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Why U.S. Prisons Need to Abolish Solitary Confinement: Laura Rovner (Transcript)

Laura Rovner at TEDxMileHigh

Here is the full text of civil rights lawyer Laura Rovner’s talk titled “Why U.S. Prisons Need to Abolish Solitary Confinement” at TEDxMileHigh conference in which she shines a light on solitary confinement in America.

Laura Rovner – TEDx Talk TRANSCRIPT

The drive through the world’s most secure prison is beautiful. The federal government’s only supermax prison, known as ADX, is 90 miles south of Denver.

About an hour into the drive, the urban areas give way to the high desert — big skies, sprawling ranches and open wilderness. Few miles further down the road, you turn left at the Carl’s Jr. and the $60 million federal prison complex comes into view.

Standing outside the building, ADX looks like a newish suburban middle school. The lobby is clean and bright; there’s big windows and clear views of the mountains; and a polite front-desk attendant with a kiosk selling travel mugs.

On the wall is a large plaque that reads, “The best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing.”

Just past it is a huge framed photo of Alcatraz. And down the stairs, at the end of a long hallway, are 400 men decaying in isolation cells.

The first time I went into ADX was to meet a new client. I teach in the civil rights clinic at the University of Denver College of Law where my colleagues and I supervise law students who are learning to practice law by actually practicing it, representing real clients on real cases with real stakes.

Now you’ll note I said I’m a civil rights lawyer, not a criminal defense lawyer. I work on cases involving the constitutional rights of prisoners.

Now, people have differing views about prisoners’ rights. But there’s something more people can agree on: torture.

The US government says it doesn’t use torture, and we condemn other countries, like Iran and North Korea, for their use of torture. But some people think the so-called worst of the worst deserve it: terrorists, mass murderers, the really “bad” people.

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Now I personally believe that no one deserves to be tortured by the US government. But that’s me.

No matter where you fall, there’s a few things I need you to understand before I continue.

First, we do torture people here in America, tens of thousands of them every day. It’s called solitary confinement. It’s done in our names, using our tax dollars, behind closed doors. And as a result, we’re undermining the core values of our justice system.

Built with state-of-the-art technology, ADX has nearly perfected solitary confinement. Each man spends 23 hours a day alone in a cell the size of a small bathroom. Virtually every aspect of his life occurs in that cell. But aside from sleeping and eating, which he does within an arm’s reach of his toilet, there aren’t many aspects of life.

Correctional officers push food trays through slots in the doors and take the men to solitary exercise cages that are referred to by prisoners and staff alike, without irony, as dog runs.

Other than that, these men are locked in cement closets, all day, every day. Two steps forward, two steps back. That’s it.

They can’t see the nearby mountains or any trees — “nothing living, not so much as a blade of grass,” is how one man in ADX described it. Some people report that after years of not looking at anything further than 10 feet away, their eyesight has deteriorated so much that they can’t focus on faraway objects anymore.

The isolation is so deep and profound that one of our clients would lie on the floor of his cell for hours, just hoping to catch a glimpse of someone’s feet as they walked past the door of his cell.

Another befriended a wasp that flew into his cell, feeding it and talking to it like a friend. Some try to communicate with fellow prisoners by yelling through the shower drains. Still though, many of these men lost their voices after talking with us for just an hour. Their vocal cords were out of practice speaking for that long.

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We know the impact of long-term isolation is devastating. This borders on common sense. It’s why harsh prison systems and torture regimes routinely use solitary as a form of severe punishment. And why none of us would tolerate having a loved one, like a parent or a child, locked alone in a small bathroom for days, let alone years… or decades.

In the course of representing that first client at ADX, we learned about another man, Tommy Silverstein, who the Federal Bureau of Prisons put in solitary confinement under a “no human contact” order in 1983, after he killed a corrections officer. Tommy was 31 years old.

Now he’s 66. He’s been in solitary confinement for 35 years. Struggling to find the words to capture his experience of ADX, Tommy, who has become an accomplished artist, drew it instead.

Unless we start to change how we treat prisoners in this country, he’ll probably be there for the rest of his life.

Both John McCain and Nelson Mandela said that of all the horrors they suffered in prison, solitary confinement was the worst. That’s because solitary puts people at risk of losing their grasp on who they are, of how and whether they’re connected to a larger world.

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