netanyahu activating his Shin Bet director, David Zini, who is himself a Zionist religious nationalist figure who’s very political, very ideological, who supported, reportedly supported attacking Iran in order to influence election results, which Netanyahu may have been considering. He’s actually trying to investigate the Arab parties and prove that the vote was illegitimate.
So Netanyahu is activating the security chiefs. He could next try to activate the military in a very political decision. In order to attack Iran, and this would be more likely, I think, if he just has this caretaker government and there’s this uncertainty and imbalance.
It is exactly what I said last week in our last conversation, Judge, which is that Netanyahu would use an attack on Iran in order to force unity among all of the figures who came out of Likud and possibly even Gadi Eisenkot himself, who served momentarily for a couple months in a unity kind of war room style emergency government with Netanyahu after October 7th, which gave Netanyahu a life raft after this humiliating security failure and attack.
So I think we’re in a very dangerous time. Trump doesn’t want this attack now because midterms are coming up and it will hurt the Republicans to have an attack before the midterms.
But after the midterms, with Netanyahu facing so much uncertainty and because of just the nature of Israel’s political system and the underpinning ideology of Zionism, I think a 3rd round of conflict with Iran becomes almost inevitable.
Can Gadi Eisenkot Build a 61-Seat Coalition?
JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: (00:08:17 – 00:08:44) General Keith Kellogg, who’s sort of the Itamar Ben-Gvir of Trump’s inner circle said, “Don’t be surprised if the attack comes the day after Election Day,” which would be next Wednesday. But I do want to ask you about General Eisenkot. Does he stand a numerical and practical and feasible chance of putting together a coalition of 61 Knesset seats?
MAX BLUMENTHAL: (00:08:47 – 00:10:48) Feasible. It’s right there for him. So another figure in his coalition is Yair Golan from the so-called Democrats. He comes out of the Meretz Party, which is Israel’s version of the Green Party. They’re the furthest left you can go within the Zionist spectrum, but because Israeli society has gone so far to the right, the Democrats of Yair Golan are a right-wing Meretz, or maybe they stand where the old Labor Party that no longer exists used to.
And he’s calling for coalitioning with some of the Arab parties in order to completely oust Netanyahu, and nobody else will accept this within the Change Bloc. No one else will accept that, especially Eisenkot, who had more Arab and Palestinian blood on his hands than Netanyahu going up to October 7th, prior to October 7th.
Then you have the Haredi parties, the ultra-Orthodox parties. What do they want? They’re not Zionist. They’re not anti-Zionist like I am, but what they want is an exception from the draft, a permanent exception, a bill to be passed or a permanent guarantee that their young men can spend their time studying Torah and continue to extract state benefits without going into the Israeli army.
And United Torah Judaism, which is one of their most important parties, has just offered to coalition with Gadi Eisenkot. They only have 7 seats, so it won’t quite put him over the top, but Bennett and Lieberman, Avigdor Lieberman especially, will not coalition with them because Lieberman’s base, I mean, they all serve in the military. They’re totally secular. The Russian-Israeli population, they’re so secular that some of them have even set up covert churches inside Israel. There was a story—
JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: (00:10:48 – 00:10:50) What kind of churches, Orthodox?
MAX BLUMENTHAL: (00:10:50 – 00:11:07) Orthodox churches, yes. They did not come over with any, many of them came with no Jewish religion. So the way they see the ultra-Orthodox is like an enemy synonymous with the Islamic Republic of Iran. So they’re not going to coalition with these people.
Netanyahu’s Fraud Claims Against Arab Voters
JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: (00:11:08 – 00:11:20) Is there any evidence whatsoever to substantiate Netanyahu’s bitter complaints that somehow the Arab numbers were inflated or were the basis of cheating or deception?
MAX BLUMENTHAL: (00:11:21 – 00:11:32) No, but I actually wouldn’t be able to decisively say because I wasn’t there. I wasn’t a vote observer. But. Right. It sort of—
JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: (00:11:32 – 00:11:37) Well, has Netanyahu produced any evidence to substantiate his claims?
MAX BLUMENTHAL: (00:11:37 – 00:12:45) No, he’s just muddying the waters and seeking to delegitimize them as he always does. I mean, before every election, Netanyahu comes out like a Jewish version of Strom Thurmond or George Wallace and warns that the Arabs are coming out in large numbers, the buses full of Arabs are coming to the polls, and he does this to get his base out.
And it worked this time, actually. That was Netanyahu’s closing message. “The Arabs are coming, the Arabs are coming.” And so you need to drive out your racist base as much as possible.
It’s sort of analogous to the messaging of the Republican Party, especially around swing state elections like Michigan and Abdul El-Sayed, which is, “The Muslim Brotherhood is going to take over.” And what they’re trying to do is ignite their base. They’re not actually trying to reach outside their base. They’re just trying to make sure that everyone’s sufficiently afraid and hysterical enough who voted for Trump in 2024 to come out and vote this time because, so this is it. But here’s where I think this goes, Judge, and this is—
The Shin Bet and the Future of the Arab Vote in Israel
JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: (00:12:45 – 00:12:48) That’s just what I was going to ask you. What does your gut tell you?
MAX BLUMENTHAL: (00:12:48 – 00:14:47) Well, it’s looking forward past this election and maybe into the somewhat distant future. Is if you’re getting this level of collaboration from the Shin Bet, which used to be controlled by the gatekeepers who were very wary or hostile to the settlement movement and represented the old kind of Ashkenazi elite establishment that was more tied to labor or was more centrist and was totally focused just on Israel’s national security interests rather than messianic ideology.
Now you have a figure like David Zini there, who is just a full-on ideologue connected to Netanyahu, and they’re focused on trying to prove that this record Arab vote was a scam. You’re looking at in the future not just sort of the rhetorical delegitimization of Palestinian citizens of Israel voting, but actually barring them from voting. Through real measures, disqualifying their candidates going forward.
Already one candidate from the Balad Party, which is a sort of a Palestinian party in Israel that calls for a state of all its citizens, Sami Abu Shahada, was already banned. So the more of these figures get banned, that means that it’s completely impossible for any opposition to the right, and a figure like Itamar Ben-Gvir could then surge to winning enough seats to become defense minister or even prime minister.
And that’s when I think we’re going to see a real, another transition where you have a sort of right-wing Israel right now that’s uncertain about its survival to a fascist theocratic state of Judea, which is fighting its final suicidal battle in a high-tech Masada.
JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: (00:14:48 – 00:14:59) Are any of— this may sound weird— are any of the elected Arabs in that 19, I think you said you thought the number was around 19, Jewish?
MAX BLUMENTHAL: (00:15:02 – 00:15:32) Yeah, there’s one guy from Balad whose name isn’t coming to me right now. I might think of it in a second. But he is an anti-Zionist from the Balad Party who is a Jewish Israeli. And he is sort of a unique figure who the Central Election Commission has— I believe they have attempted to invalidate him and prevent him from running, but have failed to do so so far.
Maria Corina Machado’s Return to Venezuela
JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: (00:15:33 – 00:15:59) Wow. Okay, let’s move over to this hemisphere. What is the significance in your view of this very highly publicized, almost monumental return of Maria Machado to Venezuela? And could this possibly have happened without the approval of the US government and intelligence services?
MAX BLUMENTHAL: (00:16:00 – 00:17:39) I gotta mentally reset here. Right. There’s kind of a crossover. So Maria Corina Machado was being set up to be the successor to Nicolás Maduro following regime change, but then Marco Rubio and his mentor, whose name I’m forgetting right now, who is kind of fashioning himself, Mauricio Claver-Carone, as the Jared Kushner of Venezuela, they came up with this bright plan.
It actually was a pretty clever plan to keep Chavistas in charge at gunpoint, at least ostensible Chavistas like Delcy Rodríguez and her brother Jorge, and have them basically sign every deal that the US would want at gunpoint without replacing them and replacing the entire security infrastructure presided over by Diosdado Cabello. That would mean you don’t have instability, you don’t have bloodshed, you just have to spirit Maduro out.
This is what’s raised so many suspicions about a potential deal within the Chavista elite to remove Maduro. Okay, so they got that done. But all of this pressure starts coming down from Machado and her people who are so powerful within the South Florida, Gusano world of the Cuban mafia, the Venezuelan émigré population there.
JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: (00:17:39 – 00:17:41) So this is Rubio’s world, is it not?
MAX BLUMENTHAL: (00:17:42 – 00:21:43) And it’s Rubio’s world, but it’s also the world of Rick Scott. It’s the world of DeSantis. It’s the world of Trump who’s in Mar-a-Lago. But it’s also the world of Democrats. Debbie Wasserman Schultz. It’s the world of Democrats on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee who, they believe in promoting democracy. And so what they wanted, so the pressure is bipartisan on Rubio to have Venezuela appear democratic.
So they get the big oil deal done where Venezuela agrees, Delcy Rodríguez agrees at gunpoint to sell oil at below market value, 1/5 of Venezuela’s oil reserves, for eternity to the US. And then the call for elections comes from Tim Kaine from the Democrats and Bernie Moreno, who is himself, I think, Cuban, from Ohio. So it’s a bipartisan call.
Rubio admits that he sent Maria Corina Machado back, even though Donald Trump has said he doesn’t like her because he considers her to provide a possible recipe for instability. Trump would prefer a regime in Venezuela that gives him whatever he wants. And so now there’s this call for Venezuela to hold elections by 2027, but not just that, to replace the entire Supreme Court and the Central Election Council. It’s another brazen neocolonial demand.
Delcy Rodríguez Goes Into Campaign Mode
And this has sent Delcy Rodríguez into an uncomfortable situation where she’s had to go into campaign mode. She held a rally in the city of Carabobo, which is significant because the Battle of Carabobo was where Simón Bolívar defeated the Spanish colonial forces in a decisive battle. So it’s sort of symbolic.
But the Chavistas bus in a lot of their supporters from the outside, which created a lot of negative media. Delcy Rodríguez was on stage dancing, which was an unusual sort of theater for her. It didn’t look like she was actually enjoying herself as authentically as Maduro did when he was dancing at big rallies. She’s much more comfortable being a communicator behind a desk, a shot caller, someone who’s in control of the economic levers and being the boss lady.
And today she delivered another speech which was clearly aimed at the US, basically promising elections. The optics were significant. Again, she was wearing an all-white suit. That is Maria Corina Machado’s trademark outfit. And Delcy Rodríguez, here’s what she said, which I found really significant and somewhat disturbing. She said, “A transformation of this magnitude, if it’s not led by someone with experience and the real capacity to carry it out, remains just on paper. I come from the system that we are transforming and changing. I don’t hide it. I turn that background into a strength.”
So she’s saying, “I’m Maria Corina Machado, but I know how to do what you want her to do better than her,” which is to basically transform Venezuela from a kind of nationalist, socialist-oriented economic system that would channel oil sales into kind of a, to spread social democracy, transition it from that to a neoliberal system where the US is basically able to get whatever it wants, as it’s doing in Argentina.
That’s her appeal, and that’s extremely disturbing. And it also doesn’t bode well for her if there are elections because the Chavista base doesn’t want neoliberalism. They want Chavismo. And so what does she have to offer them?
Life in Tehran Under the US Naval Blockade
JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: (00:21:44 – 00:22:05) Wow. Let me ask you about your interview with the official from the mayor’s office. How are things in Tehran? How do small, if you know, businesses cope under the heel of American sanctions and naval blockades?
MAX BLUMENTHAL: (00:22:06 – 00:23:58) Yeah, this is a story I wasn’t seeing covered a lot, but when I talked to contacts in Iran, the first thing they tell me is, “The inflation is hurting us.” And the inflation, it’s a macroeconomic problem which has been imposed through the US naval blockade which is preventing oil exports and oil imports and all sorts of imports known as Operation Economic Outcast.
And the Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent is overseeing it. They’re aiming to cause inflation in order to cause internal instability and riots like we saw in January, and to just rip Iranian society to shreds.
So I spoke to Hamid Gholamzadeh, who is the director of international affairs and the spokesman for the Tehran municipality. I’d interviewed his boss, who is the mayor of Tehran, Alireza Zakani, back in July. And what Gholamzadeh told me is they’ve actually implemented a new 6-month program called “Zero Inflation,” the Zero Inflation Initiative. Which provides electronic food coupons for all sorts of citizens in Tehran, which they can use at chain stores.
There are various other efforts to combat inflation, but the main thing is making sure people get basic food and basic goods at very low prices wherever they live, and to prevent hunger. And the problem isn’t that their goods aren’t available. The problem is that the Iranian currency is increasingly worth less than ever before.
JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: (00:24:00 – 00:24:00) We—
MAX BLUMENTHAL: (00:24:00 – 00:25:33) He doesn’t see— and this also echoes what I’m hearing from people who are just common citizens living in Tehran. He doesn’t see the recipe for social unrest right now, regime change riots. Others I spoke to said it would have to be artificial and orchestrated from the outside for it to happen.
What is taking place in Tehran at Enghelab Square, this major square in the center of Tehran, in Tajrish Square in North Tehran, are still popular mobilization rallies every night where the public is coming out every night to rally in support of the government. And this is another thing that will prevent regime change riots and mass social unrest. It was just the population being out in the streets and showing unity.
I asked him about the possibility of a US-Israeli attack after the US midterms or sometime in the near future. He agreed with me that this is very, very likely. He believes that it will be a decisive setback for the US. And that if the U.S. deploys, fulfills Donald Trump’s threats, if the U.S. military fulfills these threats by dropping the mother of all bombs, for example, or by deploying a tactical nuclear weapon to attack Pickaxe Mountain, that would lead to the removal of the fatwa against the production of a nuclear weapon by Iran, and Iran would retaliate in kind, or at least produce a nuclear weapon in the open.
Is Bolsonaro a CIA Asset?
JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: (00:25:34 – 00:25:45) Wow. Now I apologize for going back and forth, back and forth geographically. I have to ask you about Bolsonaro in Brazil. Is he a CIA asset?
MAX BLUMENTHAL: (00:25:46 – 00:27:23) Well, whether he was or not, he is now. He’s positioned in Miami. Yeah, I mean, he released a statement which I thought was strange on letterhead or with a symbol that did not belong to Brazil, where he basically declared that upon his arrival to Miami, he will become the next Juan Guaidó. He actually explicitly compared himself to Maria Corina Machado and Juan Guaidó and said that he will lead the opposition to Lula da Silva’s presidency from Miami.
This statement was published by Simón Levy, who is a right-wing Mexican political operative who I believe is working with Rubio’s State Department now. So it seems to have the official approval of the Trump administration.
And when you look at the State Department, I mean, I’ve always said the State Department functions as cover for the CIA in countries where the US seeks regime change. I mean, everyone there knows that. Marco Rubio sort of let the cat out of the bag when last week he called for Cubans to discreetly, and he misspelled discreet, to discreetly contact the CIA and ask the CIA for instructions. This is the Secretary of State.
So if Bolsonaro is operating under Rubio’s, within his network, then yeah, to your question, he basically is a US intelligence asset at this point.
When Will the Tehran Interview Be Published?
JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: (00:27:24 – 00:27:38) Wow. Max, thank you very much. You’ve taken us 2/3 of the way around the globe with your analysis. Deeply appreciated. Will you publish the interview with the official from the Tehran mayor’s office?
MAX BLUMENTHAL: (00:27:38 – 00:27:48) As soon as I get the file. I had to use an app. It’s hard to use all the apps we normally use with Iranian interviews. So as soon as I get the file, it’ll be up.
JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: (00:27:48 – 00:27:54) We’ll all look for it. We’ll all look for it at The Grayzone. Thanks for your time, Max. Deeply appreciate it. All the best to you, my friend.
MAX BLUMENTHAL: (00:27:54 – 00:27:56) Thanks a lot, Judge. Sure.
JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: (00:27:57 – 00:28:11) Coming up next, if you’re watching us live, in 15 minutes at 2 o’clock Eastern, Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, and then at 3 o’clock Eastern, Colonel Douglas Macgregor. Judge Napolitano for Judging Freedom.
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