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Why Are We Defending Mass Murder in Gaza? – Tucker Carlson Show (Transcript)

Here is the full transcript of Tucker Carlson Show episode titled “Why Are We Defending Mass Murder in Gaza?”, December 11, 2025.

Brief Notes: Tucker Carlson uses this episode to ask why the U.S. political class continues to defend what he calls “mass murder” in Gaza and to argue that America’s unconditional alignment with Israel is driving a moral and strategic catastrophe. He traces how bipartisan politicians, donors, and lobby groups have, in his view, locked Washington into an “Israel first” foreign policy that ignores U.S. interests, inflames the region, and helps sustain the war. Carlson also highlights alternative perspectives on Gaza, U.S. complicity, and the future of the America First movement, and calls for cutting entangling alliances and radically rethinking the U.S.–Israel relationship.

America’s Chief Ally: A Question Worth Asking

TUCKER CARLSON: America has one great ally in the world, its chief ally, but some calculations maybe its only real ally, that’s the state of Israel. And that has been the case for a long time. In fact, so long that few people question whether that’s a good idea or why exactly that is. Everyone knows our closest ally is Israel and we have all kinds of military and economic ties to Israel but the main way you know Israel is our closest ally is that really up until just the other day there was not a scenario you could conjure in your head in which the United States would take the side of any other country over Israel. That just couldn’t happen.

So Israel’s our chief ally. Hasn’t always been this way. Of course, didn’t exist until right after the second world war. So it’s all pretty new and it’s accelerated with every decade. We’ve come closer and closer to Israel.

Our commitment, not our legal commitment or publicly discussed commitment, but our in effect commitment, our on the ground commitment to Israel has become stronger every year. But there’s no reason that should stay the way it is forever. What if we decided to change it up? What if we decided to get a new closest ally in the world? How about Qatar?

The Qatar Thought Experiment

What if Qatar was our closest ally? Float that one at the next dinner party you go to. People will respond strongly, especially if they’re Fox News viewers. “What? Are you an Islamist? Qatar, the bloodthirsty Islamofascist state. What are you getting paid by the Qatar lobby?”

A quack? Of course, there is no actual a quack, but if there was a Qatar lobby, it should be called a quack. And then you would be forced to explain why Qatar should be our closest ally. And of course people look at you like you were insane, in fact dangerous and probably anti-American.

Let’s stick Qatar out of it for a second. How do you think about, if you’re the United States, who ought to be your closest ally? Who gets that job? Who do you take to the prom?

Thinking Through the Lens of American Interest

And it depends on how you think about it. If you think about it through the lens of American interest, which is to say what’s good for us, then it’s a very different picture. What’s good for us? Well you would want a country that had, I don’t know, natural resources that you might want to have access to. Energy, probably first and foremost, but maybe not. Minerals too. But certainly energy, oil and gas because we need them despite what they may tell you to continue our civilization and to be strong and prosperous. So a big energy supply would be important.

A powerful military might also help and to have a powerful military of course you need a big population to man the military as Ukraine unfortunately is finding out now. It helps to have a lot of people.

So there are a couple of different countries you might throw out there if you were looking purely through the lens of what’s good for the United States, an America first perspective. The most obvious, of course, would be Russia. Russia! Why? Because it’s the biggest country in the world. It’s the biggest land mass in the world and it has enormous mineral deposits, energy deposits. It’s got a lot of oil and gas and gold and everything else you need to run a society. And it also has a formidable military, by far the biggest on that continent, on the European continent, and huge manufacturing capacity.

So like if you needed an ally to help you in a conflict or if you needed a country in which to stage a fight with some other country, a place to put air bases for example, Russia would be like the best, of course. But we can’t be allied with Russia because Russia’s bad. They’re immoral. They’re bad.

Other Potential Allies

You might also say, well Venezuela. Why Venezuela? Well because they have the largest proven oil reserves in the world. They’re in our hemisphere. I don’t know lots of natural resources is right there. Why not make them a big ally? Talk about a place for military bases and trade and that might help us. They’ve got a lot that we might benefit from if we wanted to help our country. You can’t. They’re bad. They’re so bad we’re going to invade them. They’re so immoral we have to go to war with them. We cannot be allies with them. We have to fight them. That’s how immoral they are.

Okay. Well at a certain point you get to places like, I don’t know, Equatorial Guinea. You know, probably not a beacon of democracy, small country, tons of energy though. And then the more obvious ones like Saudi Arabia or UAE or Bahrain, Oman, Kuwait, the rest of the Gulf states. Like those might all be good and we don’t have their same form of government. Those are all monarchies, six monarchies clustered next to each other, but all of them have a ton of energy and they’re all pretty pro-American and they’re in an important part of the world.

What’s Good for America?

So it’s not a matter of being a Qatari nationalist or trying to promote Qatar.