Sharon Osbourne’s Interview on Piers Morgan Uncensored (Transcript)

Because it was brilliant to watch. We were watching him in that throne. It was just… it was magic. And I couldn’t have thought of a more brilliant way for Ozzy to bow to live performing, surrounded by his mates, his family in the wings, tens of thousands of fans who come from all over the world. A perfect show in many ways. And the bow and the throne and how he bowed.

SHARON OSBOURNE: He just wanted it so bad to say thank you to everyone. And I think he honestly did know that… he was done. It was his time.

PIERS MORGAN: So he knew that if he went ahead with the show, it would probably kill him.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah.

PIERS MORGAN: But he decided, I’m doing it. What a way to go.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah.

PIERS MORGAN: And in a way, I mean, it was, wasn’t it?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah.

PIERS MORGAN: I mean, I don’t know how you feel, given how painful it’s been to lose him, but when you look back at that show, do you feel it was the perfect way out for Ozzy?

SHARON OSBOURNE: He was so happy, Piers afterwards, and he kept looking at the papers and he goes to me, “I never knew so many people like me,” but that was the way he was. I mean, he knew he was famous, but not to the amount that people loved him. It’s a whole different thing.

PIERS MORGAN: Yes.

SHARON OSBOURNE: And he was just so happy. So, so happy. And for two weeks, he was, you know, really, like every day was sunshine for him. He was really, really happy. Yeah. So happy. Happier than we’d seen him in seven years. Really?

PIERS MORGAN: I love that.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah.

An Outpouring of Love

PIERS MORGAN: Because it was an amazing outpouring of love around the world, though. It was like an enormous thing. I remember posting a picture on Instagram about it before the show, and I was amazed by the reaction. It just blew up.

And I suddenly realized, you know, I sort of taken for granted because I knew him so well, that I took for granted how big Ozzy was as a rock star, how famous he was. But I think you’re right. I hadn’t factored in how much people loved him, and they really, really loved him. And that day was like an outpouring of love from as it was when he died. I mean, the scenes after he died were extraordinary.

SHARON OSBOURNE: It was unbelievable. It was like when we drove into Birmingham, I mean, we were just like… the whole family, we were just like, oh, wow, look at this. He was just… again, people loved him. He made people happy and people knew he was authentic.

He wasn’t pretending to be, you know, Mr. Big or, you know, I’m bigger than you. He was genuinely happy for all his friends when his friends were successful, and he just was happy with his place in life and he didn’t want any more, he didn’t want any less, but he was really, really happy at what he’d done in his life.

PIERS MORGAN: Was he amazed he lasted as long as he did, given the wild excess he put his body through?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah.

PIERS MORGAN: I mean, to live to… what was he, 76?

SHARON OSBOURNE: 76.

PIERS MORGAN: I mean, you could have got good odds in Vegas that Ozzy Osbourne would not make it to 76.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Absolutely, absolutely. And I, you know, I used to think to myself when we were going to, you know, we went everywhere, Piers, to try and get him fixed, you know, it was like… trick doctors that had different machines. And, you know, I would do anything in the hope that something could help, but nothing could. But he…

I would say to him, you know, we’re blessed. We are blessed to still be together at this point because of what you’ve done to your body. “Me? What have I done?” You know, like, what are you talking about?

You know, oh, you only smoked like 50 cigarettes a day for, you know, 50 years. You know, drank the breweries dry. But he did it his way and that’s it.

The Dreams and the Final Night

PIERS MORGAN: What were your last conversations with him like?

SHARON OSBOURNE: He… told me that he was having dreams the last week of his life.

PIERS MORGAN: Excuse me.

SHARON OSBOURNE: He was seeing people that he never knew and they were… I said, “Well, what kind of people?” He goes, “All different people. And I just keep walking and walking and I’m seeing all these different people every night. And I go back there and I’m looking at these people and they’re looking at me and nobody’s talking.”

And he knew he was ready.

PIERS MORGAN: How extraordinary. And they were really vivid dreams.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Really, really vivid dreams. The night he… well, the night before he passed, he, you know, up and down to the bathroom all night and it was like 4:30. And he said… “Wake up.” “Already bloody awake. You’ve woken me up.”

And he said, “Kiss me.” And then he said, “Hug me tight.”

PIERS MORGAN: Was that the last…

SHARON OSBOURNE: He used to get up early and he would say, “I’ve got to go down and work out.” And he went downstairs. Worked out for 20 minutes and passed away.

The Moment Everything Changed

PIERS MORGAN: He just had a heart attack?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah.

PIERS MORGAN: How did you find out? How did you know?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Screaming in the house. And I ran downstairs and there he was, and they were trying to resuscitate him. And I’m like, “Don’t leave him. Leave him. You can’t.”

He’s gone. I knew instantly he’s gone. And they tried and tried, and then they took him by helicopter to the hospital and they tried, and it’s like, he’s gone. Just leave him.

PIERS MORGAN: What were you thinking?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Fear. Regrets. Just… I couldn’t… I couldn’t function.

PIERS MORGAN: What were the regrets?

SHARON OSBOURNE: I should have, could have, would have. If only I’d have told him I loved him more. If only I’d have held him tighter.

PIERS MORGAN: But you always told him you loved him.

SHARON OSBOURNE: I did.

PIERS MORGAN: You always hugged him tight. You had one of the great marriages I’ve ever seen in my life. It was turbulent. It had its ups and downs. Everybody knows that. But it was a great marriage, Sharon. I mean, you knew each other from 1970.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah.

PIERS MORGAN: I mean, incredible if you think about that. 55 years you’d known since you were a teenager.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah. And he’s just never not been there.

He Knew the End Was Near

PIERS MORGAN: Do you think when he, the night before, said, “Hug me,” do you think he knew that the end was very close?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah, he knew. He… he knew when he did the show that it was, you know, he… I think he didn’t want to die on stage. He didn’t.

But he knew that it was that close. He did.

PIERS MORGAN: When he was hugging you that night before, what was he saying to you?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Oh, he just tucked me tighter. “Tighter,” you know?

But he was having… you know, “When I go, do you think you’ll ever get married?” I’m like, “F* off. Are you joking? Piss off.”

Questions like that, you know.

PIERS MORGAN: Could you imagine ever marrying anybody else?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Never? Oh, my God, no. Never, ever, ever, ever? No.

PIERS MORGAN: In those two weeks, knowing that the show probably would take so much out of it, that it would bring an end to his life, did you get the chance to really say the things that you wanted to say?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yes and no. Yeah. I mean, I had the chance, but I didn’t want to be a downer because he was on such a high. He was on such a high.

PIERS MORGAN: Right. You wanted to celebrate him being alive.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah. Yeah. And it was just so, such a joyous time for him in his life. And I’m like, so good to see him laughing again and, you know, was just great.

The Importance of Family

PIERS MORGAN: How important have your kids been to you?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Oh, my God. Throughout this period, Piers, it’s… I would, I wouldn’t have gone through. I would have just gone with Ozzy.

PIERS MORGAN: Would you?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely. I’ve done everything I ever wanted to do. You know, it’s that they’ve been, they’ve been, excuse me, unbelievably just magnificent with me, all three of them.

PIERS MORGAN: They’re the reason and their kids are the reason why you got to hang in there.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Oh, I… Years ago, when I had one of my mental breakdowns, I went into a little facility to help with my head. And there were two girls there whose, they didn’t know each other, but they were in there then. Each mother had committed suicide.

And I saw the state that these two young women were in and what it had done to their lives. And I thought, I will never, ever, ever do that to my kids. But here we are.

And he wanted to do an interview with you. He goes, “I never want to interview with anyone again unless I really like them.” And I said, “Well, you can do that.” He goes, “I really want to talk to Piers.”

Ozzy’s Random Acts of Kindness

PIERS MORGAN: I said, do you know what? I would have loved it. He used to send me random text. I just reminded myself, looking at the one earlier. He sent me one. I just loved it because it was from him.

I just, “Pierce, I just want to let you know I think your show is the best show ever. I’m addicted to watching it all. I’m watching now. I love it. Keep up the good work. Much love and respect, Ozzy.”

And I said, “I’m so touched that you think this.” He said, “It’s the best show in town.” And I just thought, you know, and last year, here, I’ve got one here. First of January. “Hey, Piers. Here’s to a happy new year. God bless you.” Always just randomly.

And I just, that was Aussie to me. The randomness of his thoughts and communications and the stuff he’d do and the jokes he’d come out with and the way he lived his life. A lot of it was random, but underpinning it all, I always felt was his unbelievably ferocious love for you.

And it may not have manifested itself always in the best way, but it was undeniable. He just had this ferocious love for you, didn’t he? I mean, it was like you were…

SHARON OSBOURNE: Basically as I did, as I did for him.

PIERS MORGAN: Yeah.

SHARON OSBOURNE: You know, and we were like two oddballs.

PIERS MORGAN: Yeah. Yes.

SHARON OSBOURNE: That connected.

The First Meeting

PIERS MORGAN: Yeah. Do you remember the first time you met him?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Oh, yeah.

PIERS MORGAN: Paint me the picture.

SHARON OSBOURNE: My dad was a manager at the time and Black Sabbaths were just breaking. There was this huge, you got to remember that in the 70s, the industry was so small and every manager in town knew that they were managed by this local guy in Birmingham and they were like primed to be stolen.

And they were playing at the marquee and my dad had a meeting with them the next day. So we went down to the marquee to see them and it was like jam packed, you couldn’t move and sweat was dripping down the walls.

And when they came on, I was like, “Oh, my Lord, what is that? What is that?” Because I’d been used to seeing a slick American artist, you know, that looked and smelt brilliant and whatever. And here are these four guys, like, what the hell? And the music, I’m like…

And then halfway through, you got it. You got what they were all about. And so the next day they came into the office and I was the receptionist. And in those days you had a, the little yeah with the plug in.

PIERS MORGAN: Hilarious.

SHARON OSBOURNE: And they came in, they sat down on the floor and I asked them if they wanted tea and whatever. And then they went in to see my dad. And afterwards he goes, “Oh, we’ve definitely got them. It’s in the bag. It’s in the bag.”

And my father’s bodyguard and chauffeur collected them from their hotel, brought them to our office, and then took them back to their hotel. And on the way back, they told him that they were terrified of my father.

And he said, “I know somebody that you should meet.” And it was my father’s day to day guy who did the day to day work in the office and the bodyguard. And then the next day they were the managers.

PIERS MORGAN: Really?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah.

PIERS MORGAN: Hilarious.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah.

PIERS MORGAN: When did you first think that you and Ozzy might be having a little romantic…

SHARON OSBOURNE: Well, I was fire. I was, I’d moved to America and, you know, the band was so huge by then. By the time I’d moved, this is like 75, 76. And they were always in L.A. recording, touring, whatever.

And the guitar player, Tony and I would, one of those things. “Oh, God, how are you? What’s going on?” in clubs and bars, you know, down the strip?

PIERS MORGAN: Yeah, yeah.

SHARON OSBOURNE: At the Whiskey, the Rainbow, all of those places. And he would say, “Come to the show.” And I would go down to the show and, you know, talk to him after the show.

And I would always see Ozzy and he was like, just had the best smile in the world. That smile would be, it was hypnotizing. And we would talk and he would make me laugh and I’d go home. And then it was in 79 that they decided to come back because my dad’s chauffeur and his day to day guy had taken all their money.

What they thought my father would do, really? They did. Wow. And so they were broke and they called me and said, “Can we come and see your dad? Can he help us out?”

PIERS MORGAN: And he did, did he?

SHARON OSBOURNE: And that was it. Yeah.

The Romance Begins

PIERS MORGAN: And was that the moment when you and Ozzy…

SHARON OSBOURNE: Well, we were, I was working with them as a day to day person and so he was just so funny. And I used to love his company because it was always an up, you know, he was never one of these musicians that complains about everything and nothing’s right and, you know, it’s all your fault. And he was never like that. He was just fun the whole time.

PIERS MORGAN: When was the moment he asked you on a date or whatever it was?

SHARON OSBOURNE: That was in 1980. We were in Shepparton Studios and he was rehearsing to go out on his first solo tour. And he was really excited. He saw his little stage set that was all his and he had his band there and it was, you know, joyous. Everybody was on a high and the album was doing good. It had just been released and that was it.

PIERS MORGAN: What?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Well, we got together that night and then…

PIERS MORGAN: But how, after all these years of being in each other’s orbit, how did it suddenly become a romantic thing?

SHARON OSBOURNE: One of the guys from our office was in the room. We were in Ozzy’s bedroom. We were going over stuff. And then he goes to the guy, “F* off. Get out of here.” Oh, God. “Okay, I’ll go, I’ll go.” And that was it.

PIERS MORGAN: That was it.

SHARON OSBOURNE: But I thought, “Oh, my God, he’s married, he’s got two kids. What the f have I done?” Because everybody knows you don’t s on your own doorstep.

And then I thought the next day, he’s never going to talk to me. Because, you know, that’s how it was. You know, he was like, was right at the moment, but today, you know. And I thought, he’s never going to talk to me. I’ve ruined it. I f*ed it up.

And he was so happy to see me the next day. And I’m like, really? And that was it. We were together from that day.

Navigating the Complications

PIERS MORGAN: How difficult was it early on because he was married, because he had kids.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Very, very, very hard for him. Very hard. And I’d never had kids and I wasn’t from a family where there were a lot of kids and I didn’t really have friends with kids. They were all young. They weren’t, you know, even married by mates. So I was really, like, had no idea what it was that he was going through.

And then it’s not until you have your own kids that you realize how this must have destroyed him. And it really did. It really, really did.

PIERS MORGAN: He went through some wild periods in that time. You know, he was a big party guy. We know all that. How hard was that? I mean, that Aussie was very different to the Aussie towards the end of his life. So how hard was it to deal with him?

SHARON OSBOURNE: See, I’d seen people. Not people like that, but I’d seen, my whole life was surrounded by alcoholics and addicts and whatever it was, that was it, you know, the 70s. And he was like, didn’t faze me. It honestly didn’t faze me at all.

PIERS MORGAN: Because I always say, when people say, how did Sharon… I said, how did Ozzy cope with Sharon?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Exactly, exactly. And it’s like when people would say, “Oh, my God, he gets very violent.” And I’m like, “Yeah, so did my dad.” You know, I’m so used to it. I was so used to extreme behavior that it just…

PIERS MORGAN: It’s like, okay, did that make it easier? Just generally when Aussie would fall off the rails, be it with booze or whatever, or women or whatever, did it make it easier to know that you’ve been around a lot of mercurial people, especially performers, they get hooked on adrenaline. Life in the fast lane, the party stuff, the image the brand, being a rock star. Is it easier to navigate when you know what you’ve got?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Oh, yeah. Yeah. And you’ve got, you’ve got to realize that, I know it’s a whole thing with a lot of women. You know, if you go with somebody else, that’s it. It’s over. And we’re all so different. But it didn’t faze me.

Not until it was, you know, a couple of times, it was like, I don’t like the fact you brought them to my house. And it is my f*ing house. I would go to him. I furnished it. That I didn’t like. But it never fazed me because I know what he’s like, and it means nothing. Means nothing.

PIERS MORGAN: I think that’s undeniable. What meant everything to him in the world was you and the kids and the family and life.

The Birmingham Homecoming

PIERS MORGAN: When we talked earlier about the outpouring of love for him after he died, those scenes in Birmingham, I mean, I’ve not really seen anything like that since sort of Princess Diana died. It was on such an enormous level back at the city where it all began for him, back with his own people. You looked at the time to be completely crushed by the enormity of losing him. My heart just broke for you seeing the pictures. But how uplifting was it at the same time to feel those fans and the scale of it and the volume of people?

SHARON OSBOURNE: It was important I knew how much people loved him. To a point. But this was going back to your hometown where you’re really loved.

PIERS MORGAN: Yeah.

SHARON OSBOURNE: And it was just—it was like I was in a dream. I was just kind of, like, up here looking down on it all. It was comforting. I loved it because my kids could see and feel how much their father was loved.

PIERS MORGAN: Yeah. And how many messages did you get in total of any kind, do you think? If you were to guess.

SHARON OSBOURNE: With everything that came through, because the city was so brilliant, every flower that was left at the bench, they brought me everything. Every note, every condolence book. It’s got to be over 100,000.

PIERS MORGAN: Amazing.

SHARON OSBOURNE: From what they got and then from what we got in Los Angeles and here that were sent to the house. I mean, it was just like overwhelmingly warm. And it was like, for me, you got him. You got him. You knew what he was like.

Messages from World Leaders

PIERS MORGAN: And you said in your podcast that you do with your kids that Donald Trump sent you a message, a voicemail. I think we’ve got a copy of that.

SHARON OSBOURNE: And he wrote me, too. I mean, just so—and the cake.

PIERS MORGAN: Let’s see if we got the—let’s listen to it. Yeah.

“Wanted to wish you the best. And the family of great Ozzy was amazing. He was an amazing guy. I met him a few times and I want to tell you, he was unique in every way and talented. So I just wanted to wish you the best and it’s a tough thing. I know how close you were and whatever I can do. Take care of yourself. Say hello to the family. Thanks. Bye.”

PIERS MORGAN: He didn’t have to call and leave a voicemail. And he wrote to you as well. Yeah, he did. Because you knew—you’ve known Trump a long time as obviously I have too. You worked with him a bit, actually, over the years. What did it mean to you that the President of the United States took the trouble to do that?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Just so much. So, so much. You’ve got no idea. And then when I actually—His Majesty sent me a letter the next day.

PIERS MORGAN: King Charles.

SHARON OSBOURNE: King Charles. And delivered it.

PIERS MORGAN: Really? What did he say?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Just how sorry he was. He knew Ozzy.

PIERS MORGAN: Yeah, he knew.

SHARON OSBOURNE: We’ve met him several times and he’s always been so gracious with Ozzy and they would always laugh together and just, you know, he got Ozzy, he got him.

PIERS MORGAN: Young Ozzy in his teens have thought that if one day when he died, the President of the United States and the King of the United Kingdom would go out of their way to send—

SHARON OSBOURNE: Messages and the Mexican Parliament stood up and gave him applause and just, I mean, it was just worldwide and it was just—makes you feel good. Makes you feel good that they loved the person you loved and they saw good in him. Because, you know, people’s perception is not reality. And, you know, there are still some snooty English people that go, “Oh, that dreadful man.” You know. You know, like, just, you know, when you look at King Charles and you look at Donald Trump, whatever anybody might think about them, it’s their business, but their days, you know how full their days are. I mean, insanity. And that they had the time and the graciousness to do that for Ozzy.

PIERS MORGAN: Who else meant a lot to you in the way they reached out to you?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Oh, my God, his peers. All his peers. Just amazing. Just amazing.

Ozzy’s Legacy Among Rock Legends

PIERS MORGAN: Yeah, the rock musicians. Yeah. Yeah. Because they felt like they’d lost one of their great iconic figures. I mean, I saw the tributes from all of them. They really did have Ozzy up on a pedestal with very few people. I mean, he’s on the Mount Rushmore of rock front men, really, I think indisputably. Because when he came along, he kind of just reinvented the wheel, which very few rock singers ever do.

SHARON OSBOURNE: They just saw the good in him and they saw his individuality and they were drawn to that. It was unique. There was never been anybody like Ozzy. So complex, but yet so sociable and—but he, you know, he, you know, he was a really complex person.

PIERS MORGAN: He was. But I also, behind the scenes, if you went to your house and we just were hanging out and stuff, there was a real warmth to Ozzy. He’s just a warm guy. He wanted you to have a good time. He’d have, you know, he’d be very solicitous. Ask about your own family, ask everyone else. And he kind of had a—he had a wonderful, kind of slightly bemused air about life and just all the crap going on. You just imagine throwing himself up at the—watching the news and exasperated by all this crazy stuff. But there was a real warmth that underpinned Ozzy.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Always, always. He was. I mean, he is the epitome of somebody that just doesn’t care what you are, what religion you are, what you don’t—where you come from in the world. He would just be open. And if you’re, you know, he’s nice and he expects that back. And then if you didn’t, he’d be, “Oh, see ya.”

The Roger Waters Controversy

PIERS MORGAN: What would he have made of Roger Waters, who reacted to Ozzy’s death in an interview with the Independent? “Ozzy Osbourne, who just died?” He said, “Bless him in his—whatever state that he was in his whole life. We’ll never know, though. He’s all over the TV for hundreds of years with his idiocy and nonsense. The music, I have no idea. I couldn’t give a f*. I don’t care about Black Sabbath. I never did. I have no interest in biting the heads of chickens. Whatever they do, I couldn’t care less.”

I mean, part of me thinks Ozzy would find that hilarious and think, “Roger Waters, you are a prick.” Which, by the way, he sat in that very chair.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Oh, God.

PIERS MORGAN: He sat there, may not be the exact chair, but he sat there and he was an unbelievable prick to interview. So for him to take the high moral ground with anyone. But what do you—what do you feel when you hear things like that from one of the big rock stars of the country?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Produced, but not legendary, not liked. Has been today. He, you know, that’s the way it is. You know, he was great, but his greatness didn’t last. He couldn’t do any great music on his own. He’s a has been.

PIERS MORGAN: And very bitter. I mean, he was very bitter when he was with me.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Oh, my God. He’s crazy, though. He’s definitely, definitely not wired right. Five wives later and, you know, hates everybody that’s successful. And he’s stomping around in his, you know, pathetic homemade Nazi outfit and, you know, he’s just—he’s nuts.

I was going to send him one of my Tiffany boxes, but I will save it.

PIERS MORGAN: For those who are not with your Tiffany boxes. Would you like to explain what they used to contain?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Oh, dear.

Well, I used to save it for the press, actually, because the rock press, usually at, say, a festival, you know, the rock press, they’d be pissed up at the bar and then they would go home and write a review of the show, and they never watched any of it. And there was this one guy that reviewed Ozzy at some festival and said his blond hair blowing in the wind and gave this worst review ever. And I just sent him a Tiffany box, which everybody loves, and it was full of Jack’s poo from his diaper.

And it’s like, if you’re going to write a review, if you’ve seen it, God bless you, you’re entitled to your opinion. But Ozzy never had blonde hair then at that point. So it’s like it was a guy I’d even watched, hadn’t watched it, pissed in a bar. And then I began doing it to other people I disliked. But even that is a waste to send shit to him. You know, it’s a waste because he’s really insignificant. But I just thought with anybody that passes, that has a family, you don’t do that.

PIERS MORGAN: Did anybody else let you down in the way they reacted?

SHARON OSBOURNE: No, no.

PIERS MORGAN: He seemed to me a bit of an outlier. I didn’t see anything else there.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Nothing. Nothing. I mean, the guy is—I thought it was about me because he hates Jews and I’m half a Jew. And it’s like, so he hates me because my dad was Jewish. Well, my mother was a fing Roman Catholic. Who gives a f, right? But I think it was me.

Yeah, but he was one of those musicians. There are very few musicians that come from money. You can name them. And he was well educated, middle class, you know, and they—he’s just always been a bit poncey, you know? “Don’t you know who I am?” Oh, f off. He fing has been.

PIERS MORGAN: God, it’s good to have Sharon back on you. Back on all firing cylinders.

SHARON OSBOURNE: But you know what the other guys? David.

PIERS MORGAN: Yeah. David Gilmour. Yeah.

SHARON OSBOURNE: All those guys.

PIERS MORGAN: Well, they’ve all fallen out with him too.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Oh, yeah. No wonder they f*ing aimed him out.

Life After Ozzy

PIERS MORGAN: Yeah, yeah. No, no, they’ve got no time for it. It’s been five months now. Tell me what your life is like now. I mean, what—you’re at the house here. You still got the place in LA. It’s a beautiful house. It’s like a museum to your life with Ozzy, in a way, you know, it’s the most beautifully decorated, as all your homes are always decorated so beautifully. But it’s got so many things which are uniquely you and Ozzy. Have you thought about what you’ll do, where you’re going to live? I mean, your kids and grandkids live mainly in America.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah.

PIERS MORGAN: What are you going to do? Have you worked it out yet?

SHARON OSBOURNE: No. No. And it’s like, I, I, you know, each day I go, “What am I going to do with myself? What the f* am I going to do?” You know, I—all I’ve been doing is going through Ozzy diaries and, you know, he keep—he kept—

PIERS MORGAN: He kept diaries.

SHARON OSBOURNE: A journal every day.

PIERS MORGAN: Really?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah.

PIERS MORGAN: Oh, my God. You going to publish it?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Some, maybe.

PIERS MORGAN: Did he—did he want it out as a book?

SHARON OSBOURNE: He never—he’s done. I’ve got over 2,000 drawings by Ozzy. Yeah.

The Ozzy Osbourne Diaries

PIERS MORGAN: Because he was incredibly artistic and creative. I saw some of them. Amazingly talented guy. So many different ways. Got the Ozzy Osbourne diaries. I’m already salivating. How long had he kept it for?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Oh, wow. He went into rehab. What year was it? 84. And that’s where he got—they told him every day, you journal, journal. And he kept it up. He journaled, went back to drinking. But he—

PIERS MORGAN: That’s nearly 40 years.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah.

PIERS MORGAN: 40 years of Ozzy Osbourne Diaries.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah.

PIERS MORGAN: That would be incredible. Was he very honest in them?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Very, very.

PIERS MORGAN: Really?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah. And I’d never ever read them.

PIERS MORGAN: And have you been reading them now?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah.

PIERS MORGAN: What’s it like?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Sad.

PIERS MORGAN: Is it?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah.

PIERS MORGAN: Why?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Because he would put himself down a lot in his journaling. Yeah.

PIERS MORGAN: Have you read things which surprised you about what he was saying about you?

SHARON OSBOURNE: No. He would be pretty honest with me eventually. He would be pretty honest with me about situations and the way he acted or whatever. No, but it’s sad. Very sad.

PIERS MORGAN: And happy as well.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah. Yeah.

PIERS MORGAN: So there’s a lot of us.

SHARON OSBOURNE: He was always so appreciative of everything with his fans. He was so appreciative of everything.

Buried Under the Crabapple Tree

PIERS MORGAN: There’s a wonderful story that long before his death, Ozzy asked you and the kids to bury him under a crabapple tree on the family estate where you are at the moment. And you agreed it was to be a place where they could remember. He wrote in his 2010 autobiography, “I Am Ozzy,” that he wanted to be buried there so the kids can make wine out of me and get pissed out of their heads. And I think he is buried by the crabapple tree. Have you made any Ozzy wine yet?

SHARON OSBOURNE: No.

PIERS MORGAN: Do you think you will?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Probably not. Probably not. But yeah, he’s buried under the tree.

PIERS MORGAN: Do you go down there all the time?

SHARON OSBOURNE: All the time. All the time.

PIERS MORGAN: Every day.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Oh, yeah, every day.

PIERS MORGAN: Do you talk to him then?

SHARON OSBOURNE: The kids do exactly the same. Rosie’s son Lewis, and Ozzy’s grandson Elijah. Everybody goes down there and has a chat with him. Yeah.

PIERS MORGAN: Do you find that comforting?

SHARON OSBOURNE: So comforting. So comforting.

PIERS MORGAN: You feel him there, his presence?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Oh, God, yeah. And I still haven’t—I burn several candles in the house that I’ve always replaced. It’s never without candles, pictures, and just—yeah, he’s in the house.

PIERS MORGAN: What would he want you to do with your life, do you think?

SHARON OSBOURNE: I don’t know. He’d want to be missed. He is so terribly—I mean, it’s not even missed. It’s an ache that you wake up with and you can’t get rid of that ache. It’s like a big hole inside of you. And the kids feel exactly the same way. And it’s just—you know, what do you do? It’s inevitable that it happens to all of us.

His 77th Birthday

PIERS MORGAN: It would have been his 77th birthday on the 3rd of December. So just this last week, what did you do on that day?

SHARON OSBOURNE: I went to Birmingham. The mayor had another award for Ozzy. And I took the award and I went to see his exhibition at the museum. And we walked around there and we went to the bench and I laid flowers.

And then we went for an Indian meal, which Ozzy would want us to do. And so I saw Ozzy’s sisters and his brother and his nephew and Louis and we were all together.

PIERS MORGAN: I never really noticed an accent with Ozzy, despite all the time he was in America. He basically was a Brummie from the day he was born to the day he died.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Oh, my God. Yes. So much so. And he was proud of it. You know, he’s a working class guy and he had that working class mentality. When he couldn’t work for the last seven years—I mean, he made two albums, but touring—he would say, “This just isn’t right. I have to keep working. I can’t not. I have to keep working.”

And I’m like, “Why?” “Because that’s what I do. I can’t just sit here.”

PIERS MORGAN: Do you feel that the same for yourself?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah.

PIERS MORGAN: You’ve always worked all the time.

SHARON OSBOURNE: I’ve known you since I was 15. I’ve worked. So it’s like, this is what we do.

What She Misses Most

PIERS MORGAN: What do you miss most about him, Sharon?

SHARON OSBOURNE: His hand. Holding his hand. Yeah.

You can’t put it into words. They need to create new words for it. The feeling of loss, you know, and the love of your life. And you go into that room at night to sleep. And I never sleep. I keep looking at my phone as he texts me, you know.

It’s just hard. But it will be hard. And I know I will always feel the same. When you love so deep, it never goes away. They say that you just get used to it. And that’s why I say grief is my friend, I think.

PIERS MORGAN: I mean, I’ve been with people who’ve been through extreme grief at various stages of age and life. And the whole thing of time is—time is definitely a healer. Things get less sharply horrible. But I don’t think you ever get over it. It’s like, I don’t think you’ll ever—you’re not going to get over Ozzy, right?

I won’t get over him. And I wasn’t married to him in a sense that every time I hear his music or—that’s the thing. He’s not like he’s some guy we never knew. Everywhere you go, you must occasionally up comes his music on the radio or you see a picture or something. Or something. There’ll be a story in the papers about something that triggers the memory.

I mean, that’s the other thing. When you’re married to an iconic figure like Ozzy Osbourne, there are constant public memories which will come to you.

SHARON OSBOURNE: He’s everywhere. He’s everywhere.

PIERS MORGAN: Does that help you or does it make it more difficult?

SHARON OSBOURNE: No, it just—I mean, look, I look at pictures of him all day in my house. There’s things he brought back from every country in the world and different things he bought.

PIERS MORGAN: I’ve never seen so many artifacts from around the world in houses in my life than what you have in yours. They’re like museum. They’re like global museums. It’s incredible when you first—you take it for granted, but when you walk into an Osbourne home, it is dazzling the stuff you amassed.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah. And it’s like, you know, things and—he’s everywhere. Everywhere in the house.

First Christmas Without Him

PIERS MORGAN: You’re going to have your first Christmas without him.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah.

PIERS MORGAN: Do you have a plan? You’re going to be together?

SHARON OSBOURNE: I’m going to spend it with Kelly and my grandson and Kelly’s partner here in England. And then on the 27th, I go to LA and I’ll have it with Jack and the girls.

PIERS MORGAN: Have you spoken to Jack since he came out of the “I’m a Celebrity” jungle? Yeah, he did great. He came over to Jack. I mean, he’s a great character.

SHARON OSBOURNE: He, you know, all of that about living outside and loving nature is all from Ozzy. When he was this big, Ozzy and him would be outside in the garden in a tent. “Oh, we’re going to be here for the week,” you know, and he just—all of that is from Ozzy.

PIERS MORGAN: I mean, you’re all natural reality TV stars. Ever since you did the Osbourne Show. You were a family born to do this because you’re all such curious characters, all of you. What is that? Where does that come from?

SHARON OSBOURNE: I think it just—we’re people with very strong personality.

PIERS MORGAN: Yes.

SHARON OSBOURNE: All of us. And it just—

PIERS MORGAN: Just works, you know. I remember I was talking on Fox in America the week after Ozzy died, and I suddenly remembered a story. I said, if you want to know—I mean, one of the funniest times ever, we were doing “America’s Got Talent.” I think there was somewhere like Dallas or Miami, something like that.

And we had dinner and Kelly came with her then boyfriend. And after about half an hour of the five of us having dinner, she suddenly said, “We’re just getting bored with this.” You went, “Bored? We’re leaving.” And they got up and left. And you and Ozzy were like, “Bored of us? Bored?”

And then they went around and we hadn’t seen—they walked around outside, it was snowing. And the next thing, they tapped on the window and they both dropped their trousers and did a mooney. Do you remember this? Through the French windows. And you and Ozzy, from moment, you were outraged.

SHARON OSBOURNE: That’s disgusting.

PIERS MORGAN: And then I had to remind you, you’re Ozzy and Sharon Osbourne. This is the natural consequence of your union. And it was hilarious. And then you both fell about laughing. I remember we had such a funny time after that in that dinner.

SHARON OSBOURNE: We did.

PIERS MORGAN: Just laughing, laughing, laughing, laughing. My time with Ozzy, 90% laughing. You know, I loved his music. I loved everything about that side of him. But when I think about him, I just think about him making me laugh or laughing at what I’d said, or whatever it was. Yeah, he was a man who loved to laugh.

SHARON OSBOURNE: God, did he ever. And he had the best laugh.

PIERS MORGAN: He did. It was so infectious, wasn’t it? He was hilarious.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah, yeah. No matter—and, you know, it’s like when people go, “Oh, I didn’t want his music.” But he was more than that. You know, his personality, he was a trailblazer, you know?

Kelly’s Response to Trolls

PIERS MORGAN: Yeah. I was thinking of the legacy, if you like, the bloodline, because Kelly posted something online on Instagram and then she got attacked. This has all happened in the last 24 hours. She got attacked by people for the way she looked. They thought she was too skinny and this and this. And like a classic Osbourne, she went straight on the attack. Let’s take a look.

SHARON OSBOURNE: No. What did you—I don’t even know how to say this, so I’m just going to say it to the people who keep thinking that they’re being funny and mean by writing comments like, “Are you ill?” or “Get off Ozempic,” or “You don’t look right.”

My dad just died. And I’m doing the best that I can. And the only thing I have to live for right now is my family. And I choose to share my content with you and share the happy side of my life, not the miserable side of my life. So to all those people, f* off.

PIERS MORGAN: That is an Osbourne.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yes.

PIERS MORGAN: What do you feel like when you hear that?

SHARON OSBOURNE: I kissed it. Just as—she’s right, you know she’s right. And if she’s happy—that she can’t eat, well, she’s not happy because she’s lost her daddy, but she can’t eat right now. She doesn’t.

PIERS MORGAN: What do you think about people who just troll Kelly, or whoever it may be, who’s going through obviously unbearable grief, loses weight and then has to put up with that because of social media? You know, 25 years ago that wouldn’t be—it wouldn’t be possible. But now it’s, you know, you’ve had it yourself, right, in the last few years.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah, all the time. It’s like, you know.

SHARON OSBOURNE: It’s a shield for people that are unhappy. It’s a shield and jealousy and people’s perception of somebody else.

How many times have we been wrong about somebody, you know, because of our perception, and we haven’t even met them and we are so whatever. And they actually turn out to be great people. We do it. But you and I don’t take the point where we spend a second wasting a second of our lives in writing something about them.

You know, going on their site, taking the time, writing. It’s like that’s a lot of effort goes into that. And I just feel sorry for people. You know, there’s something wrong with their lives. They’re not happy.

Working on Ozzy’s Movie

PIERS MORGAN: What are you going to do with yourself, work wise? Because I can’t imagine you not working. You’re a brilliant performer yourself. Do you have a plan? Do you have something you want to do?

SHARON OSBOURNE: The thing that I’m doing now is working on Ozzy’s movie. We have a deal and we’re looking for people to work on the movie now. And that’s my main thing.

PIERS MORGAN: Do you have an idea of who you want to play?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yes.

PIERS MORGAN: Can you share it?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Not yet.

PIERS MORGAN: Watching can help him get over the line. Yeah, but is there someone that you feel could capture the real Ozzy?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And I just…

PIERS MORGAN: Young blood. Or no. Denial.

SHARON OSBOURNE: But I’m not saying a word. That’s my main thing right now, is doing that. And then, you know, just… I don’t know, things happen, don’t they? You open a door and suddenly your life has changed. And there might be something in the future, I don’t know, but I know I’m not. I can’t just sit at home and sit in my garden all day.

Finding Strength After Loss

PIERS MORGAN: No, you can’t. You can’t. I have a lot of ideas for you, Sharon. We work together a lot over the years and I have a lot of ideas. I think you’re showing signs to me that you’ve… you’re beginning to get your strength back after what has been probably an utterly horrific five months.

SHARON OSBOURNE: You know, I lost after Ozzy. Five days later, one of my oldest dogs died. And then Elvis died two weeks after. Ozzy was just unbelievable. Like… But it teaches you, don’t waste any time. People waste so much of their time and energy.

PIERS MORGAN: Stuff that just doesn’t matter, you know. I’ve lost a couple of really good friends in my life last year. Young, 57, 58, 61. Old village mates who just one got an awful brain cancer, one dropped dead on a golf course. They’re very different ways to die, but they were so young, comparatively. And you just think you do. It’s an old cliche. You get one go at this.

And when I think about Ozzy, I think, my God, he packed it in. I mean, talk about not dying with regrets. That’s why I loved… And we started like this. And I’d like to end it because I just feel the end of Ozzy’s life. If he could have scripted it and could have chosen the way he would like to bow out, it would surely be with that concert on the throne with his mates, his family, his people in front of him, his real die hard fans.

And then to have two weeks of feeling great and to have that last hug with you and then to… I mean, the irony of Ozzy dying going to the gym would have amused him.

SHARON OSBOURNE: And that’s it. I told him it was bad for him. I always say, why such put so much effort into it. It’s bad.

PIERS MORGAN: I could imagine him now saying, “Sharon, I told you the gym would kill me. It wouldn’t be the booze, it wouldn’t be the drugs, it’d be the bloody gym.” I’ll miss him a lot, Ozzy. I already do. And I can’t even imagine the level that you miss him, but he had…

SHARON OSBOURNE: So much respect for you, Piers.

An Unlikely Friendship

PIERS MORGAN: Well, we just had a great… I think we just really… We were very unlikely mates, actually, because we came from very different backgrounds. But I just immediately felt an affinity with Ozzy. I mean, you remember the first time we had dinner with America’s Got Talent.

SHARON OSBOURNE: And it was Ozzy that got us back talking.

PIERS MORGAN: When I said something that annoyed you, you went berserk. Got up, trying to throttle me. Got pulled off by Jerry Springer.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Jerry Springer pulled me off.

PIERS MORGAN: Jerry Springer, who was the host of the show, pulled you up and the NBC execs were like, “What the f* is happening here?” And you stormed off. And then all I remember is I went to bed and about 2 in the morning I get a phone call and it was you saying, “Ozzy says I should call you and say sorry.”

SHARON OSBOURNE: And he was right.

PIERS MORGAN: And what was funny, I remember we went… We went into first day filming the next day, and of course the NBC executives were like, “Well, this is complete catastrophe. The two judges, basically, one’s just tried to kill the other one. These Brits are crazy.” And then we walked in like nothing. And actually we got on like an absolute house on fire. But Ozzy, hilariously, was the peacemaker. Yeah, he was the one that solved the problem.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Who would have thought?

A Magical Tribute

PIERS MORGAN: He was a magical guy. Sharon, thank you for giving me this interview and for sharing so many lovely stories. He meant a lot to me, a lot to so many millions of people. And, you know, my brother, my army brother, is a massive Black Sabbath fan, an Ozzy fan, I mean, just a complete… Yeah, mental fan. And was distraught by it all. But then also felt like the final show was the perfect way.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Do you know that the King’s Guard played “Paranoid”?

PIERS MORGAN: Yes.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Wasn’t it brilliant?

PIERS MORGAN: Buckingham Palace, wasn’t it? It was amazing.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Loved it.

PIERS MORGAN: Because that was magical.

SHARON OSBOURNE: It was.

PIERS MORGAN: He would have loved that because he loved the Royal…

SHARON OSBOURNE: Did he ever. He adored… Yeah, King Charles just adored him.

PIERS MORGAN: What could be better?

SHARON OSBOURNE: Nothing.

PIERS MORGAN: What a way to seal that wonderful life of your amazing husband. Sharon, it’s lovely to see you.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Missed you.

PIERS MORGAN: Come back soon.

SHARON OSBOURNE: I will.

PIERS MORGAN: Let’s do some fun stuff.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Yes.

PIERS MORGAN: Let’s just invoke the spirit of Ozzy and do some fun stuff.

SHARON OSBOURNE: You’re on.

PIERS MORGAN: It’s great to see you.

SHARON OSBOURNE: Thank you, Piers.

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