Read the full transcript of former president Donald Trump’s conversation on FLAGRANT podcast with hosts Andrew Schulz and Akaash Singh. This was aired on Wednesday, October 9, 2024.
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TRANSCRIPT:
ANDREW SCHULZ: Hello everybody, welcome to Flagrant, and today, this is the first time that we’ve been able to say this, we are sitting down with Mr. President. Mr. President, thank you so much for being here.
DONALD TRUMP: Thank you very much. Thank you, fellas.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. Yeah, this is awesome. We have a bunch of questions. We’re very, very grateful for your time.
DONALD TRUMP: Okay.
ANDREW SCHULZ: I just became a dad.
DONALD TRUMP: Oh.
ANDREW SCHULZ: My buddy over there just became a dad, Mark.
DONALD TRUMP: That’s good.
Raising Successful Children
ANDREW SCHULZ: Okay, so here’s first question. You have these children that are seemingly well-adjusted, successful, and I think, most importantly, they appear to like you.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. They better.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Okay. I grew up in the city, and there’s a lot of people who had very wealthy parents, and the kids kind of resent them. They’re almost waiting for them to die, and they end up in rehab. How do you raise them in the public eye, where they still become ambitious and successful?
DONALD TRUMP: So I do have good kids, and five really wonderful children, and very different. They are so different, but one thing that was in common that I did, I always used to say when I was with them, or when they were leaving a room, I would drive them crazy. No drugs, no alcohol, no cigarettes. I would say that.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Did you say that to Don Jr.?
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah, Don’s a little wild. He can be a little tough.
ANDREW SCHULZ: He told me a funny story.
DONALD TRUMP: Go ahead.
Don Jr.’s Party Story
ANDREW SCHULZ: Okay.
DONALD TRUMP: Right.
ANDREW SCHULZ: And you said yes. He’s like, I want five friends. You’re like, okay, I’m out of town. Go for it. He brings 200 people over to Trump Tower. Okay. He says that you weren’t supposed to be there. You end up showing up. You hear some noise upstairs. You come up. You go, what the fuck is everybody doing here? Get the hell out of my house. He said he cleaned for the next 36 hours. And he said, to this day, you have never brought up that it even happened. And he said, I’m starting to believe it might not have happened. Can you give him closure?
DONALD TRUMP: No, it happened. No, I can never give closure. You can never forget. A lot of people like to forget things you can’t know. He’s a good guy.
Don Jr.’s Experiences in Politics
DONALD TRUMP: You know, he’s taken a lot because he was always a good student. He went to the Wharton School of Finance, which is great, and he did well. But he went into the world of politics, not because he wanted to, but because I was there and I sort of automatically, you drag the family in. And this guy, what he had to go through with the Russia, Russia, Russia. He goes, “Dad, they’re asking me questions about Russia. I don’t know anything about Russia. What’s going on?” And all of a sudden, he’s in front of grand juries. He’s in front of Congress. It was a hoax. It was a total hoax.
This was a made up hoax by crazy Nancy Pelosi and these, you know, the maniacs, Hillary Clinton, who’s totally nuts. And this went on for two years. And, you know, she did. I know nothing about this stuff. And you go before the grand jury and, you know, Comey, you have Comey, who’s the worst, just a bad guy. But he went through a lot and it actually made him tougher. I don’t know if that’s good or bad, but he’s a tough cookie, that one. And it made, in his case, it made him tougher.
Ivanka’s Role
DONALD TRUMP: Ivanka did a great job. She didn’t want anything. All she wanted to do is get people jobs. I would have made her the ambassador to the U.N. I wanted to do that. I think she would have been incredible, the whole aura. She would have been great, but she didn’t want that. She didn’t. And that would have been a very glamorous position. She would have been great there.
All she did is go to see companies and hire people she wanted. And she hired, I think it was like 10 million people, some incredible amount of people. She’d go to Walmart, she’d go to Exxon, she’d go to these big companies and see if she could get groups of people hired. And she loved doing it. It was great. There was no glamour. There was no anything, but she got people jobs that made her.
Instilling Ambition in Children
ANDREW SCHULZ: So how do you instill the ambition in the kids? I think a lot of kids that grow up with wealth, they kind of are lazy and they feel like they have no direction in life. And a lot of times they turn to like drugs and other shit. How do you instill the ambition?
DONALD TRUMP: Well, you know, I’ve seen a lot of wealthy families where the kids are, mostly don’t work out too well. Some don’t turn out to be bad kids, but they end up hating the father or the father maybe wanted them in business. I mean, I have one father that’s very competitive with his son. He’s — if the son were more successful than him, he would hate it. He would be unhappy. And I said, are you crazy? It’s supposed to be the other way around.
My father was so proud of me. He was he was a successful guy. But my father wanted me to be more successful. I mean, he was so proud of all the things I wish he could have seen what happened because we did things. But he was, you know, he’s just a proud father. And I think most fathers are that way. I hope that.
But I’ve known many fathers that are very successful that didn’t want their — that broke up over their son’s success if, you know, in the few cases where the son was more successful, which was very seldom, actually, you know, it’s very seldom. You take people like in sports because in sports you see it because it’s a microcosm of life, but it’s quicker. And you’ll take like the greatest golfers and they’ll have a son and he’ll be really good as a young. And they never supersede almost. I can’t think of any. They never supersede the father in terms of success. And in sports, generally baseball, you can go to a lot of different sports. And it really is a sort of a microcosm of life. But with life, it takes a lot longer to find out the fruition to interrupt you.
ANDREW SCHULZ: But you said we said you’re a great father up top. First thing you say is I’ve got great kids. You didn’t take credit. And then your entire answer. I thought it was really cool. Your entire answer is about how great your kids are. That’s a very cool thing.
DONALD TRUMP: Thank you. That’s very nice. I think I like this interview. I think it’s great. And by the way, congratulations. I hear your show is like is crazy monster success.
ANDREW SCHULZ: We’re doing — we’re doing pretty good. We’re very.
AKAASH SINGH: Yeah, we’re interviewing our president.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. It’s really good. And right in the middle of a campaign with only twenty nine days to go.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: And you’re taking up time.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah. Just to talk about your family.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. It’s a different world out there. You guys and some others. You know, you say we had the standard television stuff for many years. And that’s still I think, you know, I think it’s underrated now. I think it’s still very important. But there’s a whole new thing. Elon interviewed me on something.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: And I think they said two hundred and seventy five million hits.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Wow. It’s a lot. A lot of people.
AKAASH SINGH: That was a nation.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. It’s a whole new, different way of getting the word out —
Elon Musk and SpaceX
ANDREW SCHULZ: Can I ask a few questions about Elon specifically. Is he your favorite African-American?
DONALD TRUMP: He’s a great guy. With I mean, he’s obviously a brilliant guy.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. I mean, when I saw the rocket engines come back, I said, what is that? Like a couple of years ago, you know, I’ve seen rockets go up and then they crash into the water. And I see that the engines are coming back and they’re landing. They’re landing. And they land on the moon.
And they land on a raft in the middle of the ocean someplace with a little dot, and they land right on the top of the spot.
ANDREW SCHULZ: And my wife can’t parallel park.
DONALD TRUMP: Most people can’t. But no, he’s great. But he’s got a great heart. He was with me, as you know, on the other night.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: And we were honoring a man who got killed at a rally. Corey, firefighter, great guy. And it was a beautiful evening. But Lee, Elon went out and he loved the crowd. He loves the country. And he’s picked a side. A lot of people don’t want to pick a side. I have a lot of people that are big supporters of me. But they won’t go all out. You know, they can’t quite.
ANDREW SCHULZ: There’s a cost.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. There’s a cost.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah. There is a cost.
DONALD TRUMP: But there’s also a liability. I mean, you know, some people I respected a lot when this guy was up there doing jumping jacks. You gotta vote for Trump. You gotta vote.
ANDREW SCHULZ: He was jumping high.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. He was jumping high.
AKAASH SINGH: He looked quite African.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: He was in good shape. I’m looking at his waist. I’m saying, wait a minute. Does he work out or something? But he is. He really. And he had a great time. And, you know, he’s not out that much. He’s probably maybe a little. Would you say he’s a little reclusive?
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah. Possibly.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. He’s also busy. He’s very busy and maybe a little reclusive. But he had the greatest time. He was saying, look at these people. We had 100,000, more than 100,000 people. It was a record. It was. Nobody’s ever seen. It was a celebration of a life and it was really a MAGA. It was a MAGA deal.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: He was a big MAGA person. His family was there. And two other people that were very badly hurt were also celebrated and very badly hurt. They weren’t actually expected to live. And they live and they had incredible doctors. Some of those country doctors are better than the big doctors that we spend a lot of money on and they don’t do as good. I will tell you right now, we don’t want to knock anybody. But those country doctors saved two people because I was told that three, no, think of that, three would be in trouble and we were going to now – Corey immediately. But the other two were so bad that they thought they wouldn’t make it. And those country doctors, they pulled them together and they did a great job.
Returning to the Scene
ANDREW SCHULZ: OK, so you’re going back into this place where, you know, there is this assassination.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah.
ANDREW SCHULZ: They hit you. Headshot. You survived.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. It was not a good feeling.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah. Are you scared? By the way?
DONALD TRUMP: No, I’m not scared. You know, I sort of I have an attitude suggesting it sort of it is what it is. Does that make any sense?
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yes.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. You do what you have to do. I felt it was important to go back. A lot of people, I guess, agreed with me because it was over a hundred. I think they said one hundred and eight thousand people in the end. That’s a lot of people. Terrible. And and I had no guitar. You know, if you have a guitar, it’s easy.
DONALD TRUMP: I have guitar. I do have that. They like me very much. But but I don’t have a guitar.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah. You have a guitar.
DONALD TRUMP: Yes. So anyway. But but that was an amazing. It was amazing. I mean, no, I like it when somebody like Elon, who has a lot to lose, is willing to do what’s right. Some people know what’s right to do. And I’m not just talking about endorsements. No. I’m talking about endorsements.
I mean, people care about endorsements and all, but they don’t want to do things because they’re they don’t want to do it. They want to be politically correct. And actually, they’re doing a bad, you know, a bad thing. I think for themselves and for a lot of people, they may represent.
The Opening Line at the Rally
AKAASH SINGH: Okay, opening line. When you walk out there. I mean, I was wondering what you were going to say. And as a comedian, there’s you can see the moment.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. There’s a hell of a comedian.
AKAASH SINGH: No, I appreciate….
DONALD TRUMP: The word is.
AKAASH SINGH: So I hear you go, I hear, you know, I see the video and you go up there and you go, as I was saying, right, crowd goes fucking berserk or what?
DONALD TRUMP: They went, I would say crazy. And I wasn’t sure you’ve experienced. Yeah. I’ll tell you how, you know, you have this as a comedian or even as a not as a comedian. Just when you make a speech, you make some very serious statement. So we’re at a very serious and somber event because we’re celebrating a life that is no longer with us. And I wasn’t sure whether or not that thing — I had it in my mind for a long time. Once I said I’m going back, which I wanted to go back to me, I wanted to actually finish my speech. OK. When I got up, I said, let me finish my speech. But I’m surrounded by like eight very large men and a very wonderful woman. You saw that.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: But I’m surrounded by guys. They said, sir, no way. But I wanted to — I really wanted to finish my speech. I think I like fifty thousand. I had a lot of people.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah. Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: And, you know, when I went down, I was sort of like embarrassed. I said, I went down in front of all these people. That was my first thing I said. I don’t want to be embarrassed.
ANDREW SCHULZ: You were embarrassed. You went down.
DONALD TRUMP: Well, you weren’t exactly sure what the hell was happening at first, you know —
ANDREW SCHULZ: You came back up with the fifth grade. That’s one of the hardest.
DONALD TRUMP: I did. But I was also.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Did you hear them say he’s down or were you just —
DONALD TRUMP: So when I got hit? I assume that it’s funny, isn’t it? When I was this sort of strange, I guess now it’s a little bit we can smile a little bit, but not really. Three guys. One killed one. Two. Very bad.
The Assassination Attempt
DONALD TRUMP: But when I went down, I had total realization. It wasn’t a surreal. You know, they talked about a surreal that could be a surreal experience. Like when somebody something happens, some traumatic thing happens. People are — they lose focus. They have no idea where they are. You know, I’ve heard many people where that happens. Something really terrible happens like that. It was just the opposite. I knew exactly what had happened. I got shot in the ear and Secret Service thought I may have been shot. Actually, they’re pretty sure that I was shot all over because there’s a lot of blood.
Just a little fact. If you get shot in the ear, it’s the bloodiest place. It bleeds more than anything else.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Oh, wow.
DONALD TRUMP: Now, it’s good to be shot this way, not that way. That’s bad. So if I don’t, if I don’t turn, I wouldn’t be doing this right now.
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DONALD TRUMP: My son Don told me, actually, he’s a great shooter, so is Eric, they’re great shooters. They’re like better than scratch, okay, if you use them. And they say it’s amazing because it was 130 yards. To me, that sounds like far away, but it’s not. For shooting, it’s not. He said, that would be like sinking a one-foot putt for just a decent shooter. And I don’t know if you guys are shooters, but they said, if you’re a shooter, it’s almost impossible to miss. It’s that close. It’s really considered that close. I mean, 300, 400, 500 yards is very doable, but this is supposed to be very close. And so he said, gee, I think Don became more religious, actually, you want to know, it had a big impact. He said, it’s impossible.
At the Hospital
DONALD TRUMP: The doctor, actually, when I got to the hospital, they were fantastic, Butler Hospital. I get there and the doctor greeted me and looked at me and looked it over, he said, you are the luckiest man I’ve ever met. He said, you should immediately go out and buy a lotto ticket. Can you imagine he’s telling me to buy a lotto ticket, there’s blood all over the place. And he said, I’ve never, he said, I’ve been doing this for 25 years. I said, he said, I’ve never seen a thing like this. Because it’s just, you’ve just whacked, whacked it. But it was something that was, you know, relatively, relatively not so bad compared to what could have happened. So I feel very lucky.
It was an amazing experience, a horrible experience in most ways. In some ways, it was beautiful because I was somehow, I hopefully, Corey’s protected too, who was the firefighter, and he’s in a good place, maybe a better place than we’re in here, because this world is a little bit on the tough side. But it was a, it was an amazing experience.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Do you feel like an increase in your spirituality after something like this?
DONALD TRUMP: Well, maybe, especially when I’m hearing from people that do shoot and are good at it, that it was almost impossible to miss from, you know, like a one-foot putt is very hard. You got to miss it. That’s a bad putt. He equated it to a one-foot putt. When they say that, I say, well, that’s so, you’re saying, they said, a bad shooter would hit you from that distance 100% of the time. That’s pretty, that’s pretty good. And here I am, we’re doing this wonderful interview with four geniuses that are hot as pistols, right? Look at the hair on this guy. Likewise, Rick. Pretty good stuff you got there. So anyway, so, but here we are.
AKAASH SINGH: Who do you think tried to take you out?
Breaking News
DONALD TRUMP: So I’m going to give you some big breaking news, right?
ANDREW SCHULZ: Love that.
DONALD TRUMP: Because you’re, I know the kind of show and it’s entertaining, but it’s also very serious. I mean, I get the whole picture. And you know what? If it was just funny stuff, you wouldn’t have the success you’ve got, to be honest with you, right?
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: I don’t want to disperse it, but I’ll give you something. So first of all, I have great respect for the secret service and the guys that were with me, I went down and I did a good job going down because those bullets were winging over my head. If I would have been up for another couple of seconds, I also wouldn’t have been there. And I didn’t consider that as lucky as turning to the right at that one, it was like one sixteenth of a second was the only time that I was safe, essentially. If I would have gone a little further, I would have been hit. If I would have gone not as far, I would have been hit. I mean, I had like this little tiny moment.
And the amazing thing is the sign is always on my left and it’s always at the end. And I only use it 20 percent of the time, maybe even less than that. This was a chart on immigration because I have the record. I did a great job in immigration. They are not doing too well right now.
ANDREW SCHULZ: They own the breaking news.
DONALD TRUMP: So you have this shooter and you have another shooter. So this shooter had three or so cell phones. The FBI has never gotten them opened. The other shooter, three apps, they call them, and I believe they were foreign based apps from what I understand.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Oh, wow.
DONALD TRUMP: They haven’t opened them and they’re foreign based. And you know, you hear all about Iran because I was rough with Iran, but I want to see Iran do great. But I want to stop all the killing and all this. And I was rough on Iran and they supposedly have a hit on me. In fact, I think it takes great courage for you people to be interviewing me because it could be now. You know.
AKAASH SINGH: Well, we didn’t know that before we got in here.
DONALD TRUMP: You wouldn’t know that. You might not.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah, exactly.
DONALD TRUMP: In fact, this is a good way of me getting the interview to be short. And he’s going to say, you know, OK, that’s it. Yeah, they have three apps and foreign based, two of them, maybe three of them are foreign based. They haven’t opened them yet. Why wouldn’t you open them when you hear about Iran or when you hear about, you know, then the other one had six cell phones and they haven’t opened.
Now, you know, it’s very hard to open a cell phone. Only Apple can do it in theory unless you have somebody. But they had no problem getting the J6 people cell phones open. They opened their cell phones very quickly. You know, we have two countries in a way. What’s happening here is very bad, very dangerous. We almost had one because I had the greatest economy in the history of our country and people were coming together. We almost had one, but we really do have two right now. And it’s a shame because I think we’ll get them together. Success will bring us together, but they should get those phones opened.
And you know, when there’s an assassination attempt on a former president who’s now I’m proud to say leading in all the polls against the Democrat. I don’t know which one is running. You know, you don’t know what the hell’s going on. I’m the only one that I run against. I run against two Democrats. But this is first we do. We create a lot of first. Usually you run against somebody. Here I run. I had to wait. I was way up on him. And then they say, oh, let’s put this is like with Dana White, a fighter. So you’re fighting and the one guy’s getting killed. And they say, oh, that’s OK. Let’s put in another man to finish it off. You’re fighting. You say, hey, wait a minute.
I have a brand new fighter in the WWE. I spent one hundred and fifty million dollars on beating Biden. And then all of a sudden I hear that they’re going to overthrow him. It was a — it was a coup. I mean, it really was. But I would like them to to open up these apps and find out what’s in there. And so he had six cell phones. Who has six cell phones?
Having six cell phones is weird. I have cell phones. If I ever have to, it’s like a lot.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: Six cell phones. Why does he have them and why haven’t they opened up those cell phones? And it’s different, you know, if you’re a drug dealer, I think it’s terrible in many ways. But I guess from another standpoint, Apple, the primary group, people buy those ones because they will never open them for any reason. But they got them open on J6. You know, they opened up their phones, but they don’t open. And this is big stuff. This is an assassination attempt. And it could involve other countries.
AKAASH SINGH: There’s that same Bernardino shooter that they hacked. FBI was able to hack into the phone. Apple didn’t give it up.
DONALD TRUMP: But there are some people in the world, very few that can — that have an ability to sometimes be able to hack in.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Got it.
DONALD TRUMP: Very rarely, actually.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: It’s an amazing thing when you think that with all the genius you almost can’t do it. But Apple has a key and the key is open. I mean, it’s just they can do it immediately. But they don’t do it and they don’t do it. And that’s one of the reasons that, like, I hate to say it, drug lords feel very confident that they’ll never be exposed and they use their cell phones, their Apple phones. And maybe it’s that way with other companies. I don’t know. They have Samsung. They have other companies. But it’s very hard. Apple is very strong on that.
But when it comes to the assassination of a president, leading candidate, former president or that, I think the rules have to go out and they have to open those things and have to find out. And in terms of national security, you have to either punish Apple or you have to get somebody that can do it. But in terms of national security. So the one guy has six phones, lots of messages to people. Who are those people he’s calling when he’s hiding behind the bush?
AKAASH SINGH: So if you had to guess, I’m sure you thought it obviously thought about this a lot. It’s an assassination attempt. If you had to guess, who do you think is responsible?
DONALD TRUMP: These are great questions. What the hell? I don’t get these questions from the fake news.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: I like to face the nation, have the woman of Brennan. She’s under face the nation. She was terrible with with, you know, the way she handled J.D. Vance, who did a great job the other night. You know, but I don’t get questions like that.
Did you ever hear of the show DeFace? Ladies and gentlemen, it’s Donald Trump on DeFace the nation. It’s called Face the Nation. They hate. No, they spend. They spend millions of dollars. I didn’t even show that.
Oh, I see. You didn’t hear of it. That’s good. They spend millions of dollars on the name CBS. And then I come along and I say DeFace, it’s face the nation. Or meet the fake press. Yeah. I say meet the fake press.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: And they spend all this money. And then I say it once and it goes to millions of people.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: But no, they are fake. But some of these questions, some of these questions are much better.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I’m honored.
DONALD TRUMP: Much better.
ANDREW SCHULZ: That was the best part of the question. That was almost the second best part of your life. You almost chomped up out of it.
DONALD TRUMP: I’m trying to get out of it.
ANDREW SCHULZ: All right. Fair enough.
On Dangerous Professions
DONALD TRUMP: Well, look, if you look at assassinations or attempts, first of all, you realize I’m in a very dangerous business.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: OK. Because one one tenth, think of this, one tenth of one percent of auto races die.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. Bull riders. I think that’s pretty dangerous.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: I don’t know much about it, but I think it’s I wouldn’t want to be a one of those suckers. Now, I see them flying off in the office like an inch from the eye. And when it hits the eye, you’re gone. Right.
Dangerous Professions
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. And they are. Well, it’s about the same. One tenth of one percent.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: And other things. It’s never much more than that. That’s sort of maxed out. I think, you know, race car drivers, bull riders. I think that’s pretty much tough.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: UFC fighters. It’s none. You know, I don’t think anyone’s ever actually.
AKAASH SINGH: On UFC, in MMA or boxing, it’s the most tragic event. Amazingly, boxers die a lot.
DONALD TRUMP: But UFC, Danny tells me it’s a safe sport. I say to me, it’s much rougher. But you know, it’s pretty amazing. They’ve never in UFC, they’ve never lost. And they run a great operation. They’ve never. Nobody’s died.
But with presidents, it’s like a substantial way higher than we realize. You look at Lincoln and Kennedy and this and that. You go through McKinley, Garfield. You look at a lot of people. I’m in a very dangerous.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Dangerous business.
DONALD TRUMP: Profession.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah. Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: I call it a profession.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah. A dangerous profession. I like that.
DONALD TRUMP: I’m sitting with you guys. You have a very nice, safe life. Me? So no, if you said five percent.
ANDREW SCHULZ: I think he called us soft.
AKAASH SINGH: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. But think of it. Five percent.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah. That’s a lot.
DONALD TRUMP: That’s a lot. That’s a lot.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: But the Texas is getting into a really crazy number. So people don’t think of that. You know, you run and you see and then you win and you’re down Pennsylvania. You look at everything. So you get out. You’re a dangerous guy.
The Weave
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. And so it’s one of those things I was saying before, though, that, you know, I do a thing called the weave and there are those that are fair that say this guy is so genius. And then others would say, oh, he rambled. I don’t ramble. I saw the story. What you do is you weave things and you do it. You have to have certain things. You need — you need an extraordinary memory because you have to come back to where you started.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah. The weave is only good for that.
AKAASH SINGH: Yeah. Sure. You can go all the way over here.
DONALD TRUMP: I can go so far here or there and I can come back to exactly where I started. Now, someday when you don’t come back to where you started, you’re buying it. But the weave is the way when you’re telling like a story. I was telling a story at a rally the other day in front of thousands of people. And I started off and then you were weaving something in this story. I actually mentioned Air Force One. It was Air Force One was there. So I mentioned Air Force One. And then I said how I got one point six billion dollars off the price of Air Force One. So but then you have to come back to the story. Where was Air Force One taking you?
So anyway, I do a weave. I call it the weave. And some people think it’s so genius. But the bad people, what they say is, you know, he was rambling.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah. It’s not a ramble. There’s no rambling. It’s a weave.
DONALD TRUMP: Good name. I’m not sure. That’s another name. We had fake news. We came up with lots of names. But the weave is I think we should make the weave a part of that stable.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah. Yeah. You’re really weird. You’re answering my question twice. That’s really weird.
DONALD TRUMP: That’s brilliant.
ANDREW SCHULZ: I don’t even want to know the answer anymore.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. I keep weaving.
ANDREW SCHULZ: I lost interest.
DONALD TRUMP: We’ll weave back.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Let’s weave back to his question. This is where it started.
DONALD TRUMP: We’ll weave back to it. So I sort of hate answering it because I don’t want to give any false identities. I don’t want to do anything having to do with creating something that isn’t there. You would look at Iran. Iran has an open threat out for me and that’s bad. And Biden, if he were a real president, if he were the kind of guy he should be, should say if anybody shoots a former president who’s now the leading candidate, even though he’s leading against Democrats, we will bomb that country into oblivion and it would stop.
And that’s been said before with some people. You know, there have been people, I won’t go into it, but there have been people that have been threatened in another party even. In the same party, it makes sense and probably happens pretty quickly. In another party, you know, it’s hard for them to cross the line, to protect me. But it shouldn’t be hard. Other people have protected other people. And what you have to inform those people is if they do it, the country will be blown to smithereens. The entire country will be blown to smithereens.
And those threats go away because that’s a really bad threat for a country. Forget about me. I’m an individual. But I represent something very important. That’s a really terrible threat. So I mean, there are others that could be in that category. Look, I took in hundreds of billions of dollars from China at a level that no president, no president took in anything. I had tariffs on China, took in hundreds of billions of dollars, they’re still there, that without me, they wouldn’t have those tariffs. So you could say, but no, I think Iran would be the one.
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International Relations
DONALD TRUMP: I was tough with other countries, but I got along very well with them. But you know, we were like, we were like a pussycat. We were ripped off by every nation in the world, and some of the worst rippers were our so-called allies. People that, countries that we supposedly get along with, but they’re the ones that took advantage of us on trade at a level like, you know, I mean, I ended some of the dumbest trade deals I’ve ever seen and made them much better for the country. I mean, what difference does it make? I made, I took a terrible trade deal, would make it a good trade deal.
But like Japan, I redid the trade deal. South Korea, I did the trade, the deals. I went to Abe of Japan. I said, Shinzo, he was assassinated. He was, he was, as you probably know, he’s incredible. Great man. He’s a great leader for the people. They loved him. I said, Shinzo, look, we can’t do this. The trade deal is so bad. We’re friends, but I have to renegotiate the trade deal. And he said to me, I knew that would happen. I said, why did you know? Because you’re right. He said, I knew you’d catch us.
But they went through many presidents where Japan was, as an example, they’ll send us millions of cars. We’re not allowed to send them any. They send us their, their farm product. We were sending them practically nothing. It was like a one way. Everything was one way. And by the way, virtually every China was the worst, but there were many countries almost as bad. The European Union was almost as bad. In my opinion. It sounds nice. Oh, the European Union is so nice. They were ruthless in their trading.
And I said to Angela Merkel, how many Chevrolets do we have in the middle of Berlin? Why? I don’t believe any. I said, you’re right. And yet we take in, you know, all of that. We take in Mercedes Benz, BMW, and we take in all of this Volkswagen. We’re taking in all of these millions and millions of cars. I said, how many American cars are in the middle of Munich or Berlin? And the answer is none. And I had things change around.
So, you know, you could say, I think that the answer would be at this moment, Iran. And I think they could catch him. And if we had a real president, which we don’t, we don’t have a real president. We have a man that is grossly inept. And it’s very dangerous because these guys are all at the top of their game. When you talk about President Xi and you talk about any one of the leaders in the world, Macron, and he’s a smart guy. He’s all for France. I mean, he would — he would take the shirt off your back if you didn’t know what you were doing.
ANDREW SCHULZ: So when you’re with these guys, are these guys all sharks?
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah.
ANDREW SCHULZ: And you can sense the energy immediately?
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. Not all of them, but some of them aren’t sharks.
ANDREW SCHULZ: How are you assessing personality?
DONALD TRUMP: OK, well, I can tell you, like, great, Modi. India.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: He’s a friend of mine. He’s great. He’s the nicest. India.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Do you like him or not? Do you like him?
AKAASH SINGH: I have family on both sides. I have family. I’ve loved everything in family. I’ll just tell you.
DONALD TRUMP: Well, they had, you know, before him, they had they were replacing him every year. It was very unstable. He came along. He’s great. He’s a friend of mine. But on the outside, he looks like he’s your father. He’s the nicest. He’s a total killer.
So I asked him, yeah, we’re talking. I did. They did a thing called Howdy Modi in Houston, Texas.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Oh, yeah, yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: And they filled up the stand. It was me and him. We filled up the stand. It was beautiful. Like 80,000 people was going crazy. And we’re walking around today. Maybe I wouldn’t be. Maybe you wouldn’t do that.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: We’re walking, walking in the middle, waving to everybody anyway. But we have a very good relationship. He’s the nicest human being. But we had a couple of occasions where somebody was threatening India. I said, let me help. I’m very good with those people. Let me help. I will do it. I will do it. And I will do anything necessary. We’ve defeated them for hundreds of years. He was talking about a certain country. Yeah, you can probably guess.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: You know the country. But I said, whoa, what happened there? So, you know, they’re all tough and they’re all smart. And some are very good people. He’s a good person. There’s some good people and some aren’t good people. But they’re all at the top of their game.
And we have her who is now more important than him, I guess, although he’s still president of this country. And we’re talking about nuclear war. He’s not capable. He doesn’t even know what it is.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: He said yesterday when they talked about should they hit Iran’s nuclear. No, no. We shouldn’t do this. Oh, it’s sort of just the opposite, because the nuclear is the biggest threat we have in the world today. It’s not global warming where the oceans are rising one eighth of an inch in the next five hundred years. The threat that we have, the biggest threat is nuclear war.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
AKAASH SINGH: You seem concerned about that..
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. Because it only takes one. I am. We have countries now that have capability and soon they’ll have more. And we shouldn’t let there be more. And I was at a point very good, despite the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax, it was a total hoax and we were totally exonerated and everything else. I could have told them that the first day. But that causes, you know, a lot of problems, a lot of problems. And they’re a big nuclear power.
We were close to a deal for getting rid of nuclear weapons. It would be so good —
AKAASH SINGH: For all countries or just Russia.
DONALD TRUMP: We were talking about Russia, ourselves and China.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Oh, wow.
Nuclear Disarmament
DONALD TRUMP: And we would then bring everyone else into it.
ANDREW SCHULZ: And so you all strongly, you all would get rid of your nuclear capabilities.
DONALD TRUMP: De-nuclearize. Yes. We were going to get.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Wow. How do I de-nuclearize?
DONALD TRUMP: Because it’s too powerful.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah. Too much.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. You know, my uncle, Dr. John Trump, was a doctor.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: Dr. John Trump. Well, he was a nuclear doctor, actually. He was at MIT. He’s the longest serving professor at MIT. He passed away. Great guy. He was a brilliant guy, a brilliant scientist. And he used to tell me, he said, a long time ago, he’d say, Donald, someday it’s very dangerous. Somebody will be able to carry a small briefcase into a building in New York and blow up the entire city.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Oh, wow.
DONALD TRUMP: I said, you got to be kidding me, Uncle John, that will never happen. He was like a really brilliant guy. He was there for, I think, 41 years. He was the longest serving professor in the history of MIT.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Oh, wow.
DONALD TRUMP: So when I understand physics and when I understand things well, they say, how come you, I have, there’s good genetics. You know, I’m a believer. Are you guys believers in that? Were your parents funny? Were they comedians?
AKAASH SINGH: Yeah. My mom’s side is Scottish.
DONALD TRUMP: Oh.
AKAASH SINGH: Scottish women tend to be funny. You know, my mom.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah. I was going to ask you about that.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. And she was great.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Is that where you get your humor from?
Scottish Heritage
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. Well, I’ll tell you what. England at the time, they fought them for a thousand years trying to get them under tow. They couldn’t do it. Couldn’t do it. They’re very tough. That reminds me of my mother. Come to think of it.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: My mother was great. She was a Stornoway.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: The Hebrides. That’s, you know, that’s really serious Scottish.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: But she was great. But it is true, when you see Braveheart, that was one of many times, you know, for hundreds of years.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Did you watch that with your mom by any chance?
DONALD TRUMP: I didn’t. I didn’t get to. I’ll tell you. I saw Braveheart. I think Mel Gibson is a very good guy. I’ve met him.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: A number of times. Good guy. That was super Mel Gibson on his prime.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Totally.
DONALD TRUMP: And I was on a plane. And there was absolutely nothing to do. It was one of these planes that you couldn’t make calls. You couldn’t do it. And they had tapes.
ANDREW SCHULZ: That’s old planes for us.
DONALD TRUMP: And they showed me like. No, but they showed me. They showed me, sir, we have 20 tapes. And I looked at the tapes and this was like 20 years after it was made. This is probably six years ago. I never saw Braveheart. OK.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Oh, wow.
DONALD TRUMP: They showed me a tape. I say, all right, let’s put that one on. And within about four minutes, I said, this may be the greatest movie I’ve ever seen.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Incredible.
DONALD TRUMP: Incredible.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Four minutes.
DONALD TRUMP: No, I’m not a Braveheart fan.
ANDREW SCHULZ: But you’ve seen it.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah.
ANDREW SCHULZ: I saw it with my mom. She was emotional for like a week.
DONALD TRUMP: I wish I saw it with my mother. But it was good.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Was that your Braveheart moment? Like after getting shot when you stood up?
DONALD TRUMP: No, no. Freedom. You don’t think of that in those moments. You do what you do.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Thank God you weren’t thinking about Mel Gibson in that way.
DONALD TRUMP: No. But he’s good. But he was when he in primetime, he was unbelievable. I mean, at that, you know, his look, his way, his. You couldn’t have had a better guy playing it. But it was. That was a great movie.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: But it is to England. And, you know. And they’d have the battles with thousands or once a thousand. And they run at each other. Tell me that. I mean. You think that takes guts?
ANDREW SCHULZ: They run at each other.
DONALD TRUMP: I think so. Knowing they’re going to pretty much die. Right.
ANDREW SCHULZ: The Roman army built walls to keep out the Scots.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. Yeah. They were afraid of the Scots.
ANDREW SCHULZ: They were afraid.
DONALD TRUMP: The Scottish people, they’re tough people. They’re good people. Actually, they’re very great people. But they’re good fighters.
Family and Humor
DONALD TRUMP: But your mom was funny.
ANDREW SCHULZ: She was funny. Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: I hear. I hear she was.
DONALD TRUMP: She had a great sense of humor. And my father loved my mother. You know, they were married for.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah. Polar opposites, though?
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. My father was German. Serious. Serious. But good. He was a tough guy. But he had a good heart. When he walked down the street. And they would say, we can walk down the street. He would always give something to. If there was somebody that had problems. They used to have the can and a pencil. You know, the can of. My father would always put $100 in his pocket.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Oh, wow.
DONALD TRUMP: He would always do it. Now, he had a tremendous heart. But he was a tough guy. He was tough. He was. He was just like no nonsense. It was firm. My mother was a woman. And I don’t know how your mother felt. But she loved the queen. Don’t forget, the queen was, you know. The queen was great. Oh, would she have liked. Because the queen honored me before she died. She honored me as the president in Buckingham palace. And there’s nobody that does it like the English. There’s nobody that has, you know, the pomp and ceremony.
But, but my mother would love that. Your mother. So did she feel strongly about like the royalty?
AKAASH SINGH: I think they’re obsessed with the royal family out there. Like in general. She was really into all the pageantry for sure.
DONALD TRUMP: My mother was. My mother thought the queen was great.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: Then she thought the queen was so wonderful.
AKAASH SINGH: Some of my family hates the English though. I won’t deny that.
DONALD TRUMP: No, I know. There’s some history. I know. I know, but a lot of the, it’s a hard breakup. You know, they tried to break up Scotland from the rest of the empire, so to speak.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah, because they got some oil.
DONALD TRUMP: And it made it by about like a half a point. They kept it together. So I hope it stays together. I hope it always stays together. But England, as they say, because it used to be England, but England never could. They just, and they were bigger and they had more people. They could never finish it off by capturing Scotland. So it’s really sort of-
AKAASH SINGH: They ended up having to marry together.
DONALD TRUMP: They married. They became sort of subsidiaries. Right?
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yes. Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: But it was great. That’s interesting with your mother.
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Trump’s Sense of Humor
AKAASH SINGH: Okay. So the humor, so the humor comes from there, maybe some other things. I think that’s one thing that there’s bipartisan support for you is even the people that are like, I don’t like that guy, will go, hey, he’s funny now. He says funny things. Have you heard this before?
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah, I’ve heard it.
ANDREW SCHULZ: It’s very disarming humor.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah, but in my business, in what I do, if you don’t have humor, you won’t even survive.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Why is that?
DONALD TRUMP: Because I think you have to have a light side. I see a lot of dark things. I see horrible things. I see things that are bad. I see political things that are bad. We have a lot of corrupt people in this country, and I see it. And horrible corrupt people. We have people that, you know, I really do. We have, from the inside, we have really bad people. And outside we do. But I think the outside is, but I think it’s easier to handle China. If you have a smart president who knows, you know, some things. If you had a, who knows how to deal, let’s say.
Foreign Relations
DONALD TRUMP: You’re not going to have a problem with Russia. Russia would have never attacked Ukraine if I were president. I used to talk to Putin about it. I got along great with him. They would have never, ever done it. I ended his pipeline. I ended the pipeline called Nord Stream 2. Nobody ever heard of Nord Stream 2. I said, are you building a pipeline going to Europe? I said, I don’t think so. And I told, you know, I got them together. I said, you mean, we’re defending you from Russia, and you’re paying them billions of dollars a month for oil? It’s not going to work that way. And I ended it. And then when Biden came in, he gave it back. The biggest project they ever had, right? He gave it back. And then everyone said, Trump is friends with Putin. Putin would say, if you’re my friend, I’d hate like hell to see you as my enemy.
Think of it. And I put a lot of sanctions on. But I got along with Russia. I get along with pretty much everybody. Actually, the tougher they were, the better I did with them. That’s a good thing, not a bad thing, because the other ones are easier to handle. But the ones that I got along with, and they’re also the bigger threats. I got along very well with President Xi of China. But when COVID came, I was not happy with him because it came out of the labs. I mean, they released it from accidentally, I believe. A lot of people would say it wasn’t an accident, but they got hit very hard. They got hit as hard as anybody in the world. It was late. It was belated. It was a late hit.
But when COVID came, I made an unbelievable trade deal with China. They have to buy $50 billion of our product every year. It was unbelievable. Nobody could believe I got that deal done. I don’t even talk about it because of COVID. I don’t even talk about it. That deal is unbelievable. And what’s happened now, our farmers have been hit because Biden hasn’t pressed them to honor the deal. Every day I’d get up, how much did China buy today? I’d call them up and say, you’re behind. You have to buy $50 billion. Do you think Biden does that? Biden’s sleeping.
Biden Criticism
DONALD TRUMP: But over the last week, I have to, when we talk about funny or sad, I think it’s more sad than funny. He has one ability I don’t have. He sleeps. He can sleep. This guy goes on a beach and he lays down on one of those, you know, six-ounce, they weigh six ounces and he can’t lift it. They’re meant for children, young people and old people to lift. Aluminum, you know, hollowed aluminum. They weigh very little and he can’t lift. And somebody convinced him he looks good in a bathing suit. And when you’re 82, typically bathing suits aren’t going to make you look great. You’re not going to be enhanced. It’s just one of those things.
ANDREW SCHULZ: I can’t be sure about that, but typically…
AKAASH SINGH: Depends what he’s packing.
DONALD TRUMP: I don’t know what the hell he’s packing. And I don’t want to know either. I don’t know. But he has an ability to fall asleep while on camera. He can lie down on one of those things. And in minutes, he’s stone-cold out.
How does he do it? Because he’s the president, so they have cameras on him. And then they show him sleeping on the beach. You’ll never see me sleeping in front of cameras.
ANDREW SCHULZ: How do we get you better at that? Like, what can we do? How do we work on that as a country?
DONALD TRUMP: As a country?
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: We’ve got to save our country. We are a nation in decline, whether you like it or not.
AKAASH SINGH: I hate hearing that.
DONALD TRUMP: I know.
ANDREW SCHULZ: That hurts me. That hurts me. As a proud American, I…
DONALD TRUMP: Well, what you like, though, is we’re going to be greater than ever before.
AKAASH SINGH: So that’s, I think, the messaging that I think… Yeah. I think that’s really nice to hear.
DONALD TRUMP: Well, that’s my ultimate message. But you can’t avoid the fact that we’ve allowed 21 million people into our country in the last three and a half years. And I don’t know your persuasion. I don’t know if you guys are liberal or what, but nobody can be happy with 21 million people openly walking into a place we don’t know. And it was released last week that 13,000 of those people are murderers. 13,099.
13,000 of those people are in prison, they’re incarcerated for murder, and they let them out.
AKAASH SINGH: I think you have support on this, though. I think everybody… Regardless of political affiliation.
DONALD TRUMP: I’ll let you know on November 6th if I have support. The day after the election. November 5th, the most important day.
AKAASH SINGH: I think people agree and they want a strong border. I don’t think that’s an issue that’s tearing the country apart. But I do think that there is something…
DONALD TRUMP: There are some people that want to open, and they’re either…
ANDREW SCHULZ: But there are politicians that are getting some sort of reinforcement through this. The average American, I don’t think, is going, we hate our open border.
DONALD TRUMP: I think only a person that hates our country, actually, maybe it’s a down, deep hatred, can want open borders. So we took in more than 21 million people in the last three and a half years, and we have no idea where they even come from. They’re terrorists, they’re drug dealers. You know, in Venezuela, and it’s not just South America, but take Venezuela, they’ve taken their criminals off the streets of Caracas, which was a very dangerous city. You couldn’t walk across the street in Caracas and get a loaf of bread. Right now, it’s a safe city. Their crime is down 72%. They’ve taken all of their criminals, almost all of them, and they brought them into the United States and dumped them. That’s not ending well. You know where some of them went?
Immigration Issues
DONALD TRUMP: To Aurora in Colorado. And they took over the town.
ANDREW SCHULZ: The whole town?
DONALD TRUMP: Oh, pretty much, yeah. You know how they took it over with guns? They went into the real estate business. Like me, I had to go to a bank and borrow. They went in with MK-47s. They went in with weapons like nobody’s ever seen before. They went in with military-style weapons. They’ve taken it over.
ANDREW SCHULZ: I think most people are on board with deporting any illegal that has committed a crime. I think there’s bipartisan support for that. I think the tricky thing comes, and honestly, I have empathy. You’re a business owner. There’s been people, I’m not trying to oust you, but there’s been people I’m sure that might not have had legal citizenship that have maybe worked in various businesses. I’ve definitely been taken care of as a kid by people that weren’t legal, babysitters and stuff. So there are people that maybe would like a path to citizenship that I have a lot of empathy for.
DONALD TRUMP: You have to start with the criminals.
ANDREW SCHULZ: I agree. It’s very tough. Maybe we can open our hearts a little bit to the people who are trying to be good, hardworking Americans.
DONALD TRUMP: You know what’s going to happen? You’re going to be in the midst of this. Now, you know, Dwight Eisenhower was sort of a moderate, General Eisenhower. Did you know that they had 8% generals, president of the United States, 8% were generals, 92% were politicians, and then you had Trump? See, that’s a wave.
ANDREW SCHULZ: You know, we go off at this rate. I like that. Now, where are we weaving through? I’m into this.
DONALD TRUMP: No, no, think of it, because we’re talking about generals, and then you get back on to the generals. There you go. What I’m trying to say is that Eisenhower is a moderate.
ANDREW SCHULZ: I like to play by play for the week.
DONALD TRUMP: No, it’s good, though. Isn’t it great? We mention Eisenhower, and then I say he was a general, 8% generals, 92%, and now you go back. Okay? It’s part of the wave. Then you go back. No, you’ve got to keep it all together. You’ve got to be sharp. If you’re not sharp, you’re dead. Think of it. Think of it. No, but think of it.
So we have 92% and 8%. No admirals and no business people until me. So now we have me. I’m one.
ANDREW SCHULZ: And then maybe things change after that.
DONALD TRUMP: No, I think it will change. There’ll never be another business person that ever does this.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Okay, here’s the question.
DONALD TRUMP: Because I’ve been treated so badly that I think that no person of success, don’t forget, my whole life was deals, deals, deals, deals, deals, deals. Most guys are stiffs, like they’ll run for office. There’s no deal. There’s no nothing. You can’t get yourself in trouble much. You can be a crooked politician. Some are. But basically, I do so many deals. I do hundreds of thousands of pages of documents a year, when I’m really in the mood, right? And they find one page. I got myself a problem politically. Okay?
Look at it. They went after me for years on taxes. Years. They went to the United States Supreme Court. I gave them tens of thousands of pages. And you never heard about it again.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Well, that is what often happens, which is probably incredibly frustrating, which is lobbying and allegation. And then when it’s proven to be false, they just move on.
DONALD TRUMP: They don’t even write about it. I called the New York Times or something. I was right. Yeah, the Russian hoax.
Pulitzer Prize Controversy
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. Well, I’m suing Pulitzer. You don’t know this. They got a Pulitzer Prize for their New York Hoax.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah, for the hoax.
DONALD TRUMP: They got the Pulitzer Prize. So the writers got Pulitzer Prizes for their brilliant coverage of the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Interesting.
DONALD TRUMP: It turned out to be right. So we wrote a letter to the Pulitzer Prize, right? You know, the committee. It’s a big foundation.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: And we said, it’s a lawsuit that’s going on.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: And we said, we demanded you take back the Pulitzer Prizes. We demand an apology.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: Because you’re actually, by leaving them, you’re sort of saying it happened. And it didn’t happen. And everybody now is giving it up.
ANDREW SCHULZ: You’re rewarding the lie.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. So I sued them. They said, well, we did what we did. We’re not. OK, that’s OK. That’s all right. So I sued them. And they’ve got themselves a big problem now.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: And this suit’s moving along. And I think we’re going to win that suit easily. Because they gave people Pulitzer Prizes that were wrong. You know who should get the Pulitzer Prizes equivalent, if you could? Guys like Sean Hannity.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: Guys like, you know, there were numerous of them that, I mean, not as many as the fake news, as the very liberal media. But we had tremendous John Solomon. He’s a great writer. So many people knew that that was a hoax. They should get prizes. I don’t know. Pulitzer Prize. You don’t give Pulitzer Prizes to a guy on television.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah. You can’t get, in theory, a Pulitzer Prize.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. But you had a lot of people that got that right. They got nothing. So we sued Pulitzer on the basis that they should absolutely take that prize back. And I said, by not taking it back, you’re trying to say that it actually happened. You know, in a way.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: I’m saying you’re defaming me because by you not taking those prizes back, you’re actually saying it happened.
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ANDREW SCHULZ: I have a question because I know we have a limited time, but important thing. How are we doing so far?
DONALD TRUMP: You’re doing great. You’re doing amazing. They’re making us laugh. We want you for a minute to my people. You know, I do have other things, but I know you’ve been. How interesting is this?
ANDREW SCHULZ: This is the fun.
DONALD TRUMP: He’s an influencer.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah, he’s a good kid.
DONALD TRUMP: You know, I asked him, I said, Alex, let me ask you a question.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Sure.
DONALD TRUMP: And I didn’t. I wasn’t. Oh, you’re not. We’re not telling me. I said, who is give him a little more time. Can I override Alex? I don’t know.
Yeah. Unlike Biden. He can’t. I can’t. I can say, Alex, I’m doing it. Thank you. Thank you. They turn the cameras off with this guy. Do you ever see it? The cameras are off. The lights go off. He’s a deep guy. We’re in no trouble.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: But I’ll tell you what. I asked Alex. He’s an influencer. You know, he’s a very. He’s a big name influencer. I don’t know if he’s in this league. I don’t know. But I said to him, knowing nothing about influences, I said. Who is the biggest of all the influences, sir? That’s the easiest question you’ve ever asked me.
Who is it? You, sir.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Wow.
DONALD TRUMP: I never thought of it. He said, you’re the biggest. You have hundreds of millions of people. You have more people than anybody else before. You know, before they took away. I went from having 280 million on Facebook and Twitter and Instagram. The three of them combined 280. I think I was. I think I was number one because Zuckerberg told me that he came to the White House. He said, congratulations, you’re number one on Facebook. So I went from that to having nobody. I went. That was like cold turkey.
Let’s call that cold turkey. Yeah. That would be like if we didn’t do business with China. One day I said no more business with China. You go cold turkey.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: And I went and I said, boy, but I had a lot to say. This was after the presidency, of course. You know, they do it after the presidency, during the presidency. They’re a little bit very nice. But anyway, but they I went totally, totally off. I had nobody. And I had all these ideas and I couldn’t get the word out. And I had some good thoughts and people want to hear my thoughts. And I did a thing called Save America just to. And essentially, it was like the old fashioned. You guys are far too young. In the old days, what we did, we didn’t have tweeting or we didn’t have truth. Truth is doing great, by the way. Would you please use truth? I love to use truth. Everybody is my voice. But I also use that. I also use X.
But I went from – I went from having all these people. And I did an old fashioned press release. Well, we go to press.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah, yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: And somebody would write up something and send us all. And I started doing it. Save America. And they get — they got longer and better and longer and started doing it. And, man, I had millions of people. Now, nobody else could do that because, you know, if somebody puts out a press release, it doesn’t work out too well. But I did it and it did well. And then I did truth. And and I’m very good friends with Elon. And we owe Elon a lot for what he’s done with X. And I use X, too. I use X, too. But my voice is on truth. And it’s done really well. I mean, if I want to get something out, I put it on truth and everybody picks it up. You know, you put it there and then you see it all over the place. It’s picked up. I mean, I could be on anything I want. But, yeah, I put it out on truth and it just gets picked up all over the place.
Influencers and Social Media
DONALD TRUMP: It’s been very good. But he said I was the number one influencer.
ANDREW SCHULZ: OK, you’ve got your son there. Do you think I’m the number one influence?
AKAASH SINGH: I think it’s I think it’s Rogan. I think it’s Rogan, you and Kim Kardashian. Like Kim Kardashian influences the shape of women’s bodies and faces like you see so many. They’re literal. Do they want to look like human? Do they want to look like her?
DONALD TRUMP: They want to look like her.
ANDREW SCHULZ: So once we start seeing dudes want to look like you and I see young Jack over there, I think he’s trying to do it.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Take that. So tell me, you know, this is a little new work. I call his name is Jack. I call him Tick-Tock Jack. I’m good with names in your life.
AKAASH SINGH: You’re very good. You are.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. Pocahontas.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah. Yeah. And of course, you’ve tampon Tim is good. What about that? What time? Tim?
DONALD TRUMP: It’s hard to say.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah. No, it’s a mouthful.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. It’s a lot.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: And you can’t scatter it through when you know it’s really a lousy word to say. Yeah, but it’s quite accurate. And there are some like Comrade Kamala, a little hard to say. She’s a comrade because she’s obviously a communist.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: She’s horrible. So I call her comrade.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah. Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: And it’s not bad. But when you put the names together, it’s a little, you got to be able to pew. You got to be able to put it out there. But we have a lot of good. A lot of them I can’t go into with you because some of my best ones are from the Republican primaries.
They’re all friends of mine now. You got to be nice. So I’ve taken.
ANDREW SCHULZ: What about Mike Pence? You got anything from Mike Pence?
Mike Pence and the Election
DONALD TRUMP: Well, it’s a shame because he and I had a very good relationship. I mean, he couldn’t cross the line of doing what was right, in my opinion. Some people would disagree with that. But he had the right to go and put him before the legislatures and have them reassess because they found out a lot of bad things. And he had a lawyer that said he didn’t have that right, but he did have that right. And you know why we found out that that was true? Because they changed the law after the election so that he couldn’t do what I said he could do.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: OK. They changed the law so that a vice president could no longer do what I said he could do. So, in other words, I turned out to be right. But it’s a shame. We had a very good relationship for ninety nine point nine percent of the thing.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: And, you know, I think he’s a good man. I think he’s good. Unfortunately, I wish you would have had. The stamina and maybe courage or maybe both.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: Because we have to have honest elections in our country. And if we’re afraid to challenge an election, we’re in big trouble. You know, they say if you check, they’ve challenged elections to Democrats. Look at Maxine Waters. How dare that? You know, they’ve challenged Stacey Abrams.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: Almost all of the Democrats challenge.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: But when we challenge, they say he’s a threat to democracy.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: These are con artists and they’re very bad for our country.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: So I’m going to weed them out. I’m going to weed them out. I’ll do it in honor of you.
Barron Trump and Roe v. Wade
ANDREW SCHULZ: Okay. So tell me this. So tell me this. This situation. Okay. Barron is 18.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Handsome. He’s tall.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah.
ANDREW SCHULZ: He’s rich. He’s unleashed in New York City. Are you sure you want to reverse Roe v. Wade now? I mean, maybe give him a few years, you know.
DONALD TRUMP: You know, it’s up to the states now. It’s up to the states. Yes. Because I have and I believe in exceptions and all of the different things.
ANDREW SCHULZ: You’ve been vocal about that.
DONALD TRUMP: I’ve been very vocal. I mean, I think a lot of people agree with me.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: It was very, very strong, very, very tough. And Republicans were going to lose a lot of elections having to do with a lot of other things, too, because there are many issues. We have the border. We have this. We have wars. We have everything.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: And Roe v. Wade was always about getting it back to the states.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: And then people started talking about the number of weeks and all these. But nobody wanted no legal scholar, no Democrat, no Republican, liberal, conservative. Nobody wanted it in the federal government. It shouldn’t be in the federal government. And the legal scholars, it was abhorrent. They didn’t want it. And they didn’t want it in the federal government.
ANDREW SCHULZ: No.
DONALD TRUMP: And it was in the federal government. I didn’t say this. What we did is that what we did is we moved it back to the states and a vote of the people. And now they’re voting. Ohio voted a very liberal, you know, Ohio. I won Ohio by a lot. But they they voted and it’s up to them.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: And I do believe in exceptions. Life of the mother and incest.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Right.
DONALD TRUMP: If your daughter’s raped by somebody. Let’s say he’s from a prison someplace and he killed people and everything else.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: Absolutely. You have to be able to do.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: There are some people. And I think that group is smaller and smaller when they realize what’s going on. But there are some people that under no circumstances can either. I don’t happen to agree. Ronald Reagan didn’t agree. But what has happened is it’s now back in the states where it belongs. And the states are moving along and they’re approving things. Some conservative and some liberal.
IVF and Abortion Laws
ANDREW SCHULZ: My wife and I had a baby through IVF. And you were very supportive of IVF.
DONALD TRUMP: I was totally.
ANDREW SCHULZ: I really love that. You said that you guys were going to pay for it. Right from the beginning.
ANDREW SCHULZ: And I would love to get the refund or whatever once that.
DONALD TRUMP: I actually said we want babies.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah. But there are some people using that reversal of Roe v. Wade to kind of attack the legality of IVF. And to me, it’s like that’s heartbreaking.
DONALD TRUMP: These are crooked politicians. These are politicians. And I’ll give you an example. I came out when it first came up and it started in Alabama where a judge ruled that you couldn’t do IVF and all clinics all over Alabama was going to shut down. We’re going to be shut down. And I wasn’t an expert on IVF, but I have common sense, you know, we’re a party of common sense.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: And some women called me and actually Katie Britt called me. The senator from Alabama was really a young, good politician, smart, great husband. It was a football player. Great family. She called me up. She said, sir, women have come to me and almost attacked me. And then my best friends that the judge shut down IVF is a very conservative judge. And he shut down IVF. And I said, let’s explain it. Tell me. And she told me. I said, no, it’s a great thing. It’s helping women have babies. And she didn’t know her friends were all going through IVF.
ANDREW SCHULZ: It’s so much more common than people realize.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. But they don’t talk about it. You know, let’s say somebody. I understand. I never had big discussions. I know this. If you’re a woman and you’re going to, you’re not going to be telling Katie Britt and you’re not going to be telling your friends, hey, I’m going through IVF. Some will and some won’t.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: But she didn’t know anything about her friends. And they were good friends of hers. She said, they’re literally attacking me. I said, well, what is it? After about five minutes, I’m a quick study. I said, that’s a great thing. And I came out within 45 minutes of the decision. I came out strongly in favor on behalf of the Republican Party. And I have calls from senators saying, thank you, sir. You saved my political.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah. Wow.
DONALD TRUMP: Because they might have come out in their family, too. But here’s what does happen, which is really we get calls that just the other day that this total lying politician that’s running that ruined San Francisco. She destroyed San Francisco with her very liberal policies. And she destroyed this. No, but Gavin Newsom. I call him Gavin Newsome.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Gavin Newsome. That’s a good one.
DONALD TRUMP: No, he’s a terrible. He’s a terrible. No, no. He doesn’t like that. But he is.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Good hair, though.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don’t know. Pretty good. Don’t take your hat off. You never know. Sometimes the guy will take his hat off. He has good hair. Boy, you. And usually it’s 95 percent. There’s always a reason. You know, usually a reason. That’s OK, too.
Political Attacks and Misinformation
DONALD TRUMP: But what I do, I get a call and they say that she, Kamala, said that I’m against IVF, OK, that I’m against it. They know it’s untrue. But all of the lies. So many different things. The bloodbath. That was about the auto industry. But the word is a tough word. China is going to take all our auto business if we go all electric and all this stuff. And the head of the union, I said, is a fool. He sold the union down. I’m doing great with it. You notice where the teamsters like me and they all like me. The workers like me because I’m going to.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Seems to be that way.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. Even even union unions that have never been with a Republican before are endorsing me.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: I mean, it’s incredible. The teamsters voted 61 percent in favor of Trump. Think of it. The I’ll tell you, the FBI would be in almost everybody. I think almost everybody would be in favor.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: But they lie and they say and they know it’s a lie. Charlottesville, the Charlottesville statement was perfect. If they take the next sentence that I gave, I made a statement on it. It was a perfect statement. And if you think. But they never take the next sentence. They cut it off. And then there’s the other one. Patriot peacefully and patriotically in my speech.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: I talked about peacefully and patriotically. They never show that. They never talk about it to show you how dishonest they are. The J6 committee. I call it the unselect. You know, they go to the select committee. I call it the unselect committee of political action and thugs. They never talk about my speech.
Because it was a good speech. It was a patriotic speech.
AKAASH SINGH: Are you numb to this now or.
DONALD TRUMP: No, I never get no bother. No, it bothers me. I’ll tell you what bothers me. Kamala the other day said he is against IVF. And everybody knows that that’s false.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: When I came out, people were a little surprised, actually, because, you know, in theory. But I came out strongly in favor of IVF. She is an add on that I’m against IVF. She knows it’s untrue. She is an add on that bloodbath. Bloodbath means like blood. That’s not what I was talking about. The automobile industry. It’s going to be a bloodbath in the automobile. We’re going to lose all our business.
That’s what’s referring to — when they do things and they do a lot. But I always refer back to the simplicity of McDonald’s. She lied about McDonald’s. She lied about many things. And she’s a liar. There should be some kind of a rule when they know it’s a lie. You can’t do a commercial on it. But this is the thing that’s going to end in twenty nine days so they can say what they want. I have a hard time doing it to them because I’m based. You know, I’m basically a truthful person. But frankly, she’s given me so much ammunition. I don’t really have to. It’s a radical left lunatic who will destroy our nation other than that. But she will destroy our nation.
Abortion and State Rights
DONALD TRUMP: So when you take a look at it and I think that I’m just getting back to your original thought on divorce. Having it back in the states, the people are now voting on it. And we’re going to put an end to a 52 year ordeal. This has been going on for 52 years. It’s back with the states and it’s a vote of the people. And that’s what everybody wanted it to be.
And I think that issue is largely quelled because —
AKAASH SINGH: You’ve said like Arizona, you think went a little bit too far. If you feel a state goes a little bit too far, will you use a little influence to say, hey, maybe we can make it?
DONALD TRUMP: Oh, no, I won’t back it. I won’t. I think you.
AKAASH SINGH: I think it’s important for moderates to hear that.
DONALD TRUMP: I want to give you. No, it’s something I say. No way here.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: But they’re all changing because the people in the state won’t stand for that. There are some states that say under no circumstances you have a daughter and she’s raped by the worst, most violent criminal in the country. And you cannot get her. You cannot take her. She’s got to live with that for the rest of her life.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: She’s got to live with this. And, you know, the father is a monster. He’s from an insane asylum because he killed 50 people.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: And you’re going to have that baby.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: And I can’t. I can’t believe that people are forced to do that. And you have a tiny, you know, right now.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah, it was. It used to be a much bigger segment.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. No, I think I’ve done a good job in a lot of ways because I’ve convinced people that you just can’t do that.
ANDREW SCHULZ: That’s important.
DONALD TRUMP: It’s always been complex. It’s always been tough. But we’ve come a long way with that issue. But just in a nutshell, bringing it back to the states and giving a vote of the people is where they wanted it 30 years ago, 20 years ago, 10 years ago. And then they got a little complex. They talked about the length and, you know, the number with protections —
AKAASH SINGH: With protections for women.
DONALD TRUMP: And to me, you have to Ronald Reagan a long time ago was with the same three protections.
Legacy and Making America Great Again
DONALD TRUMP: He said he wanted, you know, for incest and the life of the mother. And that was a long time ago.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Okay. You have a very busy day. Before you go, what would you like your legacy to be and what do you think it will be? And thank you very much for taking.
DONALD TRUMP: Two very different questions, actually, I think. But —
ANDREW SCHULZ: What would you like it to be?
DONALD TRUMP: I took over a country that was very troubled. This country was broken up and tremendous dissension. And Barack Obama started it. And if you take a look, it was very, very badly broken. And I think now with Biden, you know, let’s forget her for a second. But with Biden and her part of it, big part of it. But with Biden, there’s tremendous dissension. The country is a broken up mess. And it’s broken in a lot of ways. But I would like my legacy to be is the same as the term MAGA — make America great again. I’m going to make this country great again. It’s not a great country right now. It’s loaded.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Great. See, that’s always a great country.
DONALD TRUMP: But I say it has the potential and it was a great country. I think now there’s so much hatred and there’s so much dissension. I think when you have people that can’t walk down Fifth Avenue, when you have people that can’t walk down. Down a street, it ceases to be.
ANDREW SCHULZ: We can always be better. We can always be better.
DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. But you can’t blindfold yourself.
AKAASH SINGH: I’m honest about it. But to me, I’m really proud of America because I think that I don’t I think I can be the best version of myself here. You know, I think that Donald Trump can only happen in America. Your life. What has happened to you? This is an American story. My mom’s life is an American story. Like my mom’s from Scotland. She comes here and has all the success. She’s so grateful of what America is. That doesn’t mean that we can’t make it better. I like the idea of making it better every single time, fixing these things when there’s leaks in the ship. But the idea of America and becoming the greatest version of yourself is something I’ll always be proud of. And I like I understand what you say.
DONALD TRUMP: When I was president, we had no wars in the whole world because of me. I stopped a lot of wars from that makes me proud. Right. But it’s just not happening now. Right now, people are dying in Ukraine because we had an incompetent president. If we had a president that knew what the hell he was doing, Ukraine would have never happened. Israel would have never had all those people that are dying on both sides. That would have never happened. Afghanistan, people falling off airplanes from three. Think of that from three thousand five hundred feet above the ground. Three times the height of the Empire State Building off the side of the airplane. All of this horrible stuff would have never happened. Inflation would have never happened because that was caused by energy and stupid energy.
So. Look, we love our country and it’s had moments of greatness. But it’s I think it’s I think it’s a very it’s a it’s a declining. It’s so sad what’s happened. We’re a nation in decline and we can’t let it be declined. I’ll give you an example. We’re going to lose our monetary base very soon because, you know, countries are going off the dollar. I’m going to get him back on the dollar. You got to go back on there. You’re not going to do any business with, you know, you got to do it. But I do think this where I really agree with you, we have tremendous potential.
And I say it make America great again. And I just want to I would like to have it. I used to have something. I was going to use it and I didn’t use it because the country started to do badly. But it was KAG, not MAGA, KAG. I never liked KAG, but it was keep America great. You like that?
ANDREW SCHULZ: I like this.
DONALD TRUMP: But see, I couldn’t use it because we had so many problems. It sounds like that other word. It doesn’t work as well. There’s never going to be another MAGA. I don’t know. I came up with a phrase that just turned out to be MAGA.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: No, it’s the greatest movement, political movement in the history of our country.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: And these are people that really love our country and they want it to be great. And we’re going to make it great again. That was what I would like to do is make this country so great, better than what you’re even thinking. And you are. I mean, I love your attitude because I think that’s the way you should be.
Addressing Rumors and Future Elections
ANDREW SCHULZ: Sorry. There’s one thing I want to give you a rumor. I’d like to give you a chance to dispel. And one question, if you have time, I’d like to ask selfishly. Rumor the far left, I think, says this thing that, oh, if Donald Trump wins, he’s never going to cede power. Then they have some clip of you saying, just vote for me one time. You won’t have to vote again. I don’t believe this is true. I want to give you a chance to publicly say that’s nonsense. Just so you can publicly speak to any moderates out there.
DONALD TRUMP: What I said, yeah. Christians tend to vote at a very low percentage for some reason. And so do gun owners. Would you believe it? The NRA gun owners tend not to vote. Maybe it’s a rebellious thing. I don’t know. Maybe. I said, look, our country’s in big trouble. Really big trouble with the border, with all the problems. We can solve the problem. But vote this one time. After that, we’re not going to need it. This is the most important election in the history of our country. Vote for this most important election. And then if you don’t want to vote, we’re going to have elections. But you don’t have to vote because it’s going to go along swimmingly.
ANDREW SCHULZ: That’s how I interpreted it. That’s how everybody interpreted it.
DONALD TRUMP: That’s how they interpreted it, too. You’ve got to vote this time because we don’t have, we can’t wait four years. Because you know what? Four years like we’ve just had with this clown that’s a president. That’s just a clown, a foolish man. Don’t forget, he was a stupid man 25 years ago. He was never a smart man. He’s run many times. Isn’t it amazing? He’s run many times and he gets it when he’s in serious decline. But anyway, so everybody knows that. And that’s what I meant by it. It means we’ve got to fix it. And then it’s going to work beautifully. It’s going to run beautifully. We’re going to have elections every two years and every four years, it’s going to be good.
Request for Mindful Communication
ANDREW SCHULZ: I just want to give you a chance to say this. And if I could ask one question. Everybody I speak to, every race, creed, whatever, they don’t just like you. They love you. And I talk to people on both sides about your policies. And a lot of people like your policies. The China tariff that’s still in place right now is an example of policy that people love. I think sometimes what we love about you as comedians is you shoot from the hip. But then that gets twisted into this rhetoric that adds gasoline onto everything. So the one thing I would like, as I think a moderate person, is maybe if you get elected, would you be a little bit more mindful of how powerful your words are for better and for worse?
DONALD TRUMP: I will. And I’m going to think of you every time. I’m going to answer both. I understand that. Sometimes they say, oh, could you be a little bit more? But you’re doing a lot of things. You’re solving a lot of problems. I stopped wars that nobody will ever know about. They won’t write about. The countries that were fighting each other and didn’t affect us much, but they did business with us. I called up two countries that have fought themselves, fought for thousands of years, killing each other for years. And I said, you guys are at it again. I heard it was going to start up. I stopped it when I first came in. I said, listen, here’s the story. If you go to war with each other, I can give you the details, but I don’t even want to bother because it’s nice now. I said. You’re not going to do any more business with the United States. I’m going to cut you off a hundred percent. And if you do get through, I’m going to charge you 200 percent tariffs. You won’t be able to survive. So work it out.
Work it out. You know, it was a country that split. And then they’ve been fighting for years. I think like thousands. I get a call and I forget about it. But I had a rough call with them. And I said, I’m going to charge you tariffs and I’m going to you’re not going to do it. You’re going to be cut off. No more business. And if they don’t have the United States, it’s a problem. We need to make our country strong so we can do this. I mean, if our country is weak, we don’t have that. You know, if we keep getting weaker and weaker, which is happening, we’re not going to let that happen.
So I get a call two weeks later, two days later. Sir, we’ve worked it all out. Thank you very much. And I go about my business. I save thousands of lives, hundreds of thousands. They’ve been killing each other for years, centuries. And I save thousands of lives. And nobody writes about it. Many people don’t even know. That’s the reason, you know, things are good. And I had it out with him. I said, you guys are crazy. You do that. No more doing business with the United States. You’re cut off 100 percent. You’re dead. You’re not going to do 10 cents worth of business. And I even said the tariff thing. But I did the first boost actually even more powerful. And that’s it. I forget about it. I go about doing my business. What on what so-and-so and so-and-so. There’s not going to have a word. They made peace.
I’ve done so many things like that. And none of them hit the news cycle. None of them are known. Most of them aren’t really known. You know, I’ve made I’ve made countries do things for us because they were treating us unfairly. And I’ve gotten things for our country that nobody else. I really think nobody else could have done. But I enjoy doing it for our country. And, you know, just to get back to where you originally started. I want to make America great again. I want to make it so great that people won’t question it. So that people can say what you just said. No, no, it’s great. I don’t want to have a question. Why should I or anybody else say, no, it’s not great anymore? I don’t want to be in that position. I think I want to make it so that when you ask a question like that, we can say, well, it’s a great, great country. We love our country. But we can do a couple of little things. I think we need that. I’ll put that in our.
Abraham Accords and Middle East Peace
ANDREW SCHULZ: Well, first of all, thank you so much. I would be remiss to not even bring this up. You said that you want to have peace in these places, not just Russia and Ukraine. It’s obvious in the Middle East. I know that that’s a very tough task. I don’t think maybe you get enough credit for what you accomplish and your administration accomplished with the Abraham Accords.
DONALD TRUMP: The Abraham Accords. And they did nothing. Yeah. Again, Iran was willing to do a deal. I would have had a deal with Iran. And within seven days after the election, because I was sure we’re going to win the election. But things happened. You know, Covid happened. Of course, a lot of things. It was a mess.
ANDREW SCHULZ: But still, I think it’s something that a diplomacy out in that region that hasn’t existed prior. Is that something I would imagine it would be at the forefront of this next administration?
DONALD TRUMP: You know, there are great philosophers that said the world will end in the Middle East. We’re not going to let that happen. You’ve heard that expression.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Yeah.
DONALD TRUMP: They said the world will end someday in the Middle East. We’re not going to let that happen. OK.
ANDREW SCHULZ: Well, thank you so much. Thank you so much, Mr. President. I really appreciate it.
DONALD TRUMP: Thank you. Thank you.
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