Jennifer Lawrence joins Alex Cooper on Call Her Daddy for a candid, hilarious conversation about The Hunger Games, Silver Linings Playbook, X-Men: First Class, and launching her new haircare brand, Mes°. She opens up about motherhood and postpartum anxiety, the online hate she got for being Team Jeremiah, her secret rage-bait TikTok, and her hottest reality TV takes, from Vanderpump Rules to Summer House. Read the full transcript of this interview below:
Welcome to Call Her Daddy
ALEX COOPER: (00:00:03 – 00:00:13) Jennifer Lawrence, welcome to Call Her Daddy.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:00:13 – 00:00:15) Thank you so much for having me.
ALEX COOPER: (00:00:15 – 00:00:16) I’m so happy you’re here.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:00:16 – 00:00:17) Thank you. I’m very happy to be here.
ALEX COOPER: (00:00:18 – 00:00:24) I have been really looking forward to this conversation. Obviously, you are one of the biggest movie stars.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:00:24 – 00:00:25) Of course. Of course. Go on.
ALEX COOPER: (00:00:25 – 00:00:27) Just so well established.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:00:27 – 00:00:27) Yes.
ALEX COOPER: (00:00:27 – 00:00:27) Yes.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:00:27 – 00:00:28) Yes.
ALEX COOPER: (00:00:28 – 00:00:41) And then I feel like you really became known for just not being afraid to say what you’re thinking. Yes. I do feel like you’re the type of person when people meet you, they kind of already feel like they know you and you’re their best friend.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:00:42 – 00:00:42) Yes.
Oversharing, Fans and the J-Law Nickname
ALEX COOPER: (00:00:43 – 00:00:46) Do you feel like people overshare when they meet you?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:00:46 – 00:00:48) No. Nobody ever overshares more than me.
ALEX COOPER: (00:00:48 – 00:00:53) Me 2 seconds ago before the camera started rolling, be like, “All right, so the cramps in my crotch, what am I doing?”
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:00:53 – 00:00:55) Again, I brought that up.
ALEX COOPER: (00:00:55 – 00:00:56) Okay, fair, fair.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:00:56 – 00:00:57) That was for me.
ALEX COOPER: (00:00:57 – 00:00:57) Okay.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:00:57 – 00:00:57) Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: (00:00:57 – 00:00:59) But you don’t think randoms overshare with you too much?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:01:00 – 00:01:04) No, and I don’t think I would notice. I’m just so confused about boundaries that—
ALEX COOPER: (00:01:05 – 00:01:05) Okay, perfect.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:01:05 – 00:01:07) Yeah, I don’t think it would even cross my mind.
ALEX COOPER: (00:01:07 – 00:01:09) That’ll make for good podcasting today, hopefully.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:01:09 – 00:01:09) It will.
ALEX COOPER: (00:01:10 – 00:01:20) Do you feel like you’ve ever had a really weird interaction with maybe a fan in the wild who thinks, “Oh, you’re my girl, let me just hang with you for a second,” or do they have boundaries?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:01:21 – 00:01:40) Nobody in New York wants to be the dork that’s like, “Oh my God, let me hitch a ride.” So everybody’s just like— I was coming out of a movie and was stuck on a very slow escalator in front of a girl that was asking to take a picture with me.
But I just got a peel. I actually got a peel too close to this. I don’t know if you can see the bumps.
ALEX COOPER: (00:01:40 – 00:01:40) You look gorgeous.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:01:40 – 00:01:41) Thank you.
ALEX COOPER: (00:01:41 – 00:01:41) You look gorgeous.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:01:41 – 00:01:49) Thank you. And so that was just uncomfortable because I was like, “No.” And then we were just stuck together.
ALEX COOPER: (00:01:50 – 00:01:52) And then you started oversharing. You’re like, “Because of the peel.”
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:01:52 – 00:01:55) Yeah. Yeah. I got a peel on my pussy.
ALEX COOPER: (00:01:57 – 00:02:01) He’s like, “I literally hate you and I’m not a fan anymore and I never asked you for that information.”
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:02:01 – 00:02:03) Yeah, yeah, I can’t believe I ever—
ALEX COOPER: (00:02:03 – 00:02:05) Do people usually call you Jen or J-Law?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:02:05 – 00:02:15) Imagine if I had people in my life that called me J-Law. My best friends all call me J-Law. And if somebody accidentally calls me Jen, I’m like, “What? Hold on.”
ALEX COOPER: (00:02:15 – 00:02:16) It’s J-Law to you.
ALEX COOPER: (00:02:17 – 00:02:18) I should refer to you as Jen though, right?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:02:18 – 00:02:30) Yes. Jennifer. Yeah. Miss Jennifer. Dr. Lawrence. Yes, you can refer to me as Jen. Yeah, I like the J-Law thing. It’s cool. I hope J.Lo is not mad.
ALEX COOPER: (00:02:31 – 00:02:35) No. Yeah. Have you ever been in a room with her and it’s been, “Oh, we’re both tense”? Yeah,
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:02:36 – 00:02:37) sure. Why not? Yes.
ALEX COOPER: (00:02:37 – 00:02:38) Let’s stir the room.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:02:38 – 00:02:43) And we got in a huge fight and I took her out.
ALEX COOPER: (00:02:43 – 00:02:50) No, I could see that because I was like, I’m saying J-Law. And then my husband earlier was like, “J.Lo?” And I’m like, “J-Law.”
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:02:50 – 00:02:50) Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: (00:02:50 – 00:02:52) It’s a good person to get mixed up with.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:02:53 – 00:02:53) Totally.
ALEX COOPER: (00:02:53 – 00:02:53) Yeah.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:02:54 – 00:02:56) Yeah, I know she might be, but I’m not.
Launching Her Haircare Brand Mes°
ALEX COOPER: (00:02:56 – 00:02:58) Your hair looks gorgeous today.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:02:58 – 00:02:58) Thank you.
ALEX COOPER: (00:02:59 – 00:03:03) And I just wanted to congratulate you on that because you are adding a new business to your resume.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:03:03 – 00:03:04) I am.
ALEX COOPER: (00:03:04 – 00:03:09) You are coming out with a new haircare brand called Mes°. Where did the name come from?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:03:09 – 00:03:41) It was— it was the first name that I ever kind of came to the table with and was just like, “I want to have a hair company called Mes°.” It feels true for me.
And so when I finally started working with Arcaea, we started getting into the nitty-gritty. It was just kind of like, “Well, it’s obviously not going to be called Mes°.” And so we went through and I was like, okay, we went through thousands of names, a big company and everything.
And then between copywriting and 86ing certain names that we didn’t like, we did land right back at Mes°.
ALEX COOPER: (00:03:41 – 00:03:46) At least it’s kind of validating. You’re like, “My idea was right all along.” Are you actually freezing?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:03:46 – 00:03:47) I’m not as cold as I am scared.
ALEX COOPER: (00:03:47 – 00:03:48) Are you nervous? No, I’m not nervous of the interview.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:03:50 – 00:03:52) I just, I can feel your pregnant energy and I’m like,
ALEX COOPER: (00:03:52 – 00:03:54) wait, what is pregnant energy?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:03:55 – 00:03:57) Quick.
ALEX COOPER: (00:03:57 – 00:04:01) Wait, I feel so slow. I feel like I’m really quick because I want to keep up with you.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:04:01 – 00:04:02) Oh, wow.
ALEX COOPER: (00:04:02 – 00:04:03) Should we slow it down?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:04:03 – 00:04:05) Sure.
ALEX COOPER: (00:04:05 – 00:04:16) My pregnancy brain is just— I feel like when I’m doing an interview, I’ve got to be quick because I’m now— of course I got to lock in. Yeah. Because if I lock out for 1 second, I’m going to be gone. You’re not coming back. I’m going to be gone.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:04:16 – 00:04:20) Well, you know what? I have postpartum brain, so of course I think you’re fast because I’m like, “What?”
ALEX COOPER: (00:04:22 – 00:04:30) So let us just say disclaimer today. If we say anything so stupid, out of pocket, something that could get us canceled, it’s not our fault.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:04:30 – 00:04:34) No, it’s literally our husbands. Scientifically, literally.
ALEX COOPER: (00:04:35 – 00:04:35) We’re perfect.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:04:35 – 00:04:36) Yes, we are.
Messy Scenarios: Red Flags, White Lies and Brutal Feedback
ALEX COOPER: (00:04:36 – 00:04:48) Speaking of mess, I’m going to give you a messy scenario cuz like you said, your life, you’re a little messy and you also have good takes. So I want to give you a scenario and you’re going to tell me how you would handle it.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:04:48 – 00:04:49) Oh, okay.
ALEX COOPER: (00:04:49 – 00:05:11) Okay, here we go. A friend starts seeing a guy and she is head over heels for him. So in love, obsessed, can’t stop talking about him. But you’ve kind of noticed a couple weird things.
Example, he’s constantly paying for dinner. He’s so generous, but no one has any fucking idea what he does for work.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:05:11 – 00:05:11) Oh, I hate that.
ALEX COOPER: (00:05:11 – 00:05:14) Are you going to bring this up to her or are you just going to let her live in her
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:05:16 – 00:05:37) I wouldn’t bring it up to her unless she asked, and asked in a real way, because there is obviously asking in the not real way, in a group, as a joke or whatever.
But if she was like, “What do you think? And, do you think this is weird?” Then I would be like, “I don’t know. Do you think it’s weird?” “Yeah, I think it’s super weird.” Right?
ALEX COOPER: (00:05:38 – 00:05:56) First put it back on her to temp check. But most— I think that’s a good point. It’s never at the brunch. It’s never with all the friends where she’s like, “What do you think about Garrett?”
And if you’re the idiot that’s going to be like, “Honestly, it really susses me out.” It’s like, no, no, no, she’s actually asking you to tell her how much you like Garrett. Yeah, read the room.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:05:56 – 00:06:13) It is always so— although I guess it’s getting harder with AI and all this new— I feel so old now with all of the changes, that if somebody can’t tell you what they do in under 60 seconds, it’s a red flag. But now I’m like, is it?
ALEX COOPER: (00:06:13 – 00:06:14) Right, it’s kind of what we’re living today.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:06:14 – 00:06:17) Someone’s like, “I’m a computer,” and I’m just like, “Okay.”
ALEX COOPER: (00:06:17 – 00:06:19) And then we believe them?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:06:19 – 00:06:20) Of course.
ALEX COOPER: (00:06:20 – 00:06:20) Obviously.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:06:20 – 00:06:21) What am I going to do?
ALEX COOPER: (00:06:21 – 00:06:23) You feel dumb that you don’t know. Yeah.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:06:24 – 00:06:27) I can’t drop a pin, so of course you’re a computer.
ALEX COOPER: (00:06:27 – 00:06:34) Neither can I. That actually is actually really confusing. What is the worst red flag that you’ve ever looked in your past? Overlooked.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:06:34 – 00:06:40) Overlooked. Oh, well, a guy that I was obsessed with was gay and told me he was gay.
ALEX COOPER: (00:06:40 – 00:06:41) Oh, and you were like—
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:06:42 – 00:06:49) and I was like, “No, you’re not. You’re gay right now. Just give me a chance.”
ALEX COOPER: (00:06:49 – 00:06:53) Okay, that’s good. So you didn’t end up together, obviously. And—
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:06:53 – 00:06:53) no, we did.
ALEX COOPER: (00:06:53 – 00:06:54) Okay,
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:06:54 – 00:06:55) that’s my husband.
ALEX COOPER: (00:06:56 – 00:07:05) I was going to say, yeah, that’d be great. Okay, good to know. Okay, is it okay to tell a white lie to get out of dinner with a friend if you are just too tired to go?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:07:07 – 00:07:27) I mean, if a white lie to get out of dinner is wrong, then I don’t want to be right. I don’t— I have— My husband has, for years, it baffles him. If he wants to get out of something, he just says, “Hey, can’t tonight. Goodbye.” I can’t even—
ALEX COOPER: (00:07:28 – 00:07:28) He’s direct.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:07:28 – 00:07:50) And I’m just like, “I broke my foot on a piece of glass. We’re rushing to the hospital. There’s a tornado in this city for the first time in decades.” It’s just always so long and dramatic because I need to make it believable.
But now I’ve gotten into a new place in my life where I just don’t make plans. I just say no to absolutely everything, and I haven’t seen anyone in my life for years.
ALEX COOPER: (00:07:50 – 00:08:00) Why do we do that? My husband does the same thing where he’s like, “Yo man, been a really crazy week, can’t make it, I wanted to stay in with the wife tonight.” And I’m literally like, “How did you do that?”
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:08:01 – 00:08:15) Yeah, are they so mad? Which is weird because it’s normally something is a projection, but I never get mad if somebody cancels on me. I obviously love when people cancel. So I don’t know what— I picture the person on the phone just being like, “What?”
ALEX COOPER: (00:08:15 – 00:08:16) Right.
ALEX COOPER: (00:08:16 – 00:08:20) “How could you?” And meanwhile, I love when people cancel. I’m like, “Oh, perfect.”
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:08:20 – 00:08:22) There’s nothing better than a canceled plan.
ALEX COOPER: (00:08:22 – 00:08:27) If you and your husband are, you got a night without the kids, what are you doing?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:08:28 – 00:08:29) Sitting in silence on our phones.
ALEX COOPER: (00:08:29 – 00:08:30) Okay.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:08:33 – 00:08:34) I, I hope it’s
ALEX COOPER: (00:08:34 – 00:08:47) so— you know what’s so beautiful about that answer is it’s so real. And I’ve seen celebrity couples out at lunch or something and they’ll be both on their phones and you see the comments of people being like, “Wow, they hate each other.” And I’m like, that’s what you do with your boyfriend at your date.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:08:47 – 00:08:48) Yeah. What?
ALEX COOPER: (00:08:48 – 00:08:49) Right. No, no. Okay.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:08:49 – 00:08:59) “So what are we going to talk about? How was your day?” I know exactly how your day was. I know exactly what happened. Yeah. And don’t you dare ask how mine was because have you not been paying attention?
ALEX COOPER: (00:09:00 – 00:09:07) It’s actually true. Okay. Your friend has been working on a script as a passion project and sends it to you for feedback.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:09:08 – 00:09:08) Oof.
ALEX COOPER: (00:09:08 – 00:09:13) You read it and it is just god-awful terrible. What do you say?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:09:15 – 00:09:29) I mean, God, whew, that’s tough. I think if I’m not in a position where I have to make it or something and it’s no skin off my back, then I think I would just be like, “It’s amazing. I love it.”
ALEX COOPER: (00:09:29 – 00:09:31) “This is groundbreaking material.”
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:09:31 – 00:09:39) Yeah, but if it was like I had to produce it or something, I would be like, “Justine hated it. I loved it. Justine hated it.”
ALEX COOPER: (00:09:39 – 00:09:41) Justine’s watching this literally like,
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:09:41 – 00:09:41) yeah,
ALEX COOPER: (00:09:41 – 00:09:44) that’s my life. Yeah, yeah, always blame someone else. You don’t need to take the brunt of that.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:09:44 – 00:09:49) I wonder how many people in my professional life are going to watch this and be like, “Oh my God, Justine’s
ALEX COOPER: (00:09:49 – 00:09:49) always
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:09:49 – 00:09:52) hated it. Justine hated my work too.”
ALEX COOPER: (00:09:52 – 00:09:57) It’s always you. What is the most brutal piece of acting feedback you have ever gotten in your career? My mom.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:09:59 – 00:10:15) At the premiere of The Hunger Games said she could tell in every scene when I had my period. Water retention, I guess. Imagine a day of me being on camera that that doesn’t go through my mind.
ALEX COOPER: (00:10:15 – 00:10:22) You now will never film when you’re on your period. You’re like, “I’m so scarred. Don’t put me on camera.” Oh, well, yeah, that’s it. That’s it.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:10:22 – 00:10:46) I’m like, well, I’ll only be able to film for about 20 days. She’s also the most supportive and the best and the person I’m so excited to tell exciting news to. I don’t know if— I think all moms are like that. Where you’re like, “Guess what?” And they just say the most out— the craziest— it will never live up to it.
I’m like, “Guess what?” And she’s like, “Oh my God, you wrote a movie, you’re winning an Oscar for Best Writer/Director, and you’re acting in it and just won an Oscar for that.” And I’m like, “No.” But—
ALEX COOPER: (00:10:46 – 00:10:47) but I love that you love me.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:10:48 – 00:10:48) Yeah.
Discovered at 14 and Growing Up in Kentucky
ALEX COOPER: (00:10:48 – 00:11:11) That’s what I was thinking about when you were coming here. I’m like, I know some of your story, but I feel like maybe some people don’t. And you kind of have an interesting way that you got into this industry.
So you were discovered on the street. When you were only 14 years old in New York City with your mother, which is such a flex to get recognized in the street. They’re like, “This one, this one’s going to make it,” which is great.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:11:11 – 00:11:13) Yeah, I was just so pretty.
ALEX COOPER: (00:11:13 – 00:11:17) They just were like, “She is so stunning, gorgeous, incredible.”
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:11:18 – 00:11:20) I walked down the street and everybody was like, “Oh my God.”
ALEX COOPER: (00:11:20 – 00:11:22) They’re passing out.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:11:22 – 00:11:22) Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: (00:11:22 – 00:11:26) “This is the most stunning woman I’ve ever seen in my life.” So they do that.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:11:26 – 00:11:27) Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: (00:11:27 – 00:11:33) And then your parents let you move to New York City with your brother. To pursue this career to some capacity.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:11:33 – 00:11:36) I accept this abridged version. Yeah. I need you to turn the AC down, please. Okay.
ALEX COOPER: (00:11:36 – 00:11:36) Turn it down.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:11:36 – 00:11:37) I’m going to die.
ALEX COOPER: (00:11:37 – 00:11:38) No, no, no. Turn it down. I’m okay.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:11:39 – 00:11:44) I’m like, my nose is running. I’m getting sick. My throat hurts.
ALEX COOPER: (00:11:44 – 00:11:51) You know what’s so— you’re going to leave here and be literally sniffling so sick.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:11:51 – 00:11:52) I will send you my doctor bill.
ALEX COOPER: (00:11:53 – 00:11:56) You know what’s so crazy? Is I feel so great.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:11:57 – 00:12:12) I know. I was pregnant. I was in my third trimester in the winter of New York, and I was just flying down the FDR with all of the windows down. So hot. Because when you’re pregnant in the winter, the heat is on everywhere.
ALEX COOPER: (00:12:12 – 00:12:13) Oh, really?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:12:13 – 00:12:16) And so I couldn’t go to restaurants. The layers. Because I was just like, “It’s going to be 100 degrees in the restaurant.”
ALEX COOPER: (00:12:16 – 00:12:19) And push it towards me if you can. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Perfect.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:12:19 – 00:12:19) Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: (00:12:19 – 00:12:37) If not, I’ll get you a blanket. Perfect. Okay, so we’re in New York City. You’re a model, basically. You’re stunning, gorgeous. Yeah. You’re from Kentucky.
So when you go back to Kentucky before you move to New York and you tell all of your friends, “I’m moving to New York City to pursue this,” were all of your friends like, “Oh, that’s so classic Jen”? Or were they like, “What do you mean you’re doing this?”
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:12:38 – 00:12:41) Well, they all thought I was lying because I was a prolific liar.
ALEX COOPER: (00:12:41 – 00:12:49) Oh, you’re kind of a pathological liar, huh? You’re kind of— not anymore. Nothing you say this entire interview is honest.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:12:49 – 00:13:04) I’m actually from Arizona. No, I don’t lie in interviews because I just assume everybody can look something up and there’s nothing more embarrassing than getting caught in a lie. Let me tell you, in elementary school I told everyone I had a wooden leg and when they found out I didn’t.
ALEX COOPER: (00:13:05 – 00:13:07) Did you not wear skirts or shorts ever?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:13:07 – 00:13:08) No.
ALEX COOPER: (00:13:08 – 00:13:09) Wait.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:13:10 – 00:13:11) That feels like a lie.
ALEX COOPER: (00:13:11 – 00:13:14) Keep going with that. People thought you were.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:13:14 – 00:13:21) I’m like no, I didn’t wear skirts because I went to a religious school where it just keeps going.
ALEX COOPER: (00:13:21 – 00:13:27) So you said that you had a wooden leg. So that kind of paints the picture. I was going to say, what were you like as a teenager?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:13:27 – 00:13:50) Well, me as a teenager, it was a little more complicated because I was completely unsocialized, as anybody who’s seen me in an interview can see.
But I left Kentucky, left school when I was 14, and worked and homeschooled. I mean, I don’t really homeschool, but so I wasn’t around kids. I was a little weird.
ALEX COOPER: (00:13:50 – 00:13:53) So, and were you comfortable with adults or you were just not comfortable with anyone?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:13:54 – 00:14:02) I’m sure I was comfortable with adults, but I mean, I don’t think adults were like, “Wow, what a cool, what a great hang. Wow.” And I definitely don’t think anybody was like, “She’s mature.”
ALEX COOPER: (00:14:03 – 00:14:11) Okay, that’s fair. So as someone who didn’t grow up though, you didn’t want to be an actress at 6 years old. You weren’t like, “This, I’m made for the movies.”
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:14:11 – 00:14:33) No, it was never something that really crossed my mind. I just wouldn’t have thought that it was a possibility.
Looking back, in retrospect, we can see signs. I would walk out the door and ring the doorbell as different characters, asking to use the phone. And we can look back through photo albums and be like, “Ah, an actor.”
ALEX COOPER: (00:14:33 – 00:14:35) Yes. What did you want to be growing up?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:14:36 – 00:14:46) I thought I was going to be a doctor, an interior designer. I have no gift towards that at all. These are just jobs I knew about. Range.
ALEX COOPER: (00:14:48 – 00:14:49) That’s good. A doctor.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:14:49 – 00:14:53) Mm-hmm. That also can decorate your house. Okay.
ALEX COOPER: (00:14:54 – 00:15:00) So you end up becoming an actress, obviously. And I today kind of wanted to go down memory lane now that you’re getting warmed up.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:15:00 – 00:15:01) Mm-hmm.
ALEX COOPER: (00:15:01 – 00:15:01) Physically.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:15:01 – 00:15:02) Mm-hmm.
ALEX COOPER: (00:15:02 – 00:15:02) And verbally.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:15:03 – 00:15:03) Yes.
The Hunger Games: Auditioning for Katniss
ALEX COOPER: (00:15:03 – 00:17:02) Okay, so I’m going to show you a picture. Give me your first reaction and then we’re going to get into it.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:17:02 – 00:17:04) Okay. Hunger Games.
ALEX COOPER: (00:17:05 – 00:17:13) Okay, you’re 20 years old when you get Katniss. I need to know what you remember about going in for reading this audition.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:17:13 – 00:17:38) Oh, God. Skinny jeans. I remember stopping to buy candy before and eating it in the parking lot. And then it was at the director, Gary Ross’s house, in his office above the garage. And he cried in my audition. So I was like, “That seems like a good sign.”
ALEX COOPER: (00:17:38 – 00:17:41) Did you think you got the part? You’re like, “Just good signs”?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:17:42 – 00:17:49) No, I don’t think I thought it. Yeah, especially because you’re so— you’re so, what’s that word? I don’t have a word. Suspicious?
ALEX COOPER: (00:17:49 – 00:17:52) Yeah, yeah, superstitious about— yeah, you’re like, “I don’t want to jinx anything.”
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:17:52 – 00:17:53) Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: (00:17:53 – 00:17:55) And did they film it? Have you ever rewatched your audition tape?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:17:55 – 00:17:59) They did film it, but please don’t really. I don’t ever want to see one of those. Oh my God, ever.
ALEX COOPER: (00:17:59 – 00:18:02) But if it made people cry, Jen, this is good.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:18:02 – 00:18:05) I don’t care. I don’t know what I was wearing. I know it wasn’t good. You don’t want to go back
ALEX COOPER: (00:18:05 – 00:18:05) to that. You don’t want to relive
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:18:07 – 00:18:10) No, I’m like, why did I stop my car and eat a bag of candy?
ALEX COOPER: (00:18:11 – 00:18:12) Well, it clearly worked.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:18:12 – 00:18:12) Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: (00:18:12 – 00:18:25) Obviously, The Hunger Games did have a massive fan base because of the books. Were you at all nervous once you got cast? Because fans are very intense about book series, and it’s a lot to live up to.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:18:26 – 00:18:29) That’s not what made me nervous, ’cause I don’t think I knew about that.
ALEX COOPER: (00:18:29 – 00:18:29) Yeah.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:18:29 – 00:19:08) What made me nervous was just the way— I was afraid that it could negatively affect my acting career. I was like, and just my personal life, because the one thing that I was always sure of when I was younger, it was, “I want to be a mom.”
And I was just like, this just looks so different than doing some indies and doing a film here. This is huge. Because Twilight had just come out and everybody saw what that was. And so it was really just more like, how is this going to change my life and my acting career?
ALEX COOPER: (00:19:09 – 00:19:10) And then it did forever.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:19:10 – 00:19:14) And then— but as we’ve established, from 14, I just kind of do things. I just keep—
ALEX COOPER: (00:19:15 – 00:19:16) You’re like, “It’s fine. Everything’s going to be fine.”
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:19:16 – 00:19:17) I’ll figure it out when I get there.
ALEX COOPER: (00:19:18 – 00:19:22) Do you remember your first day on set with the entire cast?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:19:22 – 00:19:58) Yeah, I remember day one. Yes. Day one. Because we were doing the reaping stuff. Not “I volunteer,” but that— set and Prim stuff at the house. Oh, my God. And I remember I was doing a scene where I was in a washbasin in a very old house in North Carolina. It was a historical house.
And I saw a fly, and I punched it through a window and shattered the window. And everyone was like, “Why did you do that?” That— I do remember that from my first day. Sorry, but what was the question?
ALEX COOPER: (00:19:58 – 00:20:01) The vibe? Well, I don’t know, but why did we— why did you do that?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:20:01 – 00:20:03) I don’t know. It’s just something moved me.
ALEX COOPER: (00:20:06 – 00:20:09) Okay, so did you— and did you feel very confident on that set?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:20:09 – 00:20:10) Yes.
ALEX COOPER: (00:20:10 – 00:20:16) Why do you think that is? Because that’s your big first, first job, and like you said, you were aware of how big it was going to be. Where do you think you—
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:20:17 – 00:20:43) I think because I had made the decision. So I— it was— I had taken the time I thought about it before I said yes. I asked them to give me a few days, and I thought about it.
And then I had months to prepare. And it was a lot of physical preparation and stunt training and a lot of archery and stuff. So by the time I got there, I was like—
ALEX COOPER: (00:20:43 – 00:20:43) You were ready.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:20:43 – 00:20:44) Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: (00:20:45 – 00:20:57) I do remember obviously how intensive it was. You’re like, “I’m actually doing physical activities during this.” Do you remember what was one of the crazy scenes where you’re like, “I can’t believe I’m doing this as an actress right now”?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:20:57 – 00:21:30) Yeah. There was a scene where I’m running down a mountain, and there are fireballs being fired at me. And none of it was CGI. I mean, I guess the— but everything really was exploding and catching on fire.
And you couldn’t— if you strayed away from your trail, which is not clear because if they put red tape or something, you’ll see it. So you just kind of have a general idea of where to go, and if you’re wrong, you will blow up.
ALEX COOPER: (00:21:30 – 00:21:33) I feel like I love this job so much. This is so fun.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:21:33 – 00:21:34) Yeah, thank you.
ALEX COOPER: (00:21:36 – 00:21:36) Okay, next.
Catching Fire, Team Gale and The Summer I Turned Pretty Backlash
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:21:39 – 00:21:40) Catching Fire.
ALEX COOPER: (00:21:40 – 00:21:41) You and Josh.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:21:41 – 00:21:44) Me and Josh. That is my baby.
ALEX COOPER: (00:21:44 – 00:21:48) I don’t know if this is controversial to say, but I was kind of Team Gale.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:21:49 – 00:21:49) Totally.
ALEX COOPER: (00:21:54 – 00:21:59) Now, now we could settle the debate here. Were you Team Peeta or were you Team Gale?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:22:01 – 00:22:08) I was Team Gale even after he killed my sister.
ALEX COOPER: (00:22:09 – 00:22:10) Still riding for him.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:22:11 – 00:22:11) Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: (00:22:11 – 00:22:13) Do you think that that will cause controversy on the internet?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:22:14 – 00:22:27) I can’t say because I said that I was Team Jeremiah during The Summer I Turned Pretty, and the level of hate that I got was bigger than any controversy I’ve ever been involved in in my life.
ALEX COOPER: (00:22:28 – 00:22:28) Talk to me about that.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:22:29 – 00:22:46) I don’t— I— it literally was, I feel like I was just rage-baiting slightly because I did it with my friends. It was just like, “I like Jeremiah.” And they’d be like, “Ah!” I thought it was innocent. It was— people were like, “You should die. You should die.” And
ALEX COOPER: (00:22:46 – 00:22:50) it is wild to insert yourself in that, especially who you are.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:22:50 – 00:22:51) Oh, so you agree with them?
ALEX COOPER: (00:22:51 – 00:23:03) No, I just— I’m shocked that, I do like that you just sling it and you’re like, “Oh, I’m just going to tell you what I think.” But it’s definitely the take that’s not—
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:23:03 – 00:23:33) I guess I could— I guess my response to you— Yeah, give me the response. Thank you so much for your feedback. I guess my response to your feedback would be, how on earth would I have assumed that such a thing would cause such—
I’ve been involved in a lot, and I’ve pissed off the public many, many times. I’m old. I’ve been famous for decades. It never occurred to me that that would be the number one where people were just like, “I wish you had never been born.”
ALEX COOPER: (00:23:35 – 00:23:39) It’s similar to if you were someone who got involved in Love Island drama.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:23:39 – 00:23:42) Does that make sense? Award-winning journalism.
ALEX COOPER: (00:23:42 – 00:23:46) When he showed up in his overalls, I knew we had gold on our hands.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:23:46 – 00:23:48) Yes,
ALEX COOPER: (00:23:49 – 00:23:51) it was something for culture.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:23:51 – 00:23:53) You were perfect. You are perfect.
Liam Hemsworth, Tuna and Returning to the Franchise
ALEX COOPER: (00:23:55 – 00:24:04) Thank you. Okay, I obviously know famously Liam Hemsworth claimed that you would eat tuna and garlic before kissing him. Why? Why did you do that?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:24:04 – 00:24:27) I, I didn’t. He’s just— I think that, I don’t even know where— what to say, Liam. We are filming for many months, and filming takes a lot of time. He made it seem like I— that’s just something I did on purpose. I would just— I would eat
ALEX COOPER: (00:24:27 – 00:24:27) tuna
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:24:28 – 00:24:31) and tuna, what have you.
ALEX COOPER: (00:24:31 – 00:24:31) Do you like tuna?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:24:32 – 00:24:32) I do.
ALEX COOPER: (00:24:32 – 00:24:33) I do too.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:24:33 – 00:24:34) Tuna salad, tuna melt.
ALEX COOPER: (00:24:34 – 00:24:35) But it’s really controversial.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:24:36 – 00:24:36) Why?
ALEX COOPER: (00:24:36 – 00:24:38) You’re going to get canceled again. Really?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:24:38 – 00:24:38) Why is it controversial?
ALEX COOPER: (00:24:38 – 00:24:57) Oh, I feel like every time I tell people I like tuna, okay, don’t you— come on, don’t you kind of feel like when you’re at a restaurant or you’re with people, and of course it’s your husband because he knows, whatever, but if you’re with people that maybe don’t know you and you’re like, “I’ll have the tuna,” whatever, there’s a little side eye.
People kind of look at you like, “You’re getting the tuna?” I think people think it’s kind of nasty.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:24:58 – 00:25:02) Oh, I’m sure it is. I need food to taste processed.
ALEX COOPER: (00:25:02 – 00:25:04) You’re going to muddy up that tuna.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:25:04 – 00:25:04) Yeah,
ALEX COOPER: (00:25:04 – 00:25:05) with a bunch of
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:25:05 – 00:25:10) relish, mayo, Zesta crackers. Sorry, go on.
ALEX COOPER: (00:25:10 – 00:25:16) Okay, you and Josh are going to be in the new movie. What was it like to go back?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:25:16 – 00:25:42) Oh my, unbelievable. It was so crazy because it was the same crew, it was the same camera guys, the same AD who I’ve worked with a million times ’cause I love him, and Josh and Woody.
And it was so emotional. Josh and I didn’t walk to the bathroom without our arms around each other. It was so beautiful.
ALEX COOPER: (00:25:42 – 00:25:44) That’s really cute. I’m excited.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:25:44 – 00:25:49) And Woody obviously came through the window of my hotel room uninvited, ’cause it would not be—
ALEX COOPER: (00:25:49 – 00:25:50) The same.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:25:50 – 00:25:53) It wouldn’t be the same if he listened to boundaries and used a door.
Silver Linings Playbook and Bradley Cooper
ALEX COOPER: (00:25:54 – 00:25:59) Obviously not. I’m going to show you this next one. It’s one of my all-time favorites.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:25:59 – 00:26:01) That’s Silver Linings Playbook.
ALEX COOPER: (00:26:01 – 00:26:07) Did you have any idea when you were filming that movie, during the process of it, how big it was going to get?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:26:07 – 00:26:18) No, of course not. I mean, you never really do unless you’re making The Hunger Games or whatever. But no, no. And I felt the whole time like I did— I don’t get it. What is this movie about? I don’t get it. Yeah,
ALEX COOPER: (00:26:19 – 00:26:26) I guess you kind of leaned into that though with your character, right? You just— you went into— sure, you’re like, “Honestly, whatever you took from that, perfect.”
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:26:27 – 00:26:27) Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: (00:26:27 – 00:26:36) So, at the time, obviously, Bradley was one of the biggest, and obviously still is, one of the biggest actors in Hollywood. What was it like meeting him for the first time?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:26:37 – 00:26:44) I was definitely nervous. He was— he was in The Hangover. And if— I mean, what— everybody here— you weren’t even born when The Hangover came out.
ALEX COOPER: (00:26:44 – 00:26:47) Excuse you. I was a big fan of The Hangover.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:26:47 – 00:26:54) And so, yeah, he was the biggest celebrity I think I’d ever met at the time. And I was like, “Watch this. Hold my beer.”
ALEX COOPER: (00:26:56 – 00:26:59) You guys then go into dance rehearsals, right? Because you had to do a lot. What was the vibe?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:26:59 – 00:27:00) I was confident.
ALEX COOPER: (00:27:00 – 00:27:01) There’s our girl.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:27:01 – 00:27:26) And I’m so bad. After we finished filming, I had to do ADR to say, “Yeah, I’m not that good of a dancer, but I like it. It’s fun. It makes me happy.” Because my dancing was so bad, and it needed to be explained in the movie.
And if you had put a gun to my head while we were shooting, I would’ve been like, “I’m really, really good. I’m an amazing dancer.”
ALEX COOPER: (00:27:26 – 00:27:29) They’re like, “Hey, Jen, we’re just going to need a backup line. We may not use it.”
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:27:29 – 00:27:30) Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: (00:27:30 – 00:27:30) But Jen— and you’re like—
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:27:30 – 00:27:33) I know. I’m reading the— I’m like, “I’m not that good of a—” hey.
ALEX COOPER: (00:27:35 – 00:27:37) Okay, that’s good to know. So it humbled you a little bit.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:27:37 – 00:27:38) Not even.
ALEX COOPER: (00:27:38 – 00:27:38) Oh, okay.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:27:38 – 00:27:42) I was just like, they probably just need that as an option. My character’s probably just really humble.
ALEX COOPER: (00:27:43 – 00:27:44) Great for character development. Yeah.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:27:44 – 00:27:46) What else can I dance in?
ALEX COOPER: (00:27:46 – 00:27:51) Looking back, what was one of your favorite memories from filming that movie?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:27:51 – 00:28:14) When Bradley and I had a big makeout session at the end of the movie, and I said, “Aren’t you so sick of kissing?” And he didn’t like that. But I think he laughed.
But it just was funny. It was one of those moments where you’re trying— you’re like, “Right?” And the other person’s like, “Oh.”
ALEX COOPER: (00:28:15 – 00:28:16) You’re like, “Oh, well,
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:28:16 – 00:28:16) no,
ALEX COOPER: (00:28:16 – 00:28:17) I thought— I’m
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:28:17 – 00:28:17) sorry,
ALEX COOPER: (00:28:17 – 00:28:19) are you saying I’m bad?”
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:28:19 – 00:28:21) Yeah, but he laughed.
X-Men: First Class and Speaking Up on Set
ALEX COOPER: (00:28:21 – 00:28:23) Next and last,
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:28:23 – 00:28:32) LOL. LOL, LOL. That is Mystique, on the first, First Class, X-Men: First Class.
ALEX COOPER: (00:28:32 – 00:28:36) And the amount of prosthetics and costume and makeup and all that was
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:28:36 – 00:28:46) crazy. So for First Class which is what that one is, it was all body paint and glue, and it was 8 hours every time.
ALEX COOPER: (00:28:46 – 00:28:46) No.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:28:47 – 00:28:52) And ticklish and hurt. You’ve had airbrushing.
ALEX COOPER: (00:28:52 – 00:28:52) Yeah, yeah.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:28:52 – 00:29:01) Imagine 12 tiny, cold, compressing airbrushes all over your body. No, I’m— I’m a hero, and no one will ever understand what I went through.
ALEX COOPER: (00:29:01 – 00:29:02) And no one talks about it enough.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:29:03 – 00:29:03) No.
ALEX COOPER: (00:29:03 – 00:29:04) That’s why I brought it here today.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:29:04 – 00:29:04) Thank you.
ALEX COOPER: (00:29:04 – 00:29:05) I wanted to give you your moment.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:29:06 – 00:29:06) Thank you.
ALEX COOPER: (00:29:06 – 00:29:08) But how many times have you had to do
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:29:08 – 00:29:10) it? And you can donate to
ALEX COOPER: (00:29:10 – 00:29:24) my GoFundMe. Do you feel like you’ve gotten more comfortable advocating for yourself in moments in your career where you’re like, “Oh, I don’t really want to wear that, or I don’t want to do that”? Or do you still feel like you’re kind of malleable in moments when people need you to be what they want you to be?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:29:25 – 00:30:35) I think you have to be malleable. That’s part of the job. So Lynne Ramsay for Die My Love wanted me to cut my hair and get mullet bangs and dye it platinum blonde. And that’s the gig. I ended up loving the hair, but I didn’t think I was going to. Yeah, you have to be malleable.
I think I’m definitely— I speak up more because I’m also aware of the place that I have in the industry. So, there was an instance on set where crew members who weren’t approved when I was doing nudity were on set or something, and I came down hard on it purely because if we’re not setting that kind of principle at the level at which we’re doing it right now, then what on earth is going to happen to an 18-year-old unknown, if she shows up and there’s people that aren’t approved.
It’s— she’s going to be in a position like, “Do I say something and get a reputation for being difficult, or do I just let these people that I’m not comfortable see me naked?” So it was important to me to explain that to the people why that was not okay.
Likability, Hair and the Infamous Pixie Cut
ALEX COOPER: (00:30:35 – 00:30:48) It is great. I also think it’s such a weird thing where, especially as women, you’re like, “Oh wow,” I you slowly gain more power as you have more success in this industry. And power I use lightly because still as women it’s like they— yeah,
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:30:48 – 00:30:51) because you can’t use it. No, no, then they’ll get mad at you.
ALEX COOPER: (00:30:51 – 00:31:16) Yeah, yeah. But you’re like, “Oh, maybe I could say a little something for these people in this position.” Maybe then when I— you couldn’t have said that back all the way. Maybe yeah, Hunger Games, let’s say, where you were just starting off.
And I think something that I have even struggled with in my career is we have to be aware of our likability. Where do you find the balance now where you’re sitting today of stressed as a woman in this industry about if people like you or not?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:31:16 – 00:32:31) It’s— you can’t let it influence your decisions. Getting into the hair space is like, I’m sure people are going to have a lot to say. And I think that’s— I think it’s scary.
This is the first time I’m doing something that I have— I really don’t have experience with this. Nothing to kind of fall back on because I’ve dealt stress in the film industry. There’s not really a scenario that I’m handling that I haven’t handled before, or in some capacity, have some sort of— and this is new for me.
So, but I feel really confident. I feel really too confident. Excited to move forward with it. And I mean, the transition to me makes sense. It doesn’t have to make sense to anybody else.
But when I was starting out for the Mystique, the other part of that character, Raven, they dyed my hair 5 different colors just on the screen test, in a day. They dyed my hair red, brown, black, and then platinum blonde.
ALEX COOPER: (00:32:31 – 00:32:32) How did you not lose all your hair?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:32:32 – 00:32:32) I don’t know.
ALEX COOPER: (00:32:32 – 00:32:33) Oh,
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:32:33 – 00:32:35) because I was using meth.
ALEX COOPER: (00:32:35 – 00:32:35) Yes,
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:32:36 – 00:33:18) 20 years ago I was using it. But it was obviously fried, and I had no agency over my hair. It wasn’t until I got— I was in The Hunger Games, and I really wanted to use a wig because I was tired of dyeing my hair brown. And they were refusing to give me a wig.
And so I had my first tiny little protest of giving myself the worst haircut anyone has ever seen in their life, which was the pixie, famously.
Do you know how embarrassing it was to be on a date with my now husband? I’d be on a second date with him and I’d be like, “Has he seen those pictures of me?”
ALEX COOPER: (00:33:19 – 00:33:19) The pixie?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:33:20 – 00:33:25) Yeah, having a crush on somebody and knowing that those pictures are out on the internet anyway.
ALEX COOPER: (00:33:25 – 00:33:27) But he didn’t know you when you had the pixie.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:33:27 – 00:33:28) He didn’t know me then. So,
ALEX COOPER: (00:33:28 – 00:33:28) you
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:33:28 – 00:33:34) know, but I was just like, “I have a crush on you, please don’t Google me. Please don’t Google me around 2003.”
ALEX COOPER: (00:33:34 – 00:33:35) Those will be the first photos that come up.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:33:36 – 00:34:01) So once all my hair was off, growing it back, I just became obsessive about the health. And so I don’t know, I’m excited by it. And it’s— I have a lot of creative energy that I’m excited to expand on.
So, and I know that they’re good. I know that the products work and that they’re good. So that obviously is a huge relief. I know that part. I can sleep at night.
ALEX COOPER: (00:34:01 – 00:34:06) That will stand the test of time. If you’ve got a great product, then you can kind of sit back, relax, and you can enjoy the show.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:34:06 – 00:34:07) Yeah.
Motherhood and Postpartum
ALEX COOPER: (00:34:07 – 00:36:10) Okay, let’s transition. I want to talk to you about motherhood because we’ve been referencing our brains a little bit in this interview, and I appreciate you meeting me there.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:36:10 – 00:36:11) Totally.
ALEX COOPER: (00:36:11 – 00:36:26) I think that’s something a lot of people talk about is their readiness to be a mom, right? “Oh my gosh, how did you know you were ready? And did you feel ready?” And there’s been so many people asking me that question, and I was curious for you personally, what was that experience like? Did you know, “Okay, now’s the time”?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:36:26 – 00:36:53) I wanted to be a mom for so long and didn’t find the right person. And then I found the right person, and then we were married, and then we wanted to be married for the right time.
So I kind of, I wanted it so badly that I kind of waited for him to be like, “Okay, it is now an acceptable time for you to ask me for a child.” And I was like, “Please.” But I felt ready. But I also, there’s also, I understand when people are like, “You’re never going to feel ready.”
ALEX COOPER: (00:36:53 – 00:36:55) What were you completely unprepared for?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:36:58 – 00:37:02) Your vagina will bounce back. Your butthole won’t.
ALEX COOPER: (00:37:03 – 00:37:09) I don’t know if I needed to hear that before giving birth. I’m like, “Wow.” Wow, Jen.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:37:09 – 00:37:31) Unprepared. You’re unprepared for all of it. Yeah. I— all of it. And everybody’s like, “Your instincts, your instincts.” You have no idea what you’re doing.
There’s no— I remember women being like, “You’ll be able to hear the difference with the cries.” And then I’m like, “I can’t hear the difference with the cries. I’m such a bad mom.” Jen, what’s going to happen to my butthole? I’ll tell you. I, I will tell you when—
ALEX COOPER: (00:37:31 – 00:37:31) Really?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:37:32 – 00:37:36) Once I can get into a heated place. No, I’ll show you.
ALEX COOPER: (00:37:37 – 00:37:41) Oh wow, because you know what, I guess no one said that to me yet.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:37:41 – 00:37:42) What? Really? Weird.
ALEX COOPER: (00:37:42 – 00:37:50) No, no one said that to me. And I’ve had someone be like, “Do you want to see my birth video?” And I’m like, “No, because I don’t want to— I don’t want to know yet.”
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:37:50 – 00:37:53) That person sounds really, really gross and weird.
ALEX COOPER: (00:37:53 – 00:37:55) You, literally 5 minutes ago.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:37:55 – 00:37:55) Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: (00:37:55 – 00:38:01) But I, I, yeah, I’m okay. I’ll, and we’re going to circle back before you leave on just,
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:38:01 – 00:38:01) okay,
ALEX COOPER: (00:38:01 – 00:38:02) what you meant by that.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:38:02 – 00:38:05) Okay. And I need 3 minutes.
ALEX COOPER: (00:38:05 – 00:38:13) Yeah. And by the time you explain it to me, can you lie to my face? Because you are a good liar. Whatever you were, what the honest truth is, lie. Cuz I still gotta, I gotta do it.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:38:13 – 00:38:13) Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: (00:38:13 – 00:38:16) And I don’t want to be giving birth thinking, “What did you say about my asshole?”
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:38:16 – 00:38:19) There’s no going back. That thing’s coming out.
ALEX COOPER: (00:38:19 – 00:38:24) I know. But okay. How has it changed your relationship with yourself?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:38:25 – 00:38:31) I mean, I just— I’m so ruled by guilt. I’m trying not to be. I’m— you know what? I’m not ruled by guilt. Why?
ALEX COOPER: (00:38:32 – 00:38:33) What do you mean?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:38:33 – 00:39:04) You just— you’re never doing enough. You’re never there enough. But if you’re there too much, then they’re too attached, and then they’re never going to go to school. And you’re just never— I don’t think I’ve ever just gotten into bed and been like, “Wow, God, I’m such a good mom.”
And I know I’m a good mom. I know. And I— it’s just, it’s hard to pat yourself on the back because this job is so important and you love your kids so much that it’s hard to just be like, “Good job.”
ALEX COOPER: (00:39:05 – 00:39:09) And you can hear it from maybe other people be like, “You’re doing a great job,” but you yourself, it’s hard.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:39:09 – 00:39:10) Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ALEX COOPER: (00:39:10 – 00:39:12) How has it changed your approach to your career?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:39:12 – 00:39:48) It has been really great for my career in the way that not for my career, but for my work. I’ve never really needed structured time before. I have never had to kind of structure my time.
And so when you have kids, you have to be very mindful about what hours are spent where, what you’re going to do, or you’re not going to get anything done and you’re going to fail at both.
So I’m really structured with my time now, which is just something that I never thought about or saw for myself.
ALEX COOPER: (00:39:48 – 00:39:59) Okay, so to me, give me one piece of advice that I’m opening it up. You’re allowed to give me advice. New mom coming into this, what should or should I not do?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:40:00 – 00:40:21) Don’t start— don’t worry that your kid is bored. Don’t— when they get into the car seat, don’t just hand them something right away. And that’s something that you have to get over because you’ll be like, “They’re bored, they’re bored, they’re this, they’re that.”
And it’s like, they’re not, they’re not. Their neurons are quadrupling and they’re seeing a tree.
ALEX COOPER: (00:40:21 – 00:40:22) They’ve never seen a tree before.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:40:22 – 00:40:26) Yeah. And don’t just give them a vice.
ALEX COOPER: (00:40:26 – 00:40:40) Okay. How has being a mom and a career woman and a wife, all the things, impacted your female friendships? Yeah, well, me literally clenching my butthole for the rest of this whole interview being like, “No, how has it affected your friendships?”
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:40:41 – 00:40:41) Do you
ALEX COOPER: (00:40:41 – 00:40:42) have friends?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:40:42 – 00:41:17) They’re over. They’re done. I don’t know. The mom community is so important and helped me so much. Going to the baby classes and moms from school.
I remember when I had bad postpartum with my second, I got on the elevator and one of the moms was just like, “Are you okay?” And I just wasn’t. And I was just like, “I’m really scared every day. I have such bad anxiety. I feel like I’m being chased by a tiger.”
And one of the moms heard and hugged me and just gave me her number and just talk to me. The mom community is really amazing.
ALEX COOPER: (00:41:18 – 00:41:43) It really is. And I, again, prior to even thinking about having a kid, would have just been like, “Okay, I can’t relate to that.” And now being pregnant, so much of what I’ve been going through, it has been really nice to see other women who are like, “Oh my God, don’t worry, I’ve done that before and I’ve messed that up and all the things.”
It makes you feel way less alone because again, I love my husband and he really is my partner in all this, but I’m like, “You literally don’t understand what I’m physically going through.”
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:41:44 – 00:41:44) Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: (00:41:44 – 00:41:49) So to have another woman talk to me about her butthole. It’s just something that Matt and I will never connect on. Do you know what I mean?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:41:49 – 00:41:49) You’re a butthole too.
ALEX COOPER: (00:41:50 – 00:43:20) Yeah, yeah. He just— he’ll just never understand it. Yeah.
Secret TikTok and Online Rage Bait
ALEX COOPER: (00:41:50 – 00:43:20) You have a secret TikTok?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:43:21 – 00:43:21) I do.
ALEX COOPER: (00:43:22 – 00:43:24) That you use to rage bait people in the comments?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:43:25 – 00:43:30) Yeah, and I think I’m just going to take that live. I think I’m just going to— it’s about time I just take the mask off.
ALEX COOPER: (00:43:30 – 00:43:31) Really?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:43:31 – 00:43:38) Yeah, I think so, because I’m literally— I’m arguing about Victorian ancestry.
ALEX COOPER: (00:43:38 – 00:43:40) Wait, yeah, yeah, wait, what’s on your For You page?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:43:41 – 00:43:47) My FYP is the long skincare things.
ALEX COOPER: (00:43:47 – 00:43:47) Okay.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:43:47 – 00:43:49) Where the girls wake up and they’re like—
ALEX COOPER: (00:43:51 – 00:43:55) oh yeah, those ones where they’re wearing the whole shield over their hair and they take it off and roll it.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:43:55 – 00:43:57) By the way, your pores can’t breathe.
ALEX COOPER: (00:43:57 – 00:43:57) No,
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:43:57 – 00:43:58) you can’t sleep like that.
ALEX COOPER: (00:43:59 – 00:44:01) And also, how do you sleep like that? It’s a whole thing, the rollers.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:44:01 – 00:44:10) No, I don’t. Hair. A lot of hair stuff. And recipes.
ALEX COOPER: (00:44:11 – 00:44:11) Oh, you’re a cook?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:44:12 – 00:44:12) Well,
ALEX COOPER: (00:44:13 – 00:44:13) oh,
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:44:13 – 00:44:14) I can cook.
ALEX COOPER: (00:44:14 – 00:44:14) Yeah,
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:44:14 – 00:44:16) I, I haven’t cooked as much.
ALEX COOPER: (00:44:16 – 00:44:17) Okay.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:44:17 – 00:44:17) Lately.
ALEX COOPER: (00:44:18 – 00:44:20) So have you gotten into any fights online?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:44:21 – 00:44:22) With other celebrities?
ALEX COOPER: (00:44:22 – 00:44:23) No.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:44:23 – 00:44:25) Oh, with strangers? All the time. Every day.
ALEX COOPER: (00:44:26 – 00:44:27) What are you fighting about?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:44:27 – 00:44:32) I told you. English Tudor history.
ALEX COOPER: (00:44:33 – 00:44:35) What are— and what’s your take? What are we saying?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:44:35 – 00:44:38) It depends on what the situation is.
ALEX COOPER: (00:44:38 – 00:44:44) And are you doing this while you’re sitting on the toilet? While you’re in the car? When are you most rage baiting people?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:44:44 – 00:44:47) God, can you imagine sitting on the toilet without your phone?
ALEX COOPER: (00:44:48 – 00:44:48) No, I
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:44:48 – 00:44:50) literally got up.
ALEX COOPER: (00:44:50 – 00:44:54) I literally got up the other day because I was like, “I gotta go get it before I go to sit down.”
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:44:54 – 00:44:57) Yeah, I know, I know. Isn’t that so dark?
ALEX COOPER: (00:44:57 – 00:44:58) Yeah, well, it’s so lonely. I know.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:44:58 – 00:45:06) I’ll sometimes put a podcast in to walk from my bedroom downstairs to my kitchen. What am I going to listen to on these 13 steps?
ALEX COOPER: (00:45:06 – 00:45:08) Because you’re doing your best ragebait comments maybe
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:45:11 – 00:45:15) all day, every day. There’s not really— yeah, if I’m breathing, I’m ragebaiting.
Hot Takes: Spotify Wrapped and Red Carpet Glambots
ALEX COOPER: (00:45:16 – 00:45:20) Let me get your take on a couple things. How do we feel about people who post their Spotify Wrapped at the end of the year?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:45:21 – 00:45:26) I, I’m— I find that really uncomfortable. I don’t know who could be that extroverted.
ALEX COOPER: (00:45:26 – 00:45:27) What are you listening to?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:45:28 – 00:45:31) I listen to the same 3 songs. I, I don’t know how to find new music.
ALEX COOPER: (00:45:32 – 00:45:33) Name the 3 songs, Jen.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:45:34 – 00:45:41) I really, really don’t want to do that. I, I can’t. I— that’s too private. It’s so private.
ALEX COOPER: (00:45:41 – 00:45:42) It’s so incredible.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:45:42 – 00:45:46) Of all the things we’ve talked about today, that is so deeply private.
ALEX COOPER: (00:45:47 – 00:45:50) Even when my Spotify Wrapped does happen, I don’t want to look at it.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:45:50 – 00:46:02) I feel like if we were listening to a song and you were like, “What are you imagining right now?” And I had to tell you. And I’m like, “I’m a record producer and I wrote this song.”
ALEX COOPER: (00:46:02 – 00:46:05) When you would go on dates with men and they’re like, “What kind of music do you like?”
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:46:05 – 00:46:09) Oh yeah. Oh, just check.
ALEX COOPER: (00:46:11 – 00:46:16) There’s— I don’t even, I don’t even know. I’ve lied in the past to be— I’m like, “Well, what do you like?” I’m like, “Same.” Because it’s just too vulnerable.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:46:18 – 00:46:20) Yeah, my answer used to be— God, I hate this.
ALEX COOPER: (00:46:20 – 00:46:21) Okay, give it.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:46:21 – 00:46:29) “Good of everything.” But that’s not true. I really— I cannot stand the sound of a saxophone. It does something to my inner ear.
ALEX COOPER: (00:46:29 – 00:46:30) Oh, good to know.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:46:30 – 00:46:31) I just— ugh, I hate it.
ALEX COOPER: (00:46:31 – 00:46:35) Okay. How do you feel about Glambots on the red carpet?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:46:35 – 00:46:36) What is that?
ALEX COOPER: (00:46:36 – 00:46:36) You know.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:46:37 – 00:46:38) Is that somebody who’s a computer?
ALEX COOPER: (00:46:38 – 00:46:45) No. You’re like, obviously I know what this is. It’s when you’re on the red carpet. You go to red carpets.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:46:45 – 00:46:46) I do.
ALEX COOPER: (00:46:46 – 00:46:52) Do they? They have these at the Oscars. They go one, two, three, and there’s a camera up here, and then it’s the one that moves, remember? And then you turn.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:46:53 – 00:46:58) Humiliating. I’ve humiliated. It’s not humiliating when other people do it, but the act of doing it is.
ALEX COOPER: (00:46:58 – 00:47:09) What do you think your clothes would be? They catch you right in the act where you’re like, yeah, bad, bad, bad. Yeah. I actually could see you just doing it and giving straight face.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:47:09 – 00:47:10) Yeah. And just be like.
ALEX COOPER: (00:47:10 – 00:47:15) No, no, no. That’s that would be yeah. Maybe you should do it next time you go on the carpet.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:47:15 – 00:47:15) Mm-hmm.
Reality TV Takes: Vanderpump Rules to The Hills
ALEX COOPER: (00:47:16 – 00:47:18) We gotta go reality TV takes. Okay.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:47:18 – 00:47:18) Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: (00:47:19 – 00:47:22) If you had to pick best reality TV show of all time,
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:47:22 – 00:47:26) Vanderpump Rules, the OG.
ALEX COOPER: (00:47:27 – 00:47:29) Yeah, specifically the first couple seasons. Yes.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:47:30 – 00:47:30) Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: (00:47:30 – 00:47:32) I don’t know what I did to you, but you can get me a Pinot Grigio. Yeah.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:47:32 – 00:47:32) Yeah,
ALEX COOPER: (00:47:33 – 00:47:34) yeah, yeah, yeah. Jax Taylor.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:47:34 – 00:47:37) Jax Taylor. Oh my God.
ALEX COOPER: (00:47:37 – 00:47:38) Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kristen Doute.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:47:39 – 00:47:39) Oh,
ALEX COOPER: (00:47:39 – 00:47:42) please. It was— something was in the air.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:47:43 – 00:47:43) Yeah,
ALEX COOPER: (00:47:43 – 00:47:50) I agree. I was trying to think about it and I was like, I think that I do have to give Jersey Shore credit because,
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:47:50 – 00:47:50) oh,
ALEX COOPER: (00:47:50 – 00:47:54) it’s, it’s— it really did something for culture.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:47:55 – 00:48:10) Here’s the thing, your question, what is the best reality TV show ever? You’re right, it is Jersey Shore, or The Real World, or, I think for me and my universe, I guess I would say Vanderpump Rules. No,
ALEX COOPER: (00:48:10 – 00:48:16) no, no. That’s actually fair. For you, it’s the best. No, for me, I would have been Laguna Beach and The Hills, for me coming up.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:48:16 – 00:48:20) Oh my God! Can you imagine? Remember LC’s purse with the big ring?
ALEX COOPER: (00:48:21 – 00:48:22) Do you remember her house?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:48:22 – 00:48:23) Yeah, of course.
ALEX COOPER: (00:48:23 – 00:48:23) Oh my!
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:48:24 – 00:48:24) Her dad.
ALEX COOPER: (00:48:26 – 00:48:42) Her dad. I was like, I’m sitting in my room eating my hair with my sister. We live in a cul-de-sac in Pennsylvania. I don’t even know where Los Angeles is on the map, and.
Sitting there watching these women and they are just so beautiful, so gorgeous. Their outfits, their everything.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:48:42 – 00:48:45) And they have boyfriends, full boyfriends who drive them in cars.
ALEX COOPER: (00:48:46 – 00:49:03) And they’re wearing the Chanel big glasses. And Jason picks her up in a convertible. I was so enthralled with that world and I couldn’t even imagine.
And then when Kristin Cavallari comes on the scene and oh my God, I was so obsessed with it. So I think it really impacted who I wanted to be. You
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:49:03 – 00:49:09) know, you are. And I want you to know that in my culture, I think in our shared culture, this is the nicest thing I could say to you.
ALEX COOPER: (00:49:09 – 00:49:10) Oh God,
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:49:10 – 00:49:13) you are as beautiful as Kristin Cavallari.
ALEX COOPER: (00:49:16 – 00:49:16) I—
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:49:16 – 00:49:18) please accept these compliments from my culture.
ALEX COOPER: (00:49:18 – 00:49:23) You’re gassing me up because you know I’m not feeling great about my preg— you know how I’m feeling. Thank you.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:49:23 – 00:49:23) I really believe that.
ALEX COOPER: (00:49:24 – 00:49:25) You are as beautiful as LC.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:49:25 – 00:49:26) Thank you.
ALEX COOPER: (00:49:26 – 00:49:30) We’re feeling good today. How do we feel about dad talk?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:49:31 – 00:49:43) Not, not good. I don’t like dads. I don’t. I hate it. I hate dad talk.
ALEX COOPER: (00:49:44 – 00:49:44) It
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:49:44 – 00:50:05) feels like you’re riding on their coattails, and also you are mad at them for the success that they have and for the income that they’re bringing into the home. Not only are you copying it, you are then belittling them. And you are angry at them that you didn’t do it first.
ALEX COOPER: (00:50:06 – 00:50:07) I so agree with you.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:50:07 – 00:50:08) God, I’m mad.
ALEX COOPER: (00:50:09 – 00:50:13) Fuck! Oh, we both start crying.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:50:13 – 00:50:14) Yeah.
Love Island, Love Is Blind and Dating Shows
ALEX COOPER: (00:50:15 – 00:50:21) Okay. What dating show? Let’s pretend you’re single. Your husband’s gone. Your kids don’t exist. We’re back in the day, Jen.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:50:21 – 00:50:21) Okay.
ALEX COOPER: (00:50:22 – 00:50:27) What dating show would you crush? If you went on this, you’re like, “I would be a rising star.”
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:50:28 – 00:50:34) Hmm, I love that. I think Love Island because it’s about the girlies.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:50:35 – 00:50:41) Because I wouldn’t be able to be competitive with— I would have to be like, “Well, if we’re not friends, I’m going to cry.”
ALEX COOPER: (00:50:41 – 00:50:46) Okay, and then you would feel good about pulling men for chats. Do you think your chat game is strong?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:50:47 – 00:50:47) No,
ALEX COOPER: (00:50:48 – 00:50:48) no,
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:50:48 – 00:50:57) I don’t think so. But I’m just trying to imagine me in Love Is Blind. I’ve just blacked— I was like, “I don’t like that.”
ALEX COOPER: (00:50:57 – 00:50:59) You’re like, “Are you getting claustrophobic in here?”
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:51:00 – 00:51:05) Revolutionary War. I was just arguing with somebody about— Oh yeah, because I wouldn’t have my phone.
ALEX COOPER: (00:51:05 – 00:51:05) No.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:51:05 – 00:51:11) So I would have to argue with the person in the wall next to me about historical facts.
ALEX COOPER: (00:51:11 – 00:51:13) I think you’d need to be in person, in eye contact under the canopy.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:51:13 – 00:51:26) Also, in Love Island, they’re only allowed 2 drinks or something. If I didn’t have kids and this was— and I’m uncomfortable and I don’t have my phone, oh my God. Yeah, I would have a seizure from drinking so much.
ALEX COOPER: (00:51:28 – 00:51:31) You’re bringing in a flask. You’re hiding a flask in your drawer. You’re having a good time.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:51:32 – 00:51:32) Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: (00:51:32 – 00:51:33) Okay. I could see you on Love Island.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:51:34 – 00:51:34) Thank you.
ALEX COOPER: (00:51:35 – 00:51:39) Oh my God. You should totally do a little appearance.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:51:39 – 00:51:40) Okay.
ALEX COOPER: (00:51:40 – 00:51:41) No, I mean—
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:51:41 – 00:51:43) No, no, no. I hear you. Great. I get it.
ALEX COOPER: (00:51:44 – 00:51:49) Megan Thee Stallion came in and hosted a challenge. Do you think— do you think you would ever do that?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:51:49 – 00:51:49) No.
Summer House, the Kardashians and the Housewives
ALEX COOPER: (00:51:49 – 00:51:54) No. Okay. Okay. Okay. Should Amanda and West have stayed on Summer House?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:51:56 – 00:52:55) Well, obviously I don’t know the ins and outs of their deal. I think she said something like she was getting a pay doc or something. So that’s— I mean, yes, I want them to continue to be on the show. But I don’t know what— I mean, God, it’s just. Just don’t do that.
There are other— it’s, if you have those feelings, sit with it for a minute, but just make other choices. It just— you don’t— if my friend came over and, tomorrow, if my friend was single and was dating a new guy, and he walked in and I was like, “Oh my God, this guy is so hot. Hot.”
You— I— you were just like, “Wow, that is something that I feel.” And then— and life goes on. Last thing I’m going to do is act on this.
ALEX COOPER: (00:52:55 – 00:53:03) Literally the last thing. Andy Cohen said that you helped him get to the bottom of the Summer House reunion audio leak. Can you please explain?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:53:04 – 00:53:07) I can confirm.
ALEX COOPER: (00:53:08 – 00:53:12) You can confirm, but you can’t explain? Okay, so you’re— you’re sleuthing.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:53:12 – 00:53:18) I— I did it in way— everything was public information. It was actually quite easy.
ALEX COOPER: (00:53:19 – 00:53:21) You’re in the chats. You’re in the channels.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:53:21 – 00:53:24) Yeah, I don’t mind my own business. That’s the thing about me.
ALEX COOPER: (00:53:26 – 00:53:31) And we all love that. Okay, who is Kris Jenner’s favorite daughter?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:53:33 – 00:53:35) Me. But Kylie, I think.
ALEX COOPER: (00:53:35 – 00:53:36) It’s got to be Kylie.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:53:36 – 00:53:36) Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: (00:53:36 – 00:53:39) It oscillates between Kylie and Kim. Kylie and Kim.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:53:39 – 00:53:42) Yeah. Well, I don’t know. Kendall’s on her locks. Or what?
ALEX COOPER: (00:53:43 – 00:53:44) It should be Khloé.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:53:45 – 00:53:47) Well, Khloé’s my favorite sister.
ALEX COOPER: (00:53:47 – 00:53:47) Me too.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:53:48 – 00:53:48) Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: (00:53:49 – 00:53:53) Which reality TV reunion would you be qualified to host?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:53:56 – 00:54:07) Be qualified to host? I don’t— I mean, none of them, because I can’t— I wouldn’t let any of them talk, and I wouldn’t— the men. Imagine if I was hosting The Valley.
ALEX COOPER: (00:54:07 – 00:54:10) Oh my God.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:54:10 – 00:54:13) Yeah. “Danny, you’re not going to—” couldn’t sit with us.
ALEX COOPER: (00:54:14 – 00:54:17) So you just kind of sit there and just take control?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:54:17 – 00:54:24) Yeah. And then if a man tried to speak, even if nobody else was speaking, I’d be like, “I’m speaking. Shut up.”
ALEX COOPER: (00:54:25 – 00:54:25) Yeah.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:54:25 – 00:54:26) Yeah,
ALEX COOPER: (00:54:26 – 00:54:28) yeah, yeah, yeah. A man to go on reality TV. It’s a lot.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:54:29 – 00:54:29) Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: (00:54:29 – 00:54:33) What is your Housewife tagline? You have to have thought about that.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:54:34 – 00:54:36) “My name’s Jennifer, and I can’t mind my own business.”
ALEX COOPER: (00:54:37 – 00:54:41) Love. Which Housewives fight was peak reality TV?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:54:42 – 00:54:45) Salt Lake City with the receipts timeline.
ALEX COOPER: (00:54:45 – 00:54:46) It was pretty good.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:54:46 – 00:54:46) Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: (00:54:47 – 00:54:52) I think also the flipping of the table by Teresa. You can never— no? No.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:54:52 – 00:54:58) Because she gets really fired up. It’s kind of like Tamra. Tamra freaks out about everything. So—
Jennifer Lawrence’s Mes° Favorites
ALEX COOPER: (00:54:58 – 00:55:04) That’s fair. Okay, we’re closing out. I want to ask a couple more things about your hair care line.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:55:04 – 00:55:04) Okay.
ALEX COOPER: (00:55:04 – 00:55:09) What do you think product-wise is your go-to favorite right now?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:55:10 – 00:55:43) My go-to favorite right now? That’s really hard to say because the root spray I cannot live without because it thickens my hair and it just— I might as well just not do anything if I’m not going to have the root spray.
But I’ve noticed that when I don’t use the mask now, before, even if it’s 1 minute before I shower, if I don’t use the mask now, my hair does not— I don’t— I don’t love the way that it behaves.
ALEX COOPER: (00:55:43 – 00:55:45) Okay, so we’re going for root spray and mask.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:55:45 – 00:55:53) But the restyling serum, I’m going to be able to keep this blowout for 5 days because of the restyling serum.
ALEX COOPER: (00:55:53 – 00:55:53) Wow.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:55:54 – 00:55:58) So that, I think, is the one that I can’t live without because that one I can hold on to blowouts for
ALEX COOPER: (00:55:59 – 00:56:02) days. Oh, and that’s nice. If you get a blowout from someone, then you just— you have them put that in.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:56:02 – 00:56:12) That’s what I do. I— or I’ll blow my hair out until it’s damp and then kind of let it go natural a little bit, and then I just use the serum to get the floofs out. So I guess the restyling—
ALEX COOPER: (00:56:12 – 00:56:13) it looks really good.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:56:13 – 00:56:13) Thank you.
Clearing Up the Paparazzi Rumors
ALEX COOPER: (00:56:14 – 00:56:24) Okay, so how do you feel? Do you feel like you got everything off your chest? Any rumors you want to clarify? Any misconceptions? Any tea?
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:56:24 – 00:56:42) The number one thing that I will read sometimes when I’m scrolling through comments, and I see that people say this about other celebrities too, and it really drives me crazy, is when people think that celebrities have called and staged paparazzi pictures.
ALEX COOPER: (00:56:42 – 00:56:43) Let’s talk about this.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:56:44 – 00:57:12) It is so infuriating because I’m like, what’s more likely? What— let’s just play this out. What is more likely? That I live in the same building every day of my life and they know where that is?
Or before I leave the house, I’m like, “Hold on, I have mismatching socks and a messy bun and I’ve— and I have to call this guy.” I don’t know how to drop a pin. Who would I call?
ALEX COOPER: (00:57:13 – 00:57:14) You know what, Jen? And I’m going to help you out here.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:57:14 – 00:57:16) And it doesn’t help my career.
ALEX COOPER: (00:57:17 – 00:57:24) You’re one of the people I don’t think is calling the paparazzi on herself, but it’s good to clarify today.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:57:25 – 00:57:28) You know what would help my career? Anonymity. Mystique.
ALEX COOPER: (00:57:28 – 00:57:30) You’re like, “I need to be
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:57:30 – 00:57:34) seen a lot.” If you couldn’t see me unless I was in a movie, do you know how successful I would be?
ALEX COOPER: (00:57:34 – 00:57:37) Oh yeah, we gotta get you out of New York.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:57:37 – 00:57:37) I’d be unstoppable.
ALEX COOPER: (00:57:37 – 00:57:40) I know, I’ve seen— I have seen a lot of paparazzi photos of you lately.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:57:40 – 00:57:44) I know, I live in the city. Oh, whoops, don’t move. Sorry.
ALEX COOPER: (00:57:45 – 00:57:55) But yes, bleep. You’re like, you just told me I live in that building. I live in that building. You know that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they know exactly where to hit you.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:57:55 – 00:57:55) Yeah,
ALEX COOPER: (00:57:55 – 00:58:08) that’s good to know. I like that clarification. Thank you so much for coming on Call Her Daddy. This was so fun. I feel like we went on many different adventures, and I appreciate you really being in this Arctic tundra with me.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:58:08 – 00:58:10) It’s unbelievable how cold it is, but the
ALEX COOPER: (00:58:10 – 00:58:15) nipples were hard, the hair looked good. You’re— you look great. I know you don’t feel it, but thank you. I think I’ve burned
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:58:15 – 00:58:19) 1,000 is just trying to survive. So thank you.
ALEX COOPER: (00:58:19 – 00:58:20) Thank you for coming on.
JENNIFER LAWRENCE: (00:58:20 – 00:58:21) Thank you for having me.
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