Basement #004: w/ Chris Bledsoe on UFO Contact, Government Secrets and the CIA (Transcript)

So on the first or second of January, I sent the crew back, told them to do their work and bring me a check back. And that’s exactly what they did.

On January 8th, they called me: “Hey boss, we got your job done. We’d like to celebrate. We don’t have to drive out of town anymore.” It had been four months they’d been going two hours away. So I was at home, my wife was off with the rest of the kids, but it was Chris Jr. and I there. We agreed to go fishing in the middle of the day in January.

It was about 2:30 when we got to the river. I was having a hard time mentally — depressed and struggling. So I didn’t fish. I had my son there, he’s 17, and these three grown men. They were crew leaders, doing roofing and framing — people that had worked with our family, with my dad, for years and years. I thought it’d be nice to get Chris Jr. out of the house.

So we get to the river at 2:30, and I left walking. Once I got them set up, I left at about 3:30 or 4.

AJ GENTILE: Why did you leave?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I wanted to get away and think. I wasn’t into fishing. I just wanted to make sure they were settled in. I’m a manager, right? So I managed the crew, and I felt like they were all set up — sitting on the bank with their poles. They’re good. I’m going to go find some space and think.

AJ GENTILE: Okay, so you had the intention.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yes.

The Orbs Appear

CHRIS BLEDSOE: So I left walking. Imagine you go to the dead end of a cul-de-sac, drive down into the woods, and it dead-ends into a round grassy area about an acre. I walked into the cul-de-sac to the back of it, looking for deer really — just looking for some away time for myself.

So I’m sitting beside a big tree, and it starts getting dark in the woods a lot earlier than out in the open. I think it was 4:45 when I came walking out of the woods and walked up to where they were fishing. I said, “You guys want to go home or do you want to fish some more?” They said, “We just got here, we want to do some more.” I said, “Well, it’s going to get cold tonight. Better get a fire going.”

So all five of us — me, Chris Jr., and the three guys — went around the cul-de-sac picking up dead wood. We had a huge pile of wood and a little fire going by about 10 after 5.

I said, “It’s going to be dark soon. I’m going to walk up to the field the way we came in.” Not the end of the cul-de-sac — I walked a quarter mile up to the field. It’s uphill, about 100 feet of elevation from the riverbank where we were fishing up to this cornfield. There’s a flat field and a gate.

It was about 15 or 20 minutes after 5, so it wasn’t dark yet. The sun was setting behind the trees. When I got near the top of that hill, I could see the trees on the far side. I couldn’t see the field yet, but I could see what I thought was the top of the summer sun sticking up right above the hill. I looked down because it was muddy and I was walking — I’d look up, take another step.

When I got up to the top of that hill where I could see clearly, I said, “That doesn’t look like the sun. That’s really weird.” There was fire going around this thing. I looked down, took two more steps, and when I did, I could see a wider peripheral view — because the higher up I got, the more my view spread. There was another one sitting right beside it that I hadn’t seen at first. So now I’ve got two huge balls of fire.

AJ GENTILE: How far away are they?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Probably 300 yards away, about 200 feet in the air, sitting right above the trees. There was this flame going around them, and little tips of fire were shooting off these things.

I immediately froze. I’m a commercial rated pilot. I knew what I was looking at wasn’t anything from us at all. And I’d never really studied UFOs — I was dealing with poverty and sickness. It scared me.

I got down on my stomach and raised my head up to look above the hill, because I still had some more hill in front of me. I was just mesmerized. But I started getting worried — my son’s down the hill. I need to get back down there and tell them what I’m looking at.

The minute I decided to run, I had it in my thoughts: “I’m going to run.” I turned my body, looking back behind me at it, and stood up to run. And the minute I stood up, right above me, another one appeared and shot down right in front of me.

At that moment, A.J., I knew that it knew what I was thinking. I knew that it saw me. I felt like a lab rat. It was just overwhelming — knowing that this thing had me on its radar. That’s when it all changed, when it came at me.

AJ GENTILE: You’re a hunter, and now you’re on the other side.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, yeah. That’s a good explanation.

AJ GENTILE: You knew it was watching you. Was that an animal instinct? Or did you hear it, feel it?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I didn’t know it was watching me at first — the two I was looking at, I thought I was hiding from them. But I was thinking, “I’ve got to run. Oh my God, what am I looking at?” And the minute I went to run, this other one appeared. I knew immediately that it knew I was going to run. It was connected to my thoughts, and I couldn’t get away. That was the first thing I knew.

But luckily, they wiped my memory. So I had that moment of fear — and then all of a sudden, the lights went out.

AJ GENTILE: Just everything went dark.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Just everything went dark.

The Missing Time

CHRIS BLEDSOE: And so the next thing I realized, I’m walking up to the fire. I don’t remember leaving at the top of the hill. I don’t remember any of that. I just remember the last 50 or so feet going up to the fire. So I’m walking in the dark. They can’t see me coming. And these three guys are standing at the campfire. They’re not fishing anymore. They’re standing there. And the fire’s burnt down to very little. I left, and it was a pretty good-sized fire.

It scared them bad when I snuck up on them. And I’m like, “Gosh, you won’t believe what I just saw.” They’re like, “Where have you been?” I said, “I was just up at the hill. I’ve been gone but 20 minutes.” And they’re like, “No, you’ve been gone all night, and we’ve been looking for you all night.”

I said, “Well, where’s Chris Jr.?” He wasn’t there. And so they said, “Well, he went back to the cul-de-sac, where you went earlier today, looking for you, while we took your truck and drove up and down the road. And one guy stayed at the fire the whole time.”

So I panicked. My son’s down in that forest, and it goes for 50 miles to Wilmington, with very little to nothing in there. I was just dreading that he was lost.

AJ GENTILE: Sure.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: So I panicked and took off running, ran to the back of the cul-de-sac, where I’d gone in that day. And he knew where I’d gone because he’d been watching me all the time. I cried out to him. I started shouting for him, and nothing — couldn’t hear anything. So I started making my way into the forest. I got about 10 feet in there, and I heard him getting up off the ground. He was laying on his stomach underneath these real thick shrubs.

He came up, and he was in tears. He’s like, “Oh, my God, Daddy, why’d you leave me?” And I said, “I didn’t leave you, son. I just walked up to the field. I was gone 20 minutes.” He said, “No, you’ve been gone all night. We’ve been looking.” So I’m like, “Oh, my God. What’s happening?”

AJ GENTILE: What happened?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: What’s happened? But I wasn’t scared anymore.

AJ GENTILE: You weren’t?

Creatures in the Dark

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Not at all. From that point forward, it was like amusement. My son is freaked out. He’s in shock. These three guys are in shock — they’re terrified. So I drag him back to the fire where they were standing. They’re very quiet because I was telling them about this ball of light I saw at the top of the hill.

And Chris Jr. is talking about this creature that he had seen coming from a quarter mile away. The road at the end of the cul-de-sac is a quarter mile, and then it makes a left, which is only an eighth of a mile. So he sees this light come out in the road way down at the end — a red glowing light. He thought it was a flashlight. In the military they use a lot of these red lenses on their flashlights. He has guns and infrareds, so that’s what he thought it was.

And there were two of them. They went across the road about three feet off the ground, and then they came back out on the road and started towards him. He’s standing back, calling for me. The closer they got, the more afraid he got.

AJ GENTILE: Can he see what they are at this point?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Well, no. He sees these two lights — two red balls of light — coming towards him. So he crawls under these bushes, trying to get away, just because he’s afraid. He couldn’t go back to the fire because now it’s between him and the fire. So he’s hiding, and they get within 15 or 20 feet of him.

And there are these two little creatures that were glowing. They could turn — it’s like a rheostat — they could turn themselves up and glow brighter, or they could turn themselves down to where they looked almost translucent. In a dark night, they look almost like black figures, but with red eyes. It was their eyes that were red. That’s what he was seeing.

AJ GENTILE: Like a humanoid shape?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, they look like humans — like humans in a way. I have a picture I drew and painted. I’ll share it with you. I painted this in 2009.

Stars That Weren’t Stars

So anyway, I don’t know what to think. My son’s crying. He’s upset. He’s seen creatures. He’s complaining that I left him, abandoned him. I drag him back to the fire. These guys are freaked out — grown men, tough country boys that don’t get afraid in the woods — and now they’re very quiet.

Junior’s talking about the creatures. I’m talking about the light. And all of a sudden one of the guys says, “Look.” And we all look up, and there are between eight and nine, maybe 10 bright stars — bright as Venus — that just appear. They just come on. And then they started flying around and doing things. It’s almost like somebody choreographed it.

AJ GENTILE: And they just appear out of the sky. Just materialize.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, just materialized above us. They were way up there, bright as Venus, each one. And they were playing — flying out and coming back together. We were watching this, and all of a sudden, here come three down, and they land on the other side of the river in front of us. The river is only 60 or 70 yards wide. It’s not a big one.

So here they are on the other side of the river in the woods, and pandemonium set in. These guys freaked out. I’m not afraid — I’m mesmerized. Whatever they did to me, I was no longer afraid.

AJ GENTILE: I’d be angry at you because you’re so peaceful.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, and they were angry. Sure. They were panicked. So we ran and jumped in the truck. There are three men in the back seat and Chris and I in the front of a four-door Ford pickup.

AJ GENTILE: They didn’t let you drive, I hope.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I was driving.

AJ GENTILE: With your arm out and a radio on there screaming at you.

The Tic-Tac in the Road

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Well, I’m starting up the path right out of there, and this road is muddy — real muddy. The bushes were scrubbing the mirrors as we went down through there. And they’re screaming every breath, “Go, go, go.” And Chris Jr. is just saying, “I want to get home, Dad, I want to get home.”

One of them told MUFON, when we reported it, that they had witnessed a red ball of light come out of the woods and follow the truck as we were driving up out of there. So undoubtedly they were still there — they’d never left. They just went invisible.

When we got up to the top of the hill, to where I had my experience, we went up that hill so fast it almost went airborne when I went over. It’s a real steep incline there. And there in front of us were the same two red balls of fire in the same exact spot. This is four hours later. The third one that appeared and frightened me — it’s no longer a ball of fire, but a Tic-Tac. It’s a glowing white egg.

AJ GENTILE: While you’re still in the truck?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, it’s in the road in front of us. The one that came over and said, “I see you” — that’s the one that took me. Now it’s an egg in the road. It’s not red anymore. It’s glowing white. It’s 45 to 50 feet long, and it’s like a football or an egg.

AJ GENTILE: Can you see that it’s a structure, that it’s a craft? Or is it just light?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: It was all light.

AJ GENTILE: Just light.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: And the light was doing this — it’s like sparkles of light going around. It almost looked like spikes coming out of it. And this thing just pivots. It’s only five feet off the ground, 150 yards from us in the road. It pivots, starts towards us, and as it gets closer it starts rising up — right over my sunroof. We watched it through the sunroof, and all the guys were looking out. It was probably 100 feet in the air, totally silent. And then it pivoted and shot off like out of a canyon to the north.

I hit the gas and we took off. And there became a fight between the guys over who gets to go home first.

AJ GENTILE: Are the fire orbs still with you at that point?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: There are just balls of — I haven’t seen the fire ones now. We left them. They were still sitting there. So we left because this thing had the path blocked. We couldn’t go because the road was blocked. But once it went over us, they were beating on my seat, screaming, “I want to see my wife before it’s over.” We thought the world was coming to an end, that we were being invaded. I didn’t understand what was happening.

A Road Haunted by Grief

It did something to me. Here’s an important thing. We left from that point racing. Only a mile and a half down the street is where I was shot when I was 10 years old. Well, at a mile and a half is also where my first wife was killed. And I found her there when I was just a young 20-year-old guy.

I married this sweetheart that I’d had for four or five years. And on the 11th month and 28th day of our marriage — two days before our one-year anniversary — I’d been out of town hunting. My dad and I and his hunting club would take boats down on the coast and run dogs on islands, chasing deer. Grew up doing that.

And I knew that she was going to be at this party out in the country. A bunch of friends since we were young — we’d always had a cornfield, they’d go hang out and stay out of trouble. Never went to bars and all that.

AJ GENTILE: We find trouble somewhere.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah. We were out in the country, and the law found out about it. They’d come and raid us every now and then, catch young kids drinking beer and stuff. So we had a party. I came in at 9 o’clock and I took off to the party.

And I write about this in detail in my book — why I left. One of her old boyfriends was all snuggled up with her when I got there, and I turned around and I left. I spoke to him and said, “I’m going home.” So I started home, went two miles down the road, and turned around to go back to meet her. Because I’m like, I’m not letting this guy take what’s mine. I was just mad.

Of course I turned around to go back, and on the way back, in this very sharp curve, there was a car laying on its side. I could see the bottom side of it. I hit the brakes and jumped out of the car. Didn’t know who it was. It was dark, laying on its side. So as I’m looking in the car, the front door of the house opens — the tires are still turning on the car, it just happened, and the motor’s still running, laying on its side.

I ran to the door. They came out and looked, they’d heard it. And I said, “You better call the ambulance rescue. Somebody’s probably hurt. I can’t find who it was.” So I left and started back to the road, and that’s where I tripped over her, laying in the shade.

AJ GENTILE: This is your first wife, Dana?

Carrying the Weight of Guilt

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah. She was laying in the shade of the pump house — a water pump. But that night when we left the river, I blamed myself for that all those years. Like I could have — I was part of it. But I wasn’t.

AJ GENTILE: You’d forgiven yourself at this point?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I couldn’t.

AJ GENTILE: You couldn’t.

The First Encounter with the Beings

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah. But that night when we left the river, everybody’s freaking out, scared. I’m in la-la land for what had just happened. I don’t know. I’m not afraid. It’s the biggest thing I remember.

So we get to that mile and a half down from where we worked. We go through that curve. Here’s this big, huge thing hovering right over where she was killed. And I slowed down and I’m trying to stop, and they’re beating on my seat. “Don’t stop.” And I’m like, “I just want to see. I want to see.” And they’re having nothing to do with it.

And it spoke to me. It just put this vision in my head, and it said, “You have to forgive yourself. She’s fine. Don’t worry about this any longer.” And so that was the first time in 25 years that I had peace over that. So all that together over the next couple of years is what made me understand this thing was so much bigger than some alien coming from the Pleiades.

AJ GENTILE: Right.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: That aggravates me. Yeah. But anyhow, not to drag that whole event out too long. We dropped the guys off. Chris Jr. and I head home. He didn’t want to go back that way. Going back towards the house was that way — a shortcut — because we’d have had to drive back under that power line and where this thing was. So we took the long way around, got home. It was probably 11:30, and Christopher ran through the house locking everything. He’d opened the bathroom door with no window in it, turned the light on, and locked the door. He had every door locked, all the windows shut, all the floodlights on.

I’m in my room trying to see on TV if the military’s coming. We just know there’s an invasion. Because it wasn’t one — it was probably 15 in total that we were seeing that night. Nine or 10 at once, and then others up on the hill.

AJ GENTILE: I’ve heard Chris Jr. talk recently, and he still struggles with the story.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, he does. It’s traumatic. You can never get over those things. But he’s 36 now and has a baby on the way — two children and one coming — and he’s very happy and he understands it now a whole lot more. He ran from it for a long time, and it wasn’t all his fault. It was pressure from the community and the church that caused a whole lot of problems for us.

Locked Down at Home

AJ GENTILE: Well, when you got home from the experience, your wife Yvonne wasn’t there yet?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: No, no, she was off at her mother’s, staying with her mom. They were doing something for a couple of days. So we’re home now. The house is locked down. Junior comes in my room and he’s like, “Have you seen anything?” I’m like, “No,” — this is like total normal. I don’t know what’s happening.

AJ GENTILE: Are you still peaceful?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, I am. But he’s not. He’s in shock, sure. And suddenly my dad, who lived next door — we lived out in the country, our houses beside one another — he had dog kennels there where he’d raised hunting dogs all his life. Before I was born, he had dogs. He’d have 30 or 40 all the time. One time he had 104, but he had 15 hounds.

Then all of a sudden, they started barking. All of them. And hounds bark very loud — big, mouthy, deep voice. And I knew that what they were saying was that they were scared. They were doing what I’d call a “boo bark.” Dogs do that — they hear or see something, but they don’t know what it is.

AJ GENTILE: Right.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I’ve seen that with bear hunting. A bear coming out on a dog descent will put them in a panic.

AJ GENTILE: Is that what you thought it was, a bear?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I thought it was a bear or a deer or something. So all the dogs are barking. Then I thought maybe somebody’s breaking into Dad’s shop. That was my first thought — somebody’s breaking into the shop — because the dog kennel is next to his garage. He and I shared this big 40-foot garage. We had boats and fishing gear and tools in it.

So I’m imagining the dogs seeing somebody going into that shop. And I said, “Christopher” — he’s freaked out now, he’s scared, these dogs are barking — “I’m going outside. I’m going to see who’s breaking into that shop.” And he didn’t want any part of that. He’s like, “Please don’t go out there, Daddy, please don’t.”

I’m like, “Look, we won’t take a flashlight. We got Rosie here — she’s a 110-pound Chesapeake. She’ll keep anything away from us. We’ll just sneak down there and see who we see, maybe scare them away.”

So I opened the door. He had me by the back of the shirt and he never turned me loose. We walked across the yard into the pathway to the dog kennel. It was down in the woods behind the house. We walk in there and I look, and they’re all looking out the back of the kennel. They’re not looking toward the garage — they’re looking into the forest behind it. So immediately I thought maybe it’s a bear.

AJ GENTILE: Right.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Because they were barking every breath, facing into the forest. All 15, plus my Chesapeake. She’s frozen, her hair standing up, and she’s pointing into the bushes. So I’m whispering to Chris, “I’m going to send her in on whoever’s in there, whatever. Let’s just run back out to the back of the property. We’ll make a run for it. We’ll go back and hide behind that big oak tree and see what she pushes out of there.” Typical hunting — that’s what we did. Try to cut the dogs off, put them in, and get in front of them and see what comes out.

AJ GENTILE: They’re trained to do this.

The Glowing Figure in the Forest

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah. So I bumped her on the rear and she took off immediately. So we took off running. You’ve got to run hard to get down this path and back to the yard and to the back. And I felt Chris turn loose when I made a left turn — the grass was getting frosty and I slipped — and he turned loose. I thought, well, I just outran him.

So I ran as hard as I could. I ran up to this tree and stopped myself — ran up to it in a full run. And I’m trying to be quiet, but I’m breathing heavy and I’m trying to calm my breath. I’m against the tree, and the dog’s coming, coming straight at me, very loud. It’s quiet at night and this thing — you hear it coming through the forest — it’s real loud.

So I turned to look back to see if Christopher was coming. And this all happened so quick. When I looked back, he was gone. He didn’t come. He took — he couldn’t stand it anymore, so he ran to the house. When he turned loose, he took a right, I took a left.

AJ GENTILE: Yep.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: But when I did, AJ — there, standing behind me about arm’s length — was this little figure, yay tall, which I painted. And it was glowing white, about three —

AJ GENTILE: Three feet, three and a half feet.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Three feet. No more than three, probably. And it was glowing white and it had what looked like a triangle on its chest — a dark area, triangle-shaped. And it had red glowing eyes, about this big around. They were round, perfectly round, glowing eyes. And it scared me. Scared me bad when I saw it.

So I backed myself up to the tree to try to get away from it, but I’ve got a tree behind me. I’m looking at it, so I turn and face it, and I dropped my hands and I said, “I surrender.” And the dogs are still coming.

AJ GENTILE: Rosie’s barking.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: She’s barking every breath, coming very close.

AJ GENTILE: She sees this.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Well, she senses it. I think it’s the energy. Dogs have a way of seeing things we can’t.

AJ GENTILE: I agree.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: So the dogs are definitely coming. This all happened very quick. I’m facing this three-foot thing that’s glowing. I’m panicked that I’m going to die. I thought it was going to kill me. And I said, “I surrender. I don’t mean you any harm.” And it said, “You don’t understand. We’re here to help you, not hurt you.” That’s exactly what it said. And then the dog comes out of the bushes and this thing vanishes — right in front of me, immediately vanished.

AJ GENTILE: Did it speak, or did you hear this in your mind?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I heard it in my mind. Loud. Sounded like a man’s voice — deep, thunderous, loud. That’s one of the few times I ever heard an audible voice. You don’t hear voices, but I heard that one plain. I heard it when the lady came in 2012 — this audible voice.

AJ GENTILE: Yeah, I would definitely want to get into that.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: “Lady, arise.” Just like that. And so it vanishes. And when MUFON did their investigation, that whole tree started decaying and dying and rotted down. They found some kind of something on it that had radiated it and killed it. That’s what they said.

So I go back to the house thinking about how I’m going to tell Christopher about this. I better not say anything. Good call. Yeah. And so I made it to the house and now I’m panicked. I was a smoker then — I had to have a cigarette.

AJ GENTILE: That’s why you couldn’t outrun this thing.

The Seven-Foot Being

CHRIS BLEDSOE: And so I’m trying to find a cigarette, and Chris is like, “You can’t go outside, you can’t go outside to smoke.” So I go over to the back of my sunroom and put my knees on the couch and reach over behind it and started raising the window up. I didn’t even get the window open. When I raised the blinds, the floodlight on that corner was illuminating this 7-foot-tall being that was walking towards the house. I could see it in the floodlight, 20 feet away. That scared me.

AJ GENTILE: What did that look like?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Like the being on the Crabwood crop circle.

AJ GENTILE: Okay, so this is also a humanoid?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, very tall, skinny thing. And it was scary looking. So I grabbed Junior by the arm — didn’t tell him — and I said, “We don’t want to stay here tonight. We’re going to go somewhere else.” So we went four or five miles away — and this is midnight, one o’clock — where are we going to go? So we went down to a big hayfield and parked in the middle so I could see in every direction until the sun came up. I’m having to manage my child. He’s panicking.

Parallels with Devil’s Den

AJ GENTILE: Have you ever heard of the incident at Devil’s Den?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I’ve heard of Devil’s Den. Yeah.

AJ GENTILE: It’s almost the same creatures, really. Small creatures with red eyes and a very large being with them.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Wow, I never knew that.

AJ GENTILE: And they’re walking around the forest and they’re picking up different objects and surveying them.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: That’s what they were doing with Chris. He was sitting there, pinned down under the bushes, and they were 20 feet from him — two of them — and one was on its knees picking up bottles and cans and sticks. It would look at them and put them on the ground, while the other one was staring at him the whole time. And he said that he couldn’t scream, he couldn’t yell. He felt frozen when it looked at him. He had absolutely no control over himself. He couldn’t talk, he couldn’t move. And he felt a lot of trauma.

AJ GENTILE: There at Devil’s Den, that large creature had a triangle on its chest.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Get the heck out. I’d never heard that.

AJ GENTILE: It shows up in all these stories — the triangle.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I never heard that.

AJ GENTILE: Yeah.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Makes sense why NASA came calling and said, “We’d like to talk about that little being with the triangle on its chest.”

Chronology of Events

AJ GENTILE: Well, where are we chronologically at this point? You’re with Junior. Your wife is back?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: She comes back two days later.

AJ GENTILE: Okay.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: So this is on a Tuesday night, I think.

AJ GENTILE: Okay.

The Church’s Reaction and Five Years of Darkness

CHRIS BLEDSOE: By the end of the week, Thursday or Friday, she comes home with the other kids. And I had the greatest story to tell. And it was scaring my wife because she was raised in the Pentecostal Holiness Church, and her family is generous. They were part of the whole movement. They brought it to North Carolina. Her grandmothers and ancestors were very big in the conference. So I had that whole weight on my head there. That was the first night. The end of the first night.

AJ GENTILE: When you were telling her the story, were you telling it from that position of peace? Because I can’t see her reacting positively.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Well, I was telling her the story, and Jenner was telling it too. She didn’t want to believe it. And then when the other guys came a couple days later, they came back to the house to bring back my fishing poles, because we left everything on the river.

AJ GENTILE: Sure.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: We left coolers and sitting right there, sticks still with rods in them. So she questioned them, and immediately the church condemned it as the devil.

AJ GENTILE: How did the church find out?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Well, my wife’s family is the church. My mom and my family, they’re all big in the church. And we live in the Bible Belt, so the whole community knew.

AJ GENTILE: Did she tell them because she was worried?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Well, she was worried about how to handle this with the children, because the children were frightened.

AJ GENTILE: Sure.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: My 10-year-old daughter thought I was disrupting their school. It just disrupted everything — the school, their sleep. And I have to say, my wife is a very loving person. We’ve been together 43 years and I couldn’t live without her. She’s the calm one, she’s the mother. She’s worried about school in the morning, and I’m like Dustin Hoffman all of a sudden —

AJ GENTILE: — with the mashed potatoes.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, I was just like that. I still am. I mean, I came home and she said I looked wild in the eyes. I was just saying, “Oh my God, you won’t believe what happened.” And when she called her family and my family, it turned into, “It was a demonic experience. You’re playing with the devil.”

Because the Christian church believes — not the Catholics, not the Protestants — they preach just the devil. Any light you see, if it’s not of God, it’s got to be evil.

AJ GENTILE: How did you know it wasn’t?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Because it healed me, and it told me, “I’m here to help you, not hurt you.” But I struggled with that. Who was it? Was it an alien? It didn’t act like what an alien would. It knew my prayer, it heard me. So I started researching the Bible and learned about the chariots of fire, and immediately it started making sense.

I furthered my research by meeting Dr. Diane Salka and Dr. George Zervos and a whole lot of other religious scholars and people who know this. And we started digging into the text and researching — and we’re still researching.

Biblical Connections: Clouds of Heaven

AJ GENTILE: What did you find in your research of the Bible that tracks with this story?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: This is something Diana gave me. She said, “I’m going to give you this. I can’t talk about it, but I’m going to tell you this. I want you to pay attention to what I’m going to tell you.”

And that is, throughout the Bible — Mark, Matthew, Luke, Revelations, and even in Exodus — there is something called the “clouds of heaven.” This will be in my next book, by the way. But the clouds of heaven — I’m like, “What is that, Diana?” She said, “Well, these clouds, some of them are talking, some of them are shiny, some of them are feeding people, some of them are protecting people.”

For example, in Exodus, it says an angel of the Lord went before the children of Israel for 38 years in a pillar of a cloud — pillar meaning a pylon or cylinder. Wherever that thing went for 38 years, they camped underneath it. It fed them manna in the morning, and it gave them shade by day and warmth and light at night for 38 years.

Matthew 24 talks about Jesus saying, “When I come back, I’m coming in the clouds of heaven. I’m going to come back the way I left.” And it says he was taken up in a cloud. So Diana educated me on this very carefully, and there is just tons of evidence.

AJ GENTILE: Do you know Daniel 10? It talks about him being made of topaz, made of light — if that’s the right book.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yes. Daniel, Chapter 10 talks about his angelic vision, what he saw. Daniel saw an angel, and it was so shiny it looked like topaz. And it had red eyes like fire.

AJ GENTILE: Like torches.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, like fire torches. Yeah.

AJ GENTILE: And in Ezekiel 40, he talks about meeting a messenger made of shiny bronze who shows him this temple of the future.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah. Crazy, huh?

AJ GENTILE: And then in Enoch 19, Archangel Uriel takes him up above the clouds and shows him the origins of the wind and the earth, and takes him over Egypt and all these places. And I thought you had an experience kind of like that, didn’t you?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: That’s where they took me. I didn’t know what happened during those four hours. I had no clue. But after Dr. O’Connell came from Harvard and started working on me, he said, “You’ll remember it all over time.”

AJ GENTILE: He was a student of Dr. Mack?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yep. John Mack. He trained under Mack.

AJ GENTILE: So John Mack, for folks listening, was an award-winning expert psychiatrist at Harvard who specialized in abduction and contact experiences.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: He actually started all this research.

AJ GENTILE: Yes, he did.

Hypnosis, Hidden Memories, and the Tour of Egypt

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Dr. Michael O’Connell was a student of his and got his degrees there, and he started helping me with hypnosis to get rid of the headache I had. Every time I tried to think about what happened, I’d get this massive headache and eventually pass out. It happened numerous times in front of investigators. My wife would tell you, “You keep asking him those questions, he’s going to pass out on you.” Because there was such a block in there — it would become this pressure, and it would get so painful that I would just black out.

He removed that block so I could think about it without the pain. And he said, “If you learned everything overnight, it would probably cause you to melt down. So we’re going to program your subconscious to reveal everything over time.” And that’s what he did.

So immediately I started having all kinds of weird dreams. I would start yelling and crying in my sleep, and it started scaring my wife and the kids. I go to bed early because I get up early, and they’re night owls. They’d come sneaking into the room because they could hear me, and they’d record me talking in my sleep.

AJ GENTILE: What were you saying?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I was saying all kinds of things. One crazy thing I was saying is that they took me to Egypt. It was like a virtual tour, being inside a bubble — something clear and round. I could touch the walls but couldn’t see them. And I was looking at the Sphinx and the pyramids and Hathor’s temple and all these obelisks, and they were narrating what I was seeing. I was getting the images, not the information.

AJ GENTILE: Were they narrating like a tour guide in a museum?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yep, yep.

AJ GENTILE: So there wasn’t a message — it was just, “This is Hathor’s temple, this is…”

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah. Well, I didn’t know what it was at the time. I just saw it. And that caused me to get into deep research into Egypt. I met Dr. Robert Gilbert, who ran the Vesica Institute — he taught sacred geometry. Sadly, he passed away last year. But he made a lot of sense of what I was seeing.

So it’s been a long journey trying to figure it all out. I don’t have the answers. The more I learn, the more I realize I don’t know. This is so big, we can’t imagine what is around us.

But they also took me up over the Midwest. The scary thing — the thing that got the powers that be even more interested — was that I saw the sun start to grow in size in the sky.

AJ GENTILE: Before you get to that — is this before what you call in your book your “Five Years of Darkness”?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: This was during the Five Years of Darkness.

The Five Years of Darkness

AJ GENTILE: Can you tell me a little bit about how you went from this experience where you’re feeling peaceful to five years of darkness? That’s a lot of darkness. What happened?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Well, why I call it that is I came home with this story, acting like Dustin Hoffman, and they’re looking at me like I’ve lost it. Because I’m saying all this weird stuff and I’m completely obsessed with it.

AJ GENTILE: Bad.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: And I couldn’t control it. And that turned into a backfire, because the more I talked about it, the worse it got. It got so bad that I came home one day and the sheriff pulled up in the yard with social workers.

It got so bad that at elementary schools and high schools, they were questioning my kids, because I was on TV now. MUFON made a DVD in 2008, promised to vindicate me, and they made it worse.

AJ GENTILE: That was a hit job.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, it was a hit job. And so now I’ve got the school questioning my kids. Next thing I know, social services is at my house trying to remove me from my family. So all of this is the darkness — for five years, it was just constant.

AJ GENTILE: This might be too personal a question, but is your wife on your side at this point?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, she’s on my side, but it’s out of control now. She’s just trying to be a mom, live her normal life, and raise her four kids.

AJ GENTILE: And are you still welcome in church?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Well, they told me I had to completely stop talking about this if I ever wanted to be involved in the church anymore. And I’m like, “Sorry, I am having church.” To me, it is church. It’s not evil, it’s not the devil. It’s something much greater, and I aim to pursue that. So yeah, they gave me that ultimatum. Although I’ve been a couple of times during Easter or Mother’s Day — going with the wife. But that’s about it.

AJ GENTILE: I want us to take a break in just a minute, but can you give us, before we go to break, that final scene — that final moment in the Five Years of Darkness where everything changed?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Okay, yeah. That’s when it all changed.

AJ GENTILE: Yeah. And then when we come back, we can get into it further.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Good. So five years of fighting social services, fighting the community’s ridicule — it was so bad I wouldn’t go to the grocery store anymore. I’d hold my head down. And here I am working with NASA. I’ve got NASA scientists at my house, and I’m down at Cape Canaveral and all these places. A NASA scientist, Al Palmeyer, went to my mom and dad’s house and said, “You need to listen to your son. He’s not lying.”

The Breaking Point: Easter 2012

AJ GENTILE: Yeah, don’t worry, gang. We’re going to get into all that in a moment.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: So at the end of five years, it was Easter of 2012. I was so beat down that Richard Dreyfuss and me had gone into hiding now and shame. The zeal that I had hadn’t gone away. But the wall I was hitting was now affecting my kids because my kids were coming home crying. They were being made fun of in school, picked on in the hallways and called out in class by teachers and children.

So I went to bed that night at 9:30. It was a Saturday night of 2012, before Easter. That Sunday morning was Easter. I walked out about 9 o’clock and I looked up at the heavens. And it killed me to say it because I was so deeply moved by what happened, and the Richard Dreyfuss experience, to experience it and to talk about it and to find more. This was all I wanted. And I had to concede. I let the community beat me down, and the church, and the family. And I say extended family. Our family’s big in our town and we’ve been there since the 1700s. So there are two or three hundred cousins and relatives in that town.

So I went out and I shouted at the heavens. “Why did you do this to me? Now I’ve ruined my children’s lives. I was sick. Thank you for healing me. I lost everything. Now I have nothing. It’s worse. I can’t even get a job now. Nobody will hire me.” I had put in for several jobs. I needed work. I couldn’t get any work. Not even family members would hire me. People that had worked for me. It got that bad.

So I shouted at God and I said, “I quit. I’ll never talk about this again.” To save my children and what’s left. And I went to bed at 9:30.

At 3:00 in the morning, I know it was 3 because when I heard this voice, it was so loud it woke me up out of a dead sleep. My alarm clock on the counter — back then we had the digital ones — it said 3am. So I heard it and I sat up in the bed. And I could see movement, just a flare. It’s not very clear, but I could see movement at the end of my bed in my room.

AJ GENTILE: Let’s stop there. Let’s take a break.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Okay.

AJ GENTILE: It’s a good spot for a break.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Good.

The Voice at 3am

AJ GENTILE: We’ll be right back. It’s Easter 2012 and you shout, “I’m done. I don’t want any more to do with this. You ruined my life.” You wake up at 3am and this voice —

CHRIS BLEDSOE: — said, “Arise.” And it sounded like the deepest, most manly voice I’d ever heard. So I wake up, I see this movement at the end of my bed, and I’m like, “Who said that? I know you’re in here.” Those are the very words I said.

I don’t know what happened, how they’re able to control our movements and what we do. Maybe they can turn time off, I don’t know. But I got up fully dressed. I had been in my underclothes, but now I’m in full blue jeans, socks, and a coat. And I’m heading outside. So I walk behind these shadowy figures, following them.

AJ GENTILE: You’re not afraid?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: No. I haven’t been afraid since. Ever since what happened, I lost all fear. It’s not here to hurt. And I knew that. I still know that.

So I’m following it, and it leads me out to the dog kennel, right where Chris Jr. and I had put Nelly in the forest and said, “Go get them.” They were standing in the same spot. And one of these shadowy figures hands me something. It stops, reaches out, and hands me this object. And it said, “This is yours, you must keep.” So I reached out and I took it. And when I did, it felt like holding a hedgehog. They had little spikes on them. It felt prickly. So I dropped it on the ground.

AJ GENTILE: No head or tail?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: No head, no tail. It just felt like a bag of bones, like an animal with no legs, no head, no tail.

AJ GENTILE: You’re describing a tribble from Star Trek, maybe. Okay, so you dropped it.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I dropped it. And it said, “No, you must keep this.” So I reached down to pick it up, and I’m juggling the thing. I’m scared of it. It’s dark, right? And I look up and they’re gone. So I’m standing at the dog kennel. I thought, I’m not going to let it get away. I’m not going to lose it. I open the dog kennel, set it in, and close the door.

AJ GENTILE: Are the dogs in there?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: No, they’re gone.

AJ GENTILE: So whatever this is, is not safe from the —

CHRIS BLEDSOE: All the dogs are gone.

AJ GENTILE: Okay.

The Vision of the Beautiful Woman

CHRIS BLEDSOE: This is five years later. And the minute I closed that door, I felt this blast of air. This wind just hit me — like physical wind. And it wasn’t the trees, it wasn’t the wind like you’d normally feel. It was concentrated. It was in front of me. It was almost like somebody blasted me with an air blower, caught me off balance and pushed me over backwards.

So I fell to my back in the leaves, right where all this had happened with the dog back in 2007. And as I’m falling backwards, I see what was coming at me out of this blackness. This hole opens up, and out comes this bull. Like a huge cow, runs right over me. And I could see through it. It was translucent. I could see the stars up in it. And it was just so quick and so powerful. It scared me because of the force from the wind and this thing. I grew up on a farm. My neighbor had a dairy farm, had cows. We had pigs.

But the minute it went over, I landed on my back and rolled to my stomach. So now I’m facing behind me, and I’m getting up to run, all at the same time. And when I do, there’s no longer a cow there. About six to eight feet from me, floating, is this most beautiful woman from heaven. That’s all I could say. You would think it’s an angel, or whatever it is.

And she looks at me, and she leans towards me, and she says, “You know why I’m here.” And I knew why, because it was hard for me to fuss at God and whatever it was. I still try not to label this, because we really don’t know. And it’s up to everybody to experience it and figure it out on their own.

But she said, “You know why I’m here. You’re not going to quit. This is your burden you have to bear. And if you’ll continue to do this, I promise you, I’ll be with you and I will help you. And on top of that, I’ll allow you to film my presence and let you share us with others.”

Before, I couldn’t film it. That’s one of the things that made me so angry. I’d go out and there’s an orb hovering 100 feet over the house. A golden orb. I’d pull my camera out and it says, “Memory Card Error.” Camera doesn’t work anymore. Or every time it would appear, when I’d get the camera out, it’d disappear. They wouldn’t let me film it.

So right after that, I started amassing a database. I never had any information before. But now I’ve got a lot.

Hathor: The Divine Feminine

AJ GENTILE: Chris, you mentioned that you were shown Hathor’s temple. I don’t know if you know this, but she’s the goddess of maternity and motherhood. And according to ancient Egypt, she is the sky. She came before everything.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Sophia.

AJ GENTILE: Yes. Which I think in Greek is wisdom. And Hathor is depicted as a cow in ancient Egypt. And whenever she’s depicted as a human, she always has horns.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Well, she told me that because I asked who she was, and she said she had many names. She said she was called Hathor in Egypt. And that resonated with me because the first thing they showed me was Egypt, right? And I saw the faces of Hathor carved in the temples. It’s like cow ears and such.

AJ GENTILE: Yes.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: And so immediately that resonated. But she said she had many names — names in many countries, many cultures. From Diana to Demeter to Hera to the White Buffalo Calf Woman of the American Southwest.

AJ GENTILE: American Southwest. Hinduism, Buddhism, Lakshmi. Could it be Mary? Could it be?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Well, I suppose it could be. But in my research, I know that the word “spirit” — the definition of a spirit — nobody really understands that. But it’s the wind, right? And the Holy Spirit is the breath of God. The most impactful thing to me was not only seeing and hearing, but the wind that pushed me over. The cow running over me — I saw it — but the wind, physically, it frightened me. It hit me so hard.

So here there’s this force that came at me, only to reveal itself as the most beautiful woman I had ever seen. I went from extreme fear to, “Oh my God, what am I looking at?” She’s allowed me to share her presence, or the orbs, with everyone.

Thousands of Witnesses

AJ GENTILE: Yes, she has. All those men that were on that trip with you, that fishing trip, have all come forward and corroborated your story. Your son has said it happened. I think orb sightings in your presence are now numbering in the thousands. Hundreds of people have seen them.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Thousands.

AJ GENTILE: Thousands of people?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah. I’ve had a thousand at one time.

Healing and the Return of the Mission

AJ GENTILE: So now I don’t know what to call her — the divine feminine, or whatever. Now you’re back on your mission. So take us back through Crohn’s disease, which is a very difficult disease with no cure.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Horrible.

AJ GENTILE: And you were cured of that?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: It’s gone. I went to Chapel Hill. A doctor sent me to Chapel Hill to find out where it had gone, if the markers were still there. And there are no markers.

AJ GENTILE: When were you cured?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I was cured in 2007. In 2009, I came down with rheumatoid arthritis. It didn’t get too bad, but I know the rheumatoid came on from the stress during those five years. I’m in remission now. It did a lot of damage. But even the rheumatoid doctor said — and even Gary Nolan told me — that it was probably a reprieve from the Crohn’s, and it came back as RA.

AJ GENTILE: Could be.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I went to Chapel Hill. I have the paper. I’ll share it with you. It says there’s absolutely no marker there. It did not move from one to the other.

AJ GENTILE: I believe you. So yes, this healing ability you have, unbelievably, you have shared with others.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah.

Summoned to the White House

AJ GENTILE: Can you talk a little bit about that? Because when I say share with others, I don’t mean a boy in your neighborhood. I mean you’ve been summoned to the White House and —

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, well, that was part of what she granted when she came in 2012.

AJ GENTILE: Did it start with Nellie?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: It started with my dog Nellie. Yeah. And believe it or not, she came back in 2013. It didn’t happen the first year in 2012. In 2013, she came back and she told me about the situation with Iran and Israel. So it was 2013 when I first got that information. And that’s the year that I was asked to put it right into the Pentagon.

AJ GENTILE: What did she say about Iran and Israel?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: She said, “When you see Israel and Iran begin to exchange missiles” — and I saw them in a vision, they give you telepathic images, it’s like looking at a television, really — she said, “When you see these happen, that’s when we’re going to come in and we’re going to start waking up the population. We’re going to reveal ourselves, which will change the consciousness of people.”

So all this is about disclosure, it’s about consciousness. And they’re going to make it happen because it opens us up, it turns us into psychic beings, it gives us power. A lot of things this does.

AJ GENTILE: All right, we’ll get back to that in a little bit. Can you just start with Nellie? It’s such a touching story.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: So this is how it went down, 2013.

Grant Cameron’s Visit and the Burning Tree

AJ GENTILE: And there are pictures of all of this.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, there’s witnesses, a lot of witnesses. So 2013, Easter. She comes two weeks later, two weeks after Easter. This journalist, UFO researcher out of Canada — good friend of mine, a guy I really have a lot of liking for — is Grant Cameron. Grant is on the way from Congress. They were doing this mock Congress thing in Washington. And he calls me, says, “I’m going to Florida to do an event down there and would love to stop on the way and visit you.” I said, “Why don’t you come stay the night?” He says, “Okay,” comes, he stays two days. He goes to Florida. He calls me on the way back and he’s like, “Man, can I just stop back by? I’d like to at least take pictures of the burning tree. I didn’t get to do that while I was there.”

AJ GENTILE: The burning tree.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, that’s something else that happened right after the lady came. I’ll show you this. I have the video of it.

AJ GENTILE: There’s so many biblical connections to the story.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, true story. We have it on video. And I’ll get back to Grant and Nellie. So in October 2012 — because Grant came in 2013 — right after the lady came in April, here it is October. It had been raining for two days. My wife and I and children were living next to my dad on a six-acre property, about 600 feet deep and probably 500 feet wide or something like that.

I was a smoker then. That’s when I quit smoking. I quit smoking October 2012, after the lady came. After seeing what I saw, I wouldn’t want to smoke anymore.

AJ GENTILE: Good idea.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: So we were watching TV, my wife and I. I said, “I got to smoke.” So I paused the movie we were watching on the cable box. I walked out the back door, lit up a cigarette. I’m on the back patio — it’s a concrete patio. The wife says, “I’ll be out in a minute.”

She’s walking by the back door, which is a full glass door. She looks out at me through the glass and sees, way back in the back of the property, this tree. What looked like somebody lit a couple of bottle rockets off from the ground, and they shot up. She sees that and says, “What?” She opened the door and said, “What’s going on with that tree?” I said, “I have no idea. But I saw that too.”

And then all of a sudden, sparks would poof out three feet and they would just kind of do like fireworks, it looked like. Then suddenly, poof — this thing erupted into flames. It’s burning 12 feet in the air, from the inside of the tree, shooting up through the tops. She freaks out: “Oh my God, how did this happen?”

We run out, and Ryan, my son, he takes his iPad — he’s got it in his hand — and he starts filming. This tree just spontaneously combusted in our backyard. So I run a hose pipe all the way out there, give it to my wife, and she puts it up in the tree, inside of it, and sprays it all and puts it out.

It messed her up so bad she couldn’t sleep. I think that was at 9:30. At 12 o’clock, she walks by the back door and looks — and it’s burning again.

AJ GENTILE: It’s burning again.

The Dog That Was Healed

CHRIS BLEDSOE: So we go out and we put it out the second time. At 3 AM she can’t sleep, she goes by the door — there it is, burning again. So she puts it out the third time. 9, 12, and 3.

So Grant is there wanting to see this tree. I have a video — I’ll share that Burning Tree video. It’s under my name, Chris Bledsoe. “Burning Tree.” You can look that up on YouTube. It’s been there since way back then. And that tree became very famous. A lot of people would bring articles of clothing and put them in the tree, and healings would happen and stuff.

So April 2013, Grant Cameron comes two weeks after Easter, and we walk out to the tree. We look at the tree and stand around it for 20 minutes conversating. He’s got his camera all in it and around it. And my Black Labrador Nellie is laying beside us — she would just walk wherever we laid down. So she’d been with us the whole time.

Grant’s like, “Okay, I’m done.” So we start back — 75 yards from back there to the back door of the house. All my kids are standing on the patio. They have friends there. Grant’s got his camera in his hand. He’s been filming the tree. And Nellie and Grant and I walk right up to the patio, stop short of the patio. I’m standing on the dirt. He’s standing on the patio between me and the house. He was looking at me. I’m looking at the house. Nellie’s laying here beside us.

I said, “Grant, if you want, I’ll get the kids to get your bags out of the car and you can just stay the night with us.” He’s like, “Oh, that’d be fabulous.” So immediately he turns his back to me and starts toward the door.

The back door is open — we live in the country. I’d leave the doors open that time of year, windows and all. And so Nellie takes off to beat us in the door. You know how a dog would do that — they try to cut you and get in front of you. But when she did, I saw her go by and blood shoot out of her neck, right outside of her neck. A long stream of blood went down Grant’s pants. There’s a string of blood going right on into the back of the house.

I ran in the door, and I tackled her on the floor. It’s LVP plank flooring, you know — it’s real slippery.

AJ GENTILE: Yep.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Especially with blood. I tackle her and I drag her back out of the house. She’s about 80 pounds, and me with rheumatoid arthritis — it was adrenaline that kicked in. So I drag her out and I lay her on the patio. We’re all looking, and Grant’s down there with the camera. She’s got a hole in her neck this long, right across her vein. We don’t know how it got there.

My friend at NASA — the Dragon — he suggested maybe I should look into healing, because maybe the phenomenon is trying to tell me something. I didn’t think about it at the time, but that’s what happened.

Here’s how it went. She’s laying there bleeding to death. I got my hand on her neck and blood’s coming up through my fingers. Every time her heart would beat, blood would shoot out. It’s all over the floor, the patio, and Grant’s pants. I knew at that moment she wasn’t going to live, because we were 30 minutes from a vet out in the country. She was going to bleed to death before I even got her in the car. There was just that much blood.

And so I just kind of — I can remember blocking everyone out. I didn’t realize who was standing there at that moment. I just looked up at heaven. I said, “Lord, you got to help her. She’s going to die.”

And the minute I said it, I felt her struggle. She went limp. The picture — I’ll share it with you — but it has her laying there completely still. Didn’t even wiggle. It went on for a while, to where I had Chris Jr. go get a rag. I thought maybe we could put pressure on it and help stop the bleeding. So he went in and got a washcloth.

Everybody sees what’s happening. But the minute I said the prayer and she went limp, I lifted the washcloth over her neck — and the hole disappeared. It was gone. She just stood up, wagged her tail, and walked away like nothing happened. Grant saw it. He documented it. He wrote a paper on it, an article or two.

And so I told that to my NASA friends, and I told it to someone. After the lady came, a whole lot of people started showing up.

First Government Contact

AJ GENTILE: Well, when did the government first —

CHRIS BLEDSOE: 2008.

AJ GENTILE: How did they find you? Did you report what happened?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I reported it. Well, let’s just say in 2007 is when it happened.

AJ GENTILE: Right.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: In January, under my wife’s wishes not to ever talk about it anymore — because it was interrupting the children and the schedule — I decided I wouldn’t talk about it and try to help. But I’m Richard Dreyfuss, right? I’ve got to talk about it.

AJ GENTILE: You have to.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: And so I went in agony. I went into depression and slept in my little office for 10 months. I went and talked to my wife. I was so upset, felt restricted. But I understood her position with the kids. I had so much anxiety, and I just had to talk to somebody.

So I went on the computer and found this outfit called MUFON and saw, “Report your sighting.” So I wrote it up, and I didn’t hit send because I knew if I did, I might lose my family. So for two weeks, I looked at it in agony. I finally hit the button.

The very next day, I get a call out of California from a guy named Jim Dimanchi, I think his name was. And he’s like, “Man, we want to come visit. We want to investigate.” I’m like, “Hold on. I just wanted to tell somebody. I don’t want y’all here. This is going to cause me a problem.” So I said, “No, thank you.”

So January comes along — this is October — they’re calling me every week. MUFON’s calling, yeah, every week. And January comes, they called me and said, “We’re going to officially close the case if you don’t want to talk about it.” They’d already opened the case file. I said, “Well, okay, I’ll talk about it.”

So within a week — by February of 2008 — I allowed them to come in. So it happened in January of 2007. So I’m in February of 2008, a year and a month later.

AJ GENTILE: Right.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: And we — shoot, I forgot where I was going with that.

AJ GENTILE: How the government first —

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah. So when I reported it, Jim Semivan told me that he knew the very minute that I reported it.

AJ GENTILE: Because some would say MUFON and the government have a little bit of —

MUFON and the Government

CHRIS BLEDSOE: — the same data-gathering apparatus. That’s all they do — they gather data, and they use volunteer people to do it. You get a sighting, they ask you, “Hey, A.J., since you had that sighting, you want to become an investigator for MUFON?” And it’s exciting, right? And they can tell if you’re like Richard Dreyfuss — you’ll fall for it every time. They tried to give me a training manual.

But here’s what happened next, and it was terrible. This is February 2008. By March, they had six or seven investigators at my house all the time. And they were convincing me to do a documentary on Discovery. “We’re going to vindicate you.” This was a month, two months after I met them, and they already had it in place. By June, they had the whole thing shot.

I was determined to prove myself — that I saw this, it really happened. And the community said, “No, it didn’t. You’re dealing with the devil.” Long story short, it backfired.

AJ GENTILE: Yes, it did. MUFON did a hit job on you. And what everyone points to is that you didn’t pass the lie detector test — which, on my channel, I tell everybody that those things do not work.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Right, right.

AJ GENTILE: But what’s not emphasized is you passed a psychiatric exam.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Perfectly.

AJ GENTILE: Perfectly sane man.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yep. And the lie detector was a farce. They gave me 34 questions. You’re only supposed to have three or four questions.

AJ GENTILE: Right.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: But they asked me 34, over and over, for two hours. And it was an abusive thing. The whole thing was abuse.

They came in and filmed this show — and I write about this in the book — where my little children were so excited. “Hollywood’s coming!” My daughter’s 10, 11 years old. Here they come, and they’ve got this assistant going around — a lot like your staff — working to support the production. They come and they take my kids’ orders for dinner. They’re going to send out for dinner. We were all in my house. They took my whole house over. There’s 17 people in their crew. My whole house is rearranged — couches moved, furniture moved, cameras everywhere.

They go out and get dinner, took our order. And when they got back, the kids went to the table — and they didn’t have any food for us. And the producer said, “Well, you guys weren’t in the budget.”

AJ GENTILE: Wow.

Government Connections and the Intelligence Community

CHRIS BLEDSOE: So they sat there in my house, ordered food and ate without feeding us. And I knew then I was in a mess.

AJ GENTILE: Yeah. And then went and aired a hit job on you.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah. So that’s the kind of thing that happened.

AJ GENTILE: And is that where the government—

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Well, the government, yeah. Jim said he knew immediately it was a hit job, felt sorry for me and he said he could never talk to me until he retired from CIA. But once he overtly retired, then he’s the first one I met with. This is Jim Semivan.

AJ GENTILE: Jim Semivan. Yeah. Who wrote the foreword on your book.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah.

AJ GENTILE: So this is a senior CIA official.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah.

AJ GENTILE: When did you first meet him?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I met him in 2013, right after—

AJ GENTILE: Right after the lady.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: After the healing. But the first government person I met was Dr. Hal Povenmire from NASA.

AJ GENTILE: He is a debunker.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Well, he was. He was, yeah. So they sent him to debunk my case. He’s a senior official at NASA, or a contractor with them. An engineer. Still holds a security clearance. When he died, he was 59, 60 years in. He was serious people.

But he shows up one day in the fall or summer, right after the thing aired in June or July — within a month, he knocks on my door. My son Ryan calls me. I’m in town working or something and he calls his dad. “There’s this very tall guy from NASA here at the house, wants to meet you.” I said, “NASA?” He said, “Yeah, he drove all the way from Cape Canaveral by chance to find you.” I said, “Well, tell him to hang around, I’ll be there in an hour.” So he did.

And I was terrified because I had been told by MUFON’s people in the UFO world, “They’ll kill you.”

AJ GENTILE: The Men in Black.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah. “They’re going to kill you.” And so the whole family is terrified by this giant of a man.

AJ GENTILE: A knock from the government is never good news.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Turned out he was like a family member. He stayed with our family until he died in 2019. Thanksgiving, he and Katie, his wife, were coming to visit us. He was 80 and he fell and hit his head, and he never came to after that.

AJ GENTILE: Was he the one who got you involved in the intelligence community?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, in a way, that and Jim. But he was there in 2008 and he would come every year, two, three, four, five times a year. He’d come to my kids’ birthdays, he’d come to my daughter’s recitals.

And he told me — he told everybody — “You know, that’s what I did. I debunked everything. I was the one that did that.” He said, “But I have to tell you, I could not ever debunk you.” He said, “I found eight witnesses in Gray’s Creek where this thing happened on the river.” MUFON didn’t go out and look — he went and put in the effort. He went to the airport, he checked behind me, he checked my building records, he checked everything. And he could never debunk it.

Right before he died, he said, “Chris, I know about everything there is to know about this. I’ve been there a long time and I’ve always wondered — is it spiritual or is it alien? We all suspect one or the other, but we’re not sure.” He said, “But now I know. I know now it’s about God.” And that’s what a NASA official told me.

The Government’s Interest in the Phenomenon

AJ GENTILE: Well, at this point — meaning present day — you’ve had CIA, DOD, DIA, all of them.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah. Senior leaders, not some low-level people.

AJ GENTILE: What is their interest in this phenomenon?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: This is as much of an interest — it’s more of an interest to the government than to us. They’re people like us, and they want to know what it is. But they also want to know the technology and how to defend against it.

AJ GENTILE: Yeah. So there’s the human curiosity about the spiritual aspect, but there’s also fear that there’s technology they can’t defend against.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, because they don’t know. Most people are conditioned to believe alien things are alien — that it’s coming from the Pleiades or this or that.

AJ GENTILE: And you don’t believe that.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I think it lives right beside us. All the time it’s around us, it knows your thoughts. I know this. I can demonstrate it at any time with groups of people.

AJ GENTILE: I believe you.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: It’s there.

AJ GENTILE: This is maybe out there, but — what if there’s life on other planets? Does this energy exist infinitely?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, I think so. I was concerned about the triangle. I asked people in the government — the Dragon and others — “What does that triangle mean?”

AJ GENTILE: The Dragon, by the way, is Tim Taylor, who’s a very elusive figure. And he seems like he could swipe his card and get anywhere.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: The White House, or any king or queen — it doesn’t matter. The Vatican. Walk right into the basement of the Vatican, the archives. I know somebody else who can too.

AJ GENTILE: Well, who’s that?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: That’s a friend out of Washington.

AJ GENTILE: You don’t want to name him?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: No, you probably wouldn’t want me to do that.

The Vatican’s Interest

AJ GENTILE: So the Vatican is interested in this as well.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Oh, yeah.

AJ GENTILE: Have they been in touch with you?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: They have, through several people, yeah.

AJ GENTILE: What is the Vatican’s take on this?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: To them, what I’m seeing is the Virgin Mary.

AJ GENTILE: Right.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: And go to Fatima — what do they see? Orbs.

AJ GENTILE: They saw orbs.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Mostly orbs. Sometimes they get the full apparition, but a lot of times at these holy sites they see the orbs.

AJ GENTILE: And I think the Catholic Church has now acknowledged UFOs — I could be wrong. But haven’t they revealed at this point the three secrets of Fatima, which were hell, war, and the end of religion? The third secret involved a white bishop being murdered on a mountain. So were you ever shown — we talked earlier about the two timelines, and how we’re at an inflection point where we can choose as a species. We can go down a dark path of evil, or we can go down the light path of enlightenment. Where are we headed?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Well, I think we’re heading to the light.

AJ GENTILE: I hope you’re right. But were you ever shown—

CHRIS BLEDSOE: What?

AJ GENTILE: Were you ever shown the other side?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah.

AJ GENTILE: Did you tell us?

The Vision: Two Timelines

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Well, yeah. I saw it in the first four hours when I was gone. Remember the four hours? I started to hit on this earlier.

AJ GENTILE: Yep.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: They showed me Hathor’s temple. They showed me the pyramids. They showed me Egypt as a whole.

AJ GENTILE: The same—

CHRIS BLEDSOE: The Sphinx was the biggest thing. Three pyramids. I’m looking over the pyramids at the rear end of the Sphinx — that’s the position we were in. Then they transport me up over the United States, somewhere up over the Midwest. We were way up high, and we were looking, and they’re talking, they’re narrating these things. And all of a sudden I see the sun swell up in the sky. It got real big, to where the whole sky became the sun. And then it flashed, and the lights went out. And I knew then — that was the reset mechanism. And they told me, “This is what we’re in for.”

AJ GENTILE: Is this a solar flare, or is this something worse?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Supernova.

AJ GENTILE: Oh, no. That’s the end of everything, man.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah.

AJ GENTILE: So that’s not the lights going out — that’s everything out.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Right. And that’s how the tektites got here. Scientists try to say, “Oh, that can’t be a supernova.” Well, yeah, it can. It’s happened before, and we know it has, because I’ve studied with Dr. Povenmire, who was the world’s expert on tektites.

AJ GENTILE: Yeah, he was.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: And how did they get made? They come through a supernova. It didn’t come from a solar flare — it came from a supernova. He told me that. And we know that, and that it can happen again.

So the way they explained it was we had two timelines. We had a choice. They said that there were people in power scripting the Book of Revelation to bring about the end of the world. They want to do this — these religious extremists, I guess you would call them. I don’t know why they’d want to do that.

AJ GENTILE: I think it’s a shadow government. And that’s why they’re building bunkers. All of that is because they’re trying to engineer the end of the world.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah. And that’s what she told me — that’s what the beings told me. They were trying to bring about the end of the world. And if we go that route, it would end up in Armageddon. Like the Bible says, Jesus comes back and saves the world. That’s what I was talking about with Sean Ryan — that timeline.

But the other timeline they said was that the reset didn’t have to happen if we made the choice to seek the light and remove the darkness. And that they were going to help — and that’s by waking us up.

AJ GENTILE: And does that lead us into the 2026 event?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: 2026 into a time of awakening, not war.

The Prediction of the Lady

AJ GENTILE: And you have been called — I know you don’t like the word “prophet.”

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Right.

AJ GENTILE: So let’s just call it a prediction. What was the prediction that the Lady made?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Well, what she told me was — it was a riddle in a way. She said, “When the red star of Regulus—” Now, keep in mind, I don’t know anything about astronomy. I don’t know what Regulus is. She just put these words out. She said, “When the red star Regulus aligns in the gaze of the Sphinx.” And she showed it to me — it looked like a little red ball. Now, Regulus is blue.

AJ GENTILE: Is blue.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: But she said it would appear red on the horizon just before dawn. When that happens, that point would mark a shift into a new knowledge and awakening of the people. It doesn’t mean you’re going to flip a switch and we all suddenly know that day. I think it’s just the beginning of a new era, a new knowledge. And maybe that’s the revealing of the truth of consciousness.

AJ GENTILE: And this will be the Sphinx gazing at Regulus.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah.

AJ GENTILE: Do you know what constellation Regulus is in?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: It’s in Leo.

AJ GENTILE: It’s in Leo.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Isn’t that crazy?

AJ GENTILE: It is.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Why does the Space Force have on their badge a triangle with a Sphinx looking up at a star?

AJ GENTILE: That’s funny that you mentioned that. If you look at a lot of the logos — whether it’s the NRO or all these agencies — there’s all this Egyptian iconography on them.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah.

AJ GENTILE: It makes me think they know something we don’t know.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Oh, they do.

AJ GENTILE: They do.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: They do. I can tell you they do.

AJ GENTILE: What do they know, and why won’t they tell us?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I wish I could tell you. There is something I do know. But let’s just say — without me getting in really serious trouble—

AJ GENTILE: Are you under any NDA? You’re not. So you can speak freely.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I can, but I might cut myself off from a stream of information.

Disclosure, Orbs, and the Nature of Consciousness

AJ GENTILE: As the legal counsel, I would advise you to be careful here.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, that’s what I’m doing. But I do know that they’ve documented things over the last several hundred years.

AJ GENTILE: Several hundred years?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Ever since they started keeping records in the US and abroad. Over hundreds of years. Thousands of years. Two thousand or more. The specific thing I’m speaking about.

AJ GENTILE: Well, we can see orbs in paintings that are hundreds of years old.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: And it’s like this — the Gelder painting of Jesus being baptized by John the Baptist. There’s a cloud up there and it looks like a flying saucer with laser beams.

AJ GENTILE: Yes, it does.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: How did they know to draw laser beams in the 1300s? They didn’t have a flashlight. So yeah, there’s a whole lot of knowledge we don’t have. This hidden knowledge.

AJ GENTILE: Do you think disclosure is happening now?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: We’re in post-disclosure.

AJ GENTILE: You think it’s just—

CHRIS BLEDSOE: It’s already happened. It’s happening one person at a time.

AJ GENTILE: Because I’m very suspicious of what we’re being told. I don’t know what’s true and what’s not true. So I don’t know if this is planned disclosure, and if it is, I don’t like that.

The Orbs, Iran, and Government Confusion

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Well, they’re planning it. They’re definitely planning it, and they’ve turned up the notch 100%. Partly because when the drone thing happened — and they weren’t drones, they were not drones at all, and we know that — they were orbs. It’s the very thing I predicted. I didn’t predict it, I just told what I was told: that when Iran and Israel go to exchanging missiles, the orbs would start appearing out of the sea, out of the land, out of the sky. They were firing at one another in November. And what happened in November and December? Orbs appeared everywhere.

So the government freaked out and they started sending their own drones up — big ones — and leaving them for days hanging around. All that was done to confuse the people.

AJ GENTILE: So you’re a pilot. I’ve been shown by another pilot a NOTAM report that showed in advance all these areas where drones would be. But the government never told us that. They never said, “Relax, we’ve got it, it’s us.” They kept us confused and frightened. What would be the purpose of that? Why frighten the population?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I’ll tell you why. I was sitting in a restaurant with some people from the Pentagon and some Congress members and others at the Capitol Grille in Washington D.C. this past summer. After that happened — the thing happened in November and December — but this past summer, or spring, not too far after that, we were meeting and they wanted to know my opinion about this.

I said, “I told you — you start shooting missiles with Iran, you’re going to get it.” And they’re like, “Oh my God, this is catastrophic.” So that term was coined with me sitting at a meeting with these people. They don’t want that to happen. They don’t want to lose control of the people. They’re afraid if they push the button too far, it’s going to come down here and wake us all up and take over. They worry about what’s going to happen.

AJ GENTILE: And then they lose their power, their control.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Continuity of government.

AJ GENTILE: Continuity of government. So this all points back to the DOD and the Pentagon.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: That’s exactly what’s going on. So they backed off of Iran, they quit shooting at one another, the whole thing settled down. But it didn’t stop. The minute we put F-35s in Poland—

AJ GENTILE: Yep.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: They started shutting down airports over there. The orbs did — not drones, the orbs did.

AJ GENTILE: If there were a nuclear war, do you think these orbs would stop it? Because we know that they have shut down nuclear facilities.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: They told them, “You keep pushing these buttons, we’re going to expose you, we’re going to stop it.” They keep warning them.

What Are the Orbs?

AJ GENTILE: Are the orbs themselves craft, or are they beings?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Both. They’re both. I say both because I have video of beings coming out of orbs. I’ll show you one today where this orb approaches myself and two or three ladies — one very sick with cancer. It approaches right up to us, flashes, and out steps a seven-foot-tall glowing white figure. These smaller orbs are beings. When they flash, something just stepped out of it. So I think it’s a way they can come into our world through that light.

But I have also seen and filmed many others — flying saucers, metal balls like the Tic Tac, the Bouguer sphere.

AJ GENTILE: We will put all that footage in this episode because it’s all there. It’s really undebunkable. When I see debunkers try to say that these are airplanes, I just don’t get it, because I’ve seen the video of it happen in real time where an orb will appear and disappear.

And there are places around the world — I think it’s the Hessdalen lights, the Marfa lights, and the Brown Mountain lights. Are these orbs as well?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, that’s what they are.

AJ GENTILE: Where did they come from? Where did this start?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: They’re here. They’re around us all the time. We just can’t see them. As for the beginning — whoever created consciousness — I look at this a little differently than a lot of people do, and I’m slowly creating a hypothesis. We may not ever know.

AJ GENTILE: I’m wondering where the origin of these things was.

Angels, God, and Consciousness

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Well, to put it in my own way — and this is somewhat biblical — what are angels? What are they? The Bible says they’re messengers. That doesn’t mean grandma with wings. Everybody has a misconception about this. Angelic experiences are terrifying. Even Diana told me — every angelic experience is terrifying because they’re creatures, they’re different than us. A lot different. They can come any way they want to come.

It’s a tough question, but I think they’re fractals of God or consciousness. The word “God” and “consciousness” are the same thing. And I’ve had the greatest time watching all these scientists who are atheists saying, “We’re studying consciousness.” Well, you’re studying God. This is a great thing — we’re studying consciousness, which is what God is. It’s everything.

AJ GENTILE: It’s everything. Whether you call it God or the universe, or whatever you call it—

CHRIS BLEDSOE: It’s the source. Who programmed this world we live in? It was all written in code, it was all pre-written. Somebody programmed this thing that we’re living in. It’s all programmed.

AJ GENTILE: This is a simulation.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, it’s a simulation.

AJ GENTILE: So if our souls are spun out of the source, and these orbs are spun out of the source, what’s the difference?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: It’s a fractal of God. In other words, how can 8 billion people pray and have a personal experience with God at the same time?

AJ GENTILE: We’re all connected.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: It’s all connected. So these orbs are just a little piece of that — an intelligent piece of God responding to you and me. And that’s where Jesus said, “The kingdom of heaven is within us.” And, “If you had the faith of a mustard seed, you could tell that mountain to move and it would.” So what is he telling us there? They didn’t like what he was saying, so they killed him.

AJ GENTILE: Yeah, that’s right.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: But I think that we’re magical beings with humongous power.

Summoning Orbs — and Why That Word Is Wrong

AJ GENTILE: Do you think we can all do what you do?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, 100%.

AJ GENTILE: How do you do what you do? Because you can summon orbs at will.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I don’t call it summoning, because that is kind of a dark term. You don’t summon these things.

AJ GENTILE: Okay.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: It’s like ordering God what to do. People say summoning is evil — well, they may be summoning something evil. Stay away from that word, because it’s not about summoning.

AJ GENTILE: That’s in the Bible as well.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: When you talk about summoning — these guys doing psionic summoning — they don’t know what they’re getting. They’re liable to get trouble, really get some bad stuff, because it’s out there too.

But I humble myself and I say a little prayer. It’s a short one. It’s just asking the Holy Spirit — whom I believe is the lady — to come share her presence with us. That’s all I do, nothing else. In front of a thousand people, I had a little church service with Gino. He was standing there. The most liberal UFO place you could go to, and I just had a little church for about two minutes.

AJ GENTILE: 300 people saw orbs — or was it a thousand — that appeared when you prayed?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, I just asked a little prayer. I said, “Look, the lady I met — I believe she is a divine being. She was made of light. She was floating. She came at me like the wind spirit. Could it be the Holy Spirit? I don’t know.” But that’s where I believe. It’s okay — we all imagine God in our own way.

The problem we have in this world is that brother Tom over there wants to kill me because I don’t think like him.

AJ GENTILE: I know.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: “Kill you because you’re blaspheming.” Well, who knows? How do you know?

AJ GENTILE: How do you know?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Right. So that’s the problem. We’ve got to come to understand that this whole thing is not within our imagination. Why try to own it, and name it, and kill people, and have wars over something you have no idea how complex and how mysterious it truly is?

AJ GENTILE: We’re living in it in two dimensions. The world is much more complicated.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, it’s real complex.

The Dark Force and Earth’s Energy Grid

AJ GENTILE: You said something earlier that kind of frightened me — that this energy is here, it’s a positive energy, it’s a good energy, it’s a protective energy. What’s it protecting us from?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: The dark force.

AJ GENTILE: Oh boy.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: There is a dark force. Let me say something that gives a little context for where I believe this comes from. I learned this through Dr. Robert Gilbert. He explained something to me about Egypt. He said, “You know what they dig out of the ground in Egypt the most, of all the artifacts they dig up over there?” Pendulums. They get thousands of them out of the soil there. Dr. Gilbert sold a whole kit of different kinds and taught people to use them. The Freemasons, the Templars, and others — people with the old knowledge — they use them.

What the Egyptians knew, and what Robert explained, is that the Earth has these grid lines. They’re very close together in some places, further apart in others where they’re stretched. It’s like a tic-tac-toe pattern.

AJ GENTILE: Some call them ley lines.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah. They’re abundant, they’re all over the whole world. It’s just energy traveling north and south and back and forth.

AJ GENTILE: That’s fine.

Energy Lines, Ancient Structures, and the Moon

CHRIS BLEDSOE: He said, those energy lines, some are negative and some are positive. And there are beings running up and down these energy lines, constantly moving back and forth. And if one of those negative lines happened to run through your house to a bedroom where your child slept, that child could develop very bad problems, sickness, die from it, from this constant negative energy and these evil spirits that are in that.

So they took pendulums and they would find these negative lines, they would transmute them up off the surface to clear the area, only leave the positive lines. And then they put these obelisks out there. Those things are tuned — these stones are tuned by somebody that we can’t replicate. Why is there one in Central Park from Egypt? Why is there one in Paris from Egypt? London. They went to Egypt and got them and brought them back.

AJ GENTILE: They’re tuned to sound frequencies.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: They transmute this negative energy. And that’s why all these cities are so big and all the biggest cities have them. And the pyramids were part of that. I think they were tone generators, peaking this frequency to transmute the darkness.

AJ GENTILE: It’s been proven that if you send the right frequencies toward the Great Pyramid, it will amplify it and turn into an energy amplifier.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: So I think the water underneath them and the salt that they find in them was creating this frequency, pinging constantly.

AJ GENTILE: I hate to plug my episode, but we do have an episode about the pyramid as a power plant, as a power generator. And there’s evidence of it — chemical reactions and hydrogen. And it’s all based around sound and music.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: There’s a belief that the pyramids were defaced by the Europeans. They were there before Jesus, five or six hundred years. The Greeks were there. But I’ve heard through Robert that the pyramids used to have musical notes all over them and that somebody stripped that all off.

AJ GENTILE: I haven’t heard that.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I’d heard that before.

AJ GENTILE: So if there are negative energy lines, is there also a negative energy source? Like we have our source.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Everything is. The Earth is a dynamo. The sun shining on the Earth creates the energy and you can see it in the aurora. That’s all electricity. So it’s an electrical machine. And we’re all part of that electrical energy from the sun. So this negative energy is like a battery. Everything works on a positive and a negative pole. Same way on Earth — you have positive and negative poles, and you have a battery that cranks a car. Yin and yang, it’s all the same.

AJ GENTILE: Okay, that makes sense to me.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Good and evil, light and dark.

What Happens When We Die?

AJ GENTILE: What happens when we die, Chris?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: In my Christian world, they preach about — and I’m still a Christian. I love. I was born and raised on Jesus and always will be.

AJ GENTILE: I don’t think anything you said today contradicts religion.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: But I believe a little differently. I don’t think that we know enough to demand that when you die, you go to a heaven that’s out somewhere far away. I think it’s right here around us. And I think we can come back here.

AJ GENTILE: When people ask, like I did, “What do you think happens when we die?” — I’m asking out of fear. Are you afraid?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: No, I’m not afraid at all. And I think that we’re friends now and we’ll be friends forever, this life and the next. I believe there’s a possibility in reincarnation as well.

AJ GENTILE: I agree with that.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah.

AJ GENTILE: I want us to take one more break. If you wouldn’t mind coming back for one last segment.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I’d love to.

AJ GENTILE: All right, let’s take a break.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I’m having fun.

AJ GENTILE: Having fun. When we come back, I’d like to talk about remote viewing, the Memorial Institute, some of that.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Okay, back in a sec.

Tim Taylor — The Dragon

AJ GENTILE: Tell me about the Dragon. Tim Taylor — the most elusive man in intel and ufology. How did you meet him and what’s your relationship with him?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Tim is the most elusive. He’s a ghost. I like to say that about him. He’s a ghost because of his work. He’s pretty much in charge of all the launches at the launch facility.

AJ GENTILE: So NASA?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, NASA, SpaceX, all of them. NASA runs the launch facility, but they all use it — they rent it.

AJ GENTILE: And I think it’s public knowledge that he consults with Elon Musk. So he’s involved.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: So imagine — from what I know — the National Reconnaissance Office has eyes on everything. They have the satellites, they’re running all the observation and reconnaissance. And if you took mission control, with Tim being the Dragon, he’s the head of that, he’s in charge.

So he has mission control. Let’s just say there’s a square building — it looks like a mobile home that’s been put together, a big double quadruple-wide mobile home, little metal tin on the outside. There’s one hallway in the middle, and it’s identical on the left and the right. It’s a pretty long hallway.

On the right when you walk down the hall, you get past the offices and then there’s this big glass wall. You look over through the glass wall — it’s kind of depressed in there — and there are all these consoles, people standing there running the launch. The screen on the left is exactly the same, but it’s U.S. Air Force people. So over there you’ve got fatigues on, camouflage, and they’re in there running a launch, while the NASA people are on the right.

At the end of the hall is where the general is and where Tim’s little office is. He goes in after the launch goes up, and he has these television screens — only for him to see. And he’s communicating with the team that’s flying.

An old friend of mine — he died a couple of years ago — his name was Peter Chobon. Peter from Houston. I write about him in my book. I love Peter. He was an old Texan. Peter ran the WB-57 program out of Houston, which uses these big high-flying planes — almost like a U-2 spy plane, but bigger — that loiter up there at 50,000 feet.

So the ground-based cameras are looking at the rocket when it takes off. It starts getting blurry up that high. This plane intercepts it and follows it right on up, keeping its cameras on it until it gets to about 100,000 feet. That’s when another plane — the F-104 Starfighter, equipped with rockets and flown by pilots in spacesuits — flies way up there and keeps tailing the rocket. There are like seven cameras on that plane following it. Once it gets past its range, it goes into the satellites.

So what are they looking for? Two or three things. The big thing is mechanical failure — if something goes wrong, they need to know how to fix it. But why is the Dragon in that one office?

AJ GENTILE: Right.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Because often these UFOs — flying saucers, orbs — will approach these rockets in space and investigate. And I have seen videos of them shooting them out of the sky or disabling them.

AJ GENTILE: Yeah.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: And I’m like, “Why did they do that? Did they have weapons on that thing?” He said, well, there was a mock nuclear warhead on there. It wasn’t active. But they still wouldn’t accept it.

AJ GENTILE: You can find that illustration online. I think it talks about a craft flying around a warhead, beaming light at it.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I saw that video.

AJ GENTILE: Until it’s disabled. I watched it.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: That’s the one. I asked him, “Why did they do that? Was there a weapon on that thing?” And that told me all I needed to know. Because they’re protecting — they don’t want us up there blowing up warheads and stuff. They don’t want weapons in space.

AJ GENTILE: What percentage of astronauts have seen them?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: All of them. Hal told my wife that one night — I’ll never forget. Before he died, he would start telling us more things he would never tell us before. He always said, “Don’t ask me that. The men in black will come get me.” I’m like, “Who are the men in black, Hal?” He said, “A bunch of CIA guys riding around in black trucks.”

AJ GENTILE: They all work for Tim Taylor.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah.

Did We Land on the Moon?

AJ GENTILE: What do you think? Do you think we landed on the moon?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I’ll tell you how confusing they are. They put out disinformation big time. They don’t necessarily tell you the truth, but they will tell you some things if you’re paying attention. A lot of things they tell you are meant to confuse.

AJ GENTILE: Limited hangout.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah. Tim told me — and I had Hal, who was my best friend. He had the David E. Lord Award for 50 years of occultation grazing — that’s the moon. He wrote books on the moon, and he was the guy who supposedly mapped where Apollo landed on the moon. So he’s telling me all about this, and that there are buildings up there that we didn’t build. Hal would tell me this stuff.

AJ GENTILE: He said there are structures up there.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: He said there are old, ancient structures, and we didn’t build them.

AJ GENTILE: So do you think that we landed men on the moon in 1969?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Well, I hear that, and then Tim tells me — he’s planting these ideas in my head. He said, “What do you think of the moon?” I’m like, I don’t know. I’ve been obsessed with it all my life. I wrote about it in the book. I was a little boy, always staring at it. He said, “You think it’s real?”

AJ GENTILE: You think the moon is real?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: That’s what he told me. He said, “You think it’s real?” I said, “Well, I think so.” He said, “Isn’t that funny?” And he gave the numbers — how far away it is, and it’s in the exact right spot, and it never changes its face, and it’s locked in.

AJ GENTILE: Tidally locked.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: And how it got there — he said, “Maybe it was towed into position.”

AJ GENTILE: There are ancient Native American legends about the sky without the moon. And when it arrived, the Earth was covered in mist, and when the moon arrived, that’s when the tides and the oceans formed.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I had no idea.

AJ GENTILE: Yeah.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Wow. That’s the kind of things these intel people do. They tell you all kinds of things. So I have to try to sift through the data and make my own thoughts. But he insinuated that it may have been pulled here.

AJ GENTILE: A moon that large and that close has never been found on any planet, ever. We’ve found thousands of planets. We are the only one with this thing.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah.

AJ GENTILE: If I had to guess, I would say we went to the moon, saw some things that maybe the government didn’t want us to see, and that’s why we didn’t go back for a while.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I think that’s probably the truth about it — that we did go there, and they were told not to come back.

Remote Viewing and Project Stargate

AJ GENTILE: They were told not to come back, most likely. So that leads me to remote viewing a little bit, because — Project Stargate.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Right.

AJ GENTILE: So Joe McMoneagle is a friend of yours?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Project Stargate. Good friend of mine, yeah.

Remote Viewing, Psychic Awakening, and the Future of Humanity

AJ GENTILE: Ingo Swann was part of that project. He saw aliens on the moon and said we’re not welcome there. He saw the structures and all of that. And earlier you mentioned that you had a vision or dream about Bigfoot on Mars, which sounds funny, but Joe remote viewed without knowing what he was looking at. He was given coordinates and he said he saw large beings on Mars. He finally opens up the card and it says it’s Mars, one million years ago. You said you can remote view, or you’ve trained in it.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, yeah. In fact, I’m on the History Channel and I’m with the Monroe Institute. I’m kind of like an ambassador for them and I promote them. I love them. My son is a trainer for them.

AJ GENTILE: We’re big fans of them here.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, and so I’m a huge supporter of them. They’ve helped me out a whole lot. But remote viewing — all of us have that capacity. Everybody. Some people, it comes easy. Some people have it all the time and don’t know what’s happening. We all have these moments where, say, you think, “I’m going to call my wife.” You pick up the phone and you start dialing, and suddenly your wife thinks about you, and then the phone rings.

AJ GENTILE: Always. We all have it.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Right? That tells you one thing — that when your wife thought of you, you thought of her. Her thoughts fly through space, and you’re able to pick up on that. So that’s what consciousness is about. It’s floating. It’s an Internet around us, and our brains are the receiver to it. I think our information is stored throughout our whole body, even in our organs. But that’s the computer, that’s the CPU that’s been shut off and doesn’t know this ability.

AJ GENTILE: What did you see when you remote viewed?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: All kinds of things. We’re given tasks to do. I’ve taken training on this stuff. I’ve been to classes with it. It depends on what the task was, whatever we’re working on. But one of the things that NASA told me a long time ago is that people who interact with these orbs become very psychic. So that’s a natural part of it. All of humanity starts experiencing this. They become very psychic. And that’s kind of alarming to the people in power. They don’t want us all becoming psychic.

AJ GENTILE: Well, imagine if all of us could communicate with, or absorb, or remote view.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: And we all can.

AJ GENTILE: And maybe that’s the awakening that you’ve been told about by the lady.

The Great Awakening and Disclosure

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I think that’s it 100%. I believe disclosure is happening. And once people, one at a time, begin to realize, “Oh my God, it’s real,” then you start awakening and you can develop these powers. And it’s happening with Dr. Diane Hennessy Powell and Dalia and Lidu, who are very close friends of mine. I’ve worked with them. We do a lot of work together. And all these wonderful kids with Kai Dickens. Kai and I were on the World Forum just during Christmas. She told me she ordered one thing for Christmas, and that was your book.

AJ GENTILE: That’s what I think.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Pretty cool, right?

AJ GENTILE: Well, let me put you on the spot then. You’ve said this before — what’s the date? What’s the date when Regulus turns red?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I don’t know that, and I’ll tell you why.

AJ GENTILE: Okay.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I was given this riddle by the lady.

AJ GENTILE: You’ve been misquoted.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, I’m misquoted all the time. I’ve got people on the Internet saying, “Chris says this,” or “Chris says that.” I’ve never said that. People say, “Chris says that the Sphinx is going to open up as Paul.”

AJ GENTILE: Right.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I never said that. Edgar Cayce said that. It’s all over the Internet. But what you say has a lot of similarities to what Edgar Cayce said about all the records and stuff.

AJ GENTILE: Yeah, yeah. Similarities.

The Regulus Alignment and Egypt

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Well, it’s all part of this progression and studying. I study everybody. I’m on a mission myself. But what I do know is when the lady told me about this many years ago — about Regulus and this star — I immediately called a literary agent friend of mine, Lisa Hagan. Lisa’s a very close friend, lives in Virginia, a book publisher. I told her we were working on a manuscript, and we were talking all the time. So I told her about this and she said, “I know a lot of people that do astrology. They write books.” I said, “Well, find out if this is going to happen, if it’s really real. I don’t know if it’s going to happen. It was just a riddle she gave me.”

So she called Kirk Nielsen, who’s part of the Edgar Cayce Research Center, among others. And they all came back to me way back then — September of 2026, this is going to take place. So for seven or eight years, that’s all I preached about. You can look at many older podcasts and I’m always saying September 2026.

When I wrote the book, I thought I better fact-check this. So I called Lisa back and I said, “Lisa, you remember this? Tell me, am I correct? Wasn’t it September?” She said, “Oh, I think we made a mistake there. They now believe it’s going to be around Easter, around April.” I thought, well, that makes sense because the lady always comes on Easter. So that’s what I went with. But I was never really sold on it — for eight or nine years that’s all I said was September. I was never sold on it other than the fact that the lady has always been associated with Easter. That’s when she comes.

But now I see that these astrologers are still unsure of when this alignment will happen. Some are saying October.

AJ GENTILE: October 7th. Yeah, October 7th, 2026 at 5:30am — it will line up with the Sphinx. And if the atmospheric conditions are correct, that blue star is going to turn red.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Well, that’s the date.

AJ GENTILE: This is scientific. Like a harvest moon, or that red dust from the Sahara — if that happens, that blue star is turning red that day. October 7, 2026.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Because I’m planning to go in the fall to Egypt. I wasn’t really set on Easter. Even though I wrote it in the book, if you read what I wrote, it was just that I’ve come to believe it.

AJ GENTILE: True.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I was never really sure when that alignment would be, and I’m totally dependent on the experts to tell me when that’ll be. And now I’m hearing October 7th. So that’s probably when I’ll be in Egypt.

AJ GENTILE: And I think it’s important for everybody to know that when and if that happens, we’re not going to see magical visions in the sky. It could be a very subtle, just a shift.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, I think it’s going to be something that comes and goes. But we’ll all realize in the next five years, “Boy, that guy really, 12 years ago, made this prediction that the orbs would appear when Israel and Egypt and all that.” Well, it all happened. I’ve been seeing it for 12 years.

And now I think it’s just going to mark a change, a new beginning. I think we’re going to learn some things between now and then that are going to shock us all. I think disclosure is going to become more real. The government’s going to reveal more things. I have a little birdie telling me that Egypt is about to release something this year that’s going to rewrite history.

AJ GENTILE: Is that right?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah. I’ve been asked to be a part of it.

AJ GENTILE: Can you share any of that?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I can’t.

AJ GENTILE: Can you tell me where in Egypt?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I just know it’s through the Egyptian government, through the Antiquities Authority.

AJ GENTILE: I don’t trust those guys.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I don’t either. But there are very credible scientists in the United States that are a part of it.

AJ GENTILE: There are. And there’s a lot happening in the Valley of the Kings right now. It could be they just discovered a new pharaoh there. It could be something out of that.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I think it’s more about what’s under the ground.

AJ GENTILE: Man. I hope we’re talking about the Hall of Records.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I don’t know. They didn’t tell me. They just told me they want me in Egypt this year and that they were going to reveal something that’s going to rewrite history.

Dorothy Eady and the Secrets Beneath the Sphinx

AJ GENTILE: There’s a story that I tell on the show about Dorothy Eady. I don’t know if that rings a bell.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Dorothy who?

AJ GENTILE: Dorothy Eady.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Eady. I don’t know her.

AJ GENTILE: She was born in England in the early 1900s. Since she was a child, she was always drawn to ancient Egypt, and her parents didn’t know why. They took her to the British Museum one day — she was four or five years old — and she went to the mummy of the pharaoh that might have been Ramses the Great. She was crying and she said, “I know him.” They gave her a book about ancient Egypt as a child, and she was able to pick up hieroglyphics. She could speak the language. She eventually went to Egypt and she knew her way around all the temples. She believed that she was reincarnated from an ancient Egyptian priestess called Amseti. And she said that underneath the Sphinx are these chambers and there’s knowledge down there. Dorothy worked with antiquities for years. They trusted her.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Oh, wow.

AJ GENTILE: So you’ve got scientific evidence with a little bit of the spiritualism of reincarnation. You’ve got Edgar Cayce’s predictions. You’ve got the people that you know. We’ve got LiDAR and GPR showing all these cavities. There’s something down there, definitely.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: And they’re going to tell about it.

AJ GENTILE: This year. If it changes everything.

A New Era: Energy, Disclosure, and the Exposure of Darkness

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah. So I think that’ll be part of this new knowledge that’s going to happen, going to rewrite the old way. There’s a new way, a new knowledge. I think you’re going to see fusion energy, helium-3, all of that. Imagine a world tomorrow where Elon doesn’t need rockets anymore.

AJ GENTILE: But there are going to be forces that are going to fight that every step of the way.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: They still are.

AJ GENTILE: And they still are.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: They just killed the fusion expert at MIT. They just killed it. And they’re planning to roll fusion out. You know what that means? About 80% of everything you buy is energy costs. That’s right — energy.

AJ GENTILE: So what happens if energy’s free?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Then we become very wealthy, everything gets very cheap, and living becomes a lot different.

AJ GENTILE: And that power structure kind of goes away.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Well, that’s part of the new knowledge. The lady said she was going to wake the people up and reveal and expose the darkness. And look at all of what’s being exposed right now all around the world — things that people are horrified to see. Dark politics, child trafficking. Whoever thought that going into 2025 we’d be seeing people being trafficked, and the US appears to be the biggest trafficker.

AJ GENTILE: It seems so. I think everybody can sense that something’s happening, and can sense that there’s an ongoing war between good and evil.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah, I think the good is going to prevail and all the evil is going to be exposed. That’s my prediction. That’s going to happen. I don’t think we’re going down the road of Armageddon. I think we’re going up to a new time of happiness — after all these dark individuals are exposed, kicking and screaming as this all unfolds.

AJ GENTILE: I’m going to choose to believe you, Chris. Thank you so much for coming today.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Thank you. The name of your book is UFO of God.

AJ GENTILE: UFO of God. And I would say it’s an excellent book. Even if you’re not into UFOs or religion, it’s a fantastic story. It’s a great book.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Thank you for that. It’s on Amazon and most other outlets. I self-published it. But the crazy thing is that it’s been in the top three to five in its categories for three years now.

Closing Thoughts and Farewell

AJ GENTILE: Well, let’s get it up to number one. And when’s your next book coming out?

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Hopefully by summertime.

AJ GENTILE: Now for fans of The Why Files, you know the saying is there’s always a book. Something to keep in mind, folks, is that Chris didn’t monetize his story for 15 years.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: 15 years, right. So I never wrote about it until 2022. This started in 2007. And all the research I’ve done — I have spent more time out filming the sky than any three people you can come up with. Nobody has probably spent the amount of time I have out observing the sky, and I’ve done it all on my own dime. And I get people saying, “Oh, you got the horrible camera, you should do this, you should do that.” Why don’t you go out and do the filming?

AJ GENTILE: Well, let’s support his work. Gang, grab that book, and I’ll keep everybody posted with what he’s doing and how we can support his work. It’s very important. I do believe we’re in a battle with darkness, and his message is valuable and important. It’s a weapon for good, and we all need to wield it.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: I appreciate that, AJ. And if things go right in the next 30 or 45 days, we’re going to step it up and start an expedition out your way, and hope to have you and Gino come along with us at times. If you want to, we’ll be a part of it. We’re going to film this every night and get more serious about it.

AJ GENTILE: We’ll be a part of it.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Yeah.

AJ GENTILE: All right, Chris, thanks again.

CHRIS BLEDSOE: Thank you, and God bless.

AJ’s Final Takeaway

AJ GENTILE: So we just spent three hours with Chris Bledsoe, and I need to sit with this a minute.

Here’s what we know. The January 8, 2007 incident at Cape Fear River is documented. Chris, his 17-year-old son, and three adult coworkers were all present, and all of them reported what they saw. MUFON investigated, though Chris says the investigation became a hit job — and that’s probably true.

What’s harder to dismiss is who came next. Harold Povenmire, a NASA engineer who worked on Project Apollo and spent 59 years at the agency, investigated Chris for over a decade and couldn’t debunk him. Povenmire died in 2019 still believing. Jim Semivan, a 25-year veteran of the CIA’s Clandestine Service, wrote the foreword to Chris’s book. Dr. Hal Puthoff from SRI — the man who ran the CIA’s remote viewing program — has also studied the case. These aren’t fringe characters. These are real people.

As for the big claims, Chris says his Crohn’s disease was cured after the encounter, and that he has documentation from UNC Chapel Hill showing no markers remain. I couldn’t find independent medical verification of that. It’s his word and his records.

But here’s where it gets interesting. Chris claims orbs interact with nuclear sites. Well, that’s actually documented elsewhere. There’s the 1967 Malmstrom Air Force Base incident, where Captain Robert Salas reported a glowing red object hovering over the facility right before 10 Minuteman nuclear missiles went offline. That’s been testified under oath before Congress. UFO activity around nuclear facilities isn’t fringe conspiracy — it’s in Pentagon records.

Now here’s what I’m still chewing on. The Lady — this feminine being of light that appears to Chris on Easter — that he connects to Hathor, to Fatima, to divine feminine traditions across cultures. And the 2026 prophecy: when the star Regulus aligns in the gaze of the Sphinx, a new knowledge will come into the world.

The astronomy nerds have run the numbers and nobody agrees on the exact date. Some say Easter, some say August, but it’s probably going to be October 7th. Chris says he’s been saying this since 2012, long before anyone was calculating alignments.

So my take is this: Chris Bledsoe is either sitting on experiences that bridge the gap between UFOs, spirituality, and human consciousness in ways we don’t have language for yet — or he’s the most convincing experiencer in modern history, with an unusual talent for attracting high-level interest.

What I can’t explain away is the caliber of people who investigated him and walked away believers. NASA engineers, CIA officers, Pentagon officials. Something about this case keeps pulling serious people in, and that’s what keeps me thinking about it.

Chris’s book is UFO of God, available on Amazon. He self-published it and has been in the top five in its category for three years. If you want to go deeper on his story, that’s where to start.

Until next time — be safe, be kind, and know that you are appreciated.

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