Tucker Carlson Show: w/ Eva Vlaardingerbroek (Transcript)

You know, they’re not asking their passports, let alone whether they’re asking if they’re conducive to the public good. I mean, that is an incredibly dystopian thing to read.

Since when is being conducive to the public good a requirement to enter a country? And also, who decides that? And why do I have no right to appeal? You know, those are serious things in countries that claim to uphold the rule of law, that claim to be democracies.

And I guess we already knew that those were, let’s say, illusions in our countries at this point. But to have it happen to you in such a personal manner, I now realize that I cannot go and visit many of my friends. I can’t go to the next rally which is planned for maybe I cannot set foot in a country that I otherwise love. You know, I don’t love the establishment, but I love the people, and I would have loved to go there again.

TUCKER CARLSON: And of course, the UK arrests far more people every year for criticizing the British government than Putin has arrested for criticizing him or the Saudis have arrested for criticizing MBS. I mean, it’s not just repressive, it’s far more repressive than countries we are told are authoritarian or totalitarian. I mean, it’s worse.

The European Union’s Totalitarian Turn

EVA VLAARDINGERBROEK: Absolutely. I totally agree. And the same thing is happening on the continent, in Europe, by the way. I mean, good that you bring up Russia, because, I don’t know, I think not many people are aware of this, but something incredible happened here just a month ago where the European Union put out sanctions like restrictive measures and placed them on European citizens who they claim, and I quote, “were distributing or manipulating false information.”

So they were saying that these citizens were destabilizing Ukraine on behalf of the Russian government. That’s at least their claim by manipulating information in the European Union. But as far as I know, Ukraine is not a member of the European Union, so why would they feel the need to protect the stability of that nation?

And second of all, those people just received, again, just like me, they just received that decision by the European Union. And what happened to them is far worse than what happened to me because they froze their assets and they said, you are not allowed to travel. And this was a decision made by the European Council. No due process, no court order, no fair trial, nothing.

So the European Union is doing that to its own citizens under the pretext of, you know, sanctioning Russia. But these are individuals, these are people whose lives have been destroyed and it’s not getting any media attention whatsoever. But this happened just a month ago.

So, you know, there is clearly an increasing totalitarian wind blowing through this continent. And, well, apart from this travel ban, I’ve also personally fallen victim to it. Just last year receiving a notification from Apple saying that my phone is under mercenary spyware attack.

So, you know, you see, there is a trend here, like we have governments, we don’t know exactly which one, or the EU freezing assets of citizens looking at me and you probably, as we speak through this phone, right now, again, that is not what is supposed to happen in democratic societies, especially not when those people doing it are the ones who constantly trumpet that. So it’s pretty bad over here. I’m really actually very concerned as to where this is heading.

AI, Surveillance, and the Open Air Prison

TUCKER CARLSON: Well, I mean, that’s kind of the question. Where is this going? And we’re in the very infancy of AI supercomputing. The ability of governments to actually control their populations at the level of the individual in a way that no government has ever been capable of doing.

And so if you marry bad intent to increase capacity for repression, you could wind up with an open air prison camp the size of a continent very quickly.

EVA VLAARDINGERBROEK: Yeah, well, that is exactly what is happening now to just a few individuals. But we don’t know how fast this will happen to the entire continent. Maybe you guys have heard of the chat control proposal, right, that the EU wanted to enforce, which got shut down, but now they’re trying it through another backdoor again.

They want to basically be able to read all of our messages under the guise of preventing, you know, child pornography, et cetera, from being spread. So they want to use—Yeah, I mean, it’s funny.

TUCKER CARLSON: They’re really worried about—Epstein’s friends are really worried about child pornography.

EVA VLAARDINGERBROEK: Right, right. So, but AI is going to be used to do that. They are going to be scanning our messages to see if any of that material is being spread, or at least that’s what they say. But it means that these unelected bureaucrats are reading all of your messages, essentially have access to all of your messages.

And I don’t know when people are going to wake up to all of these pretexts that are always being given. Just like Keir Starmer last week said that he wanted to ban X because of women’s safety concerns because Koch was making those bikini edits. Yeah, women’s safety. But I mean, do we have to talk to the man about the Rotherham rapes and stuff? You know, like it’s honestly, it’s laughable, but it has real life consequences for real life people.

And I think what you said about Europe turning into an open air prison is just right. That’s exactly what is happening. But how do you escape that? That’s the question that we all have. How do you unelect people that you’ve never elected in the first place? How do you get your rights back when it’s just presented to you that someone has taken them away from you and they’ve granted themselves? Because that is exactly what happens here. And people feel defenseless in the face of it.

What You’re Not Allowed to Say in Europe

TUCKER CARLSON: So what are the rules for speech in Europe? If we could get specific about this, because I think it helps to understand why it’s happening, who’s doing it, if we understand what you’re not allowed to say. So what are you not allowed to say in Europe right now?

EVA VLAARDINGERBROEK: Well, essentially you are not allowed really to criticize the establishment. You are not, especially not allowed to talk about the replacement migration going on in Europe. Say, look, we are soon white people, the native people of Europe are soon becoming a minority in their own homelands. Which is factually true. Like before the end of this century. That’s the case in most European countries, even before the end of the first half of the century. Actually.

If you say that they’re going to slap you with a hate speech crime. They’re going to say that that is hateful language, inflicting racial hatred, et cetera. So that seems to be the common denominator, especially talking about immigration and the effects of that linking it to crime, which is obvious. You know, you only need your two eyes to know that that is the case. That’s something that really seems to bother them.

TUCKER CARLSON: So who is them? I mean, so clearly there is a very well organized, very well funded effort to eliminate the white population of Europe. I mean, because it is being eliminated to notice it. You’ll be punished by police and courts you pay for if you notice what’s happening to your ancestors’ homeland. So that’s all just true?

EVA VLAARDINGERBROEK: That’s right.

TUCKER CARLSON: Like who is pushing this?

The Question Behind the Agenda

EVA VLAARDINGERBROEK: It’s the question of all questions, right. But it seems that all of these leaders that we have, be it Keir Starmer, be it Ursula von der Leyen, be it Merz in Germany, be it Macron, they all follow the same playbook. They all say the same things, literally post the same things in their communications to the outside world.

They might focus on slightly different subjects here and there, but the agenda is the same everywhere. And it’s the erosion essentially of our borders, of our nation states, of our heritage. I don’t have to tell you or your audience that. We all know it.

The question is, who’s behind it? Honestly, I don’t know. I can’t answer that question. But what I can tell you is that the people who are rolling out these agendas are doing it out in the open in front of our faces and they keep getting re-elected.

So I have made it my mission at least to talk about those people and target them specifically because they are the ones that are in front of us rolling this out over and over and over again. But it’s very difficult to say.

TUCKER CARLSON: So I don’t know that much about Merz. I don’t know Macron. His reputation is smart, clever and cunning, skilled politically. But I know a fair amount about Keir Starmer. And you will never convince me at gunpoint even that Keir Starmer is making independent decisions about the future of Britain.

Just you can’t convince me that. He’s not adequate as a leader of a nation. He just doesn’t have the basic qualities. He is taking orders. That could not be clearer. And I think it’s clear to the British population. But you don’t know who’s giving those orders?

EVA VLAARDINGERBROEK: No, I mean, I don’t know who’s giving those orders. I think if we would know, it would be easier to stop this from happening, right. But that is, I think part of the agenda is that we don’t exactly quite know who’s behind this.

Of course we’re fighting a very opaque democratic system. Also in Europe, there are in the European Union like tons of high government officials whom we don’t even know by name yet have billions and billions of euros at their disposal to roll out an agenda that goes against our interests, that literally wants to replace us, is crumbling our economy, and is essentially just destroying this continent.

So, I mean, I’ve heard people say before that this is all part of generation warfare, that it’s part of the game, that you don’t know exactly who your enemy is. And I think they want to keep it that way. But once again, you know, it doesn’t stop us from saying these people that we do see on television every day are bad, they’re evil.

TUCKER CARLSON: Yes, that’s correct.

EVA VLAARDINGERBROEK: And we need them out of office because that gives people at least, you know, some sort of action that they can take, even though already that is difficult. And that’s something that I hate to say, but in Europe, the majority still of your average Dutchman, your average Frenchman, is not even aware of that. So we have a lot of work to do in that respect.

The Coordinated Effort

TUCKER CARLSON: I think you make a really wise point. It doesn’t matter whether they’re the prison guard or the warden, they’re still participating in an indefensible system, hurting and killing people, and that’s evil. So, like, I guess that’s all we really need to know.

But it is frustrating when you see a coordinated effort like the one underway to eliminate white people. It’s the biggest thing that’s happened in our lifetime.

EVA VLAARDINGERBROEK: And especially if you can’t speak about it. Yeah, it’s the biggest thing that’s happened in our lifetime, and especially if you can’t speak about it without running the risk of being thrown in jail. Might I add that to what I just told you?

Let’s say, in addition to the answers that I’m giving you here, is that we in Europe run the risk of being thrown in jail when we talk about this too liberally. I want the American audience to understand that there are certain things that we really cannot say.

So, you know, that is very different. There is no First Amendment here, and we definitely do not have a Second Amendment to support it. So that makes our situation, you know, considerably different, especially for political commentators, journalists.

TUCKER CARLSON: Yes.

EVA VLAARDINGERBROEK: It is really more challenging, let’s say, especially when you have a family that you want to protect as well.

Digital Currencies and Control

TUCKER CARLSON: It seems to me the final piece of the control grid would be digital currencies, because at that point, of course, they can starve you to death if you get out of line. How long before that arrives?

EVA VLAARDINGERBROEK: Not long. The European Union is working on their digital euro, has been for a while, and I think they’re planning to roll it out this year, actually, or maybe beginning of 2027. So once that hits, same story.

Of course, they say that it’s all voluntary, that you don’t have to use it, but it’s just a matter of time till they do. You know, we see through the stories, but yes, that is of course going to be the final instrument that they can use to control the entire population.

But as I said, they’re already freezing the bank accounts of people who they deem to be benefiting Russia, right, with giving their opinion. Journalists who are writing about their opinions concerning the conflict. They don’t necessarily need CBDCs to do incredibly unlawful things and say that they do it in order to protect stability and democracy.

TUCKER CARLSON: For years you’ve been told this is not happening and you’re a bigot for thinking it is. But it is happening. Mass migration is reshaping the west completely. It’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s a fact. Different people live here now. You’re not a racist for noticing that. You’re just using your senses.

Again, it’s not a theory. It’s the biggest fact of this or any generation in a thousand years. The replacement is real. European governments aren’t just tolerating mass migration, they’re encouraging it. They’re funding it. They hate their populations and they want new populations.

We’ve got a new documentary on this called “Replacing: Following the World’s Deadliest Migration Route.” Our filmmakers follow what nobody wants you to see. They spoke directly with migrants, locals, officials who admit what the public is never told. It’s not ideological, it’s reality. This is happening. It’s destroying the west and our cameras caught it. “Replacing Europe.” That’s the doc only on TCN.

Now you live there, so you have a better sense than I do. But how far from some kind of revolution would you say European populations are? Are people getting, do they understand what’s happening? Do they care? Is there any meaningful pushback on a mass scale?

The Situation in Germany and Beyond

EVA VLAARDINGERBROEK: You know, I think we need to have all eyes on Germany. I think what is going to happen there with the elections, whether AfD is going to end up becoming the biggest party, that is going to make a huge difference in terms of our future.

When we’re talking revolution or uproar, you know, I can’t even really talk about revolution because before I know it, you would have a police officer standing in front of your door saying that you are inciting that. So, you know, I’m not, for the record.

I really don’t know whether that is, whether we’re there yet. I think that that is part of the problem is that there are still large, large parts of the population in Europe that is just not aware, especially if they’re not on X, if they’re not following alternative media.

I don’t mean to say that Fox News is a very truth telling right wing news channel, but we don’t even have anything like that, not even close to that. In let’s say the Netherlands, where I’m from, the mainstream media is just left wing. So if that is what you’re consuming all day, every day, you don’t see a problem in this.

You don’t see that people are being thrown in jail in the UK for expressing their opinions. Those types of news stories just don’t reach a large part of the population. So I don’t know if we’re close to that yet.

I do think that there is a big sentiment that is growing that this cannot go on the way that it has, that the European Union especially has taken too much power, has granted itself too much power. And I do feel that there are going to be cracks, let’s say in that foundation in the next couple of years.

But who knows, Tucker? I don’t know if it’s going to be fast enough. You know, like when we’re looking at our demographic change, at a certain point when you become totally outnumbered, you become minorities. I don’t want to say it’s over because it’s never over, but it’s going to be very difficult for us to reverse that.

TUCKER CARLSON: Yeah, I believe that. Keep in mind though that the UK left Europe, voted to leave the European Union 10 years ago in 2016, Brexit. And it’s more repressive than it’s ever been and it does seem more in line with, more in coordination with the EU than it was 10 years ago.

So you sort of wonder like maybe there are deeper forces at work here than just the horrible anti-human bureaucracy in Brussels.

EVA VLAARDINGERBROEK: Yeah, exactly. I think that that is a really good argument to say that there is a more sinister global agenda going on here. Same thing in my country back in the Netherlands. We keep on electing people that, you know, destroy our country. And I really don’t know who votes for them.

I honestly wonder, you know, when you talk to people on the streets, they’re not saying that they want those things, they’re not saying that they want replacement migration, they’re not saying that they want a digital euro. Nobody’s saying those things yet. They’re constantly being pushed down our throats, all of those agenda points.

So yeah, I agree with you, it’s too much in sync everywhere to not see that pattern.

The Absence of Spiritual Renewal

TUCKER CARLSON: Of course. And do you, in the United States, you’re seeing everywhere signs of spiritual renewal, Christian religious revival. Are you sensing that in Europe since you live there?

EVA VLAARDINGERBROEK: Not nearly as much as I would like to, no. Europe is a highly, highly secularized continent, especially northwestern Europe. Also for context, it was like when I started doing commentary for a more American audience, you know, I noticed and involved myself more in American politics.

I really noticed how often people talk about their faith in God, how often he is mentioned and how often they speak about Jesus also in political discourse. Now you can have your opinions about that, whether it’s always genuine or not. But he’s mentioned.

Here, if you do that in Europe, you get ridiculed. You get ridiculed, people will look at you funny. You know, I grew up in a country where if you said you were a Christian, people would immediately say, “How is that possible that you have a university education? Like, that’s so stupid. Like, how do you, how come that you believe in a fairy tale?” That is like the status quo in my country.

And I think that that also explains why we’ve gone down the deep end as far as we have. Because people, people don’t recognize even, you know, they don’t recognize the idea or the concept of good and evil. So if you don’t see that, if you don’t believe that God exists, if you don’t believe that good exists, then you don’t believe that evil exists.

And so you will just always write it off as incompetence at best. Or you’ll say, “No, that’s just a different viewpoint,” or “Everything is relative.” And that’s exactly what has gotten us, well, what has gotten us where we are today.

TUCKER CARLSON: Yeah. I was about to ask, how’s that worked out for the Netherlands? Pretty well. Pretty great. Mocking God. Good long term strategy.

EVA VLAARDINGERBROEK: Exactly. I mean, the country is on a great path, isn’t it? Indeed. Really, really bad long term strategy, but also really, really bad short term strategy because people are, people aren’t happy, you know, young people aren’t fulfilled. They don’t know what to do with their lives. They lack purpose, they lack meaning.

Of course. Of course you do. So it’s both bad in the long run and in the short run. But it’s very much the case. I mean, I converted to Catholicism a couple of years ago personally in the UK, by the way, where I now can’t go. Yeah, great.

But only 2.7%, for example, of the Dutch population is a practicing Catholic. And in the Netherlands, it’s half.

TUCKER CARLSON: Half.

EVA VLAARDINGERBROEK: You have like 50% in name at least is Protestant, 50% is Catholic, and only 2.7% is practicing. That tells you the situation of my homeland.

TUCKER CARLSON: So my last question is about you. You live in Europe. You have a family in Europe. You are European. Can you stay? Do you plan to stay?

EVA VLAARDINGERBROEK: I have to say, this is my home. You know, I’m Dutch. I’m married to an Italian. Our young boy, he’s 13 months old now. He’s both. Obviously, this is my home.

Unless, you know, I don’t want to spend my days in a prison cell because I will be good to no one. And I’m genuinely fearful that that is where we are heading, that that’s what they will do to people like me who voice the things that I think.

But as long as I have, I will do everything in my power to avoid that from happening, because I really do still have hope. I really do think that we should all have hope, even though it looks bleak for us, because if you lose the hope, there’s no point in fighting.

And that’s the last thing that I want, because I think it’s the first thing that our establishment wants is for people here to become demoralized. To say things like, “Oh, it’s just over for Europe. There’s no future for us. If you’re white, you should just go.”

It’s like, no, these are the lands of our ancestors, and they should be the lands also of our children. That is, you know, that’s worth fighting for, I would say.

TUCKER CARLSON: Eva Vlaardingerbroek, thank you and Godspeed.

EVA VLAARDINGERBROEK: Thank you, Tucker.

TUCKER CARLSON: Thank you.

EVA VLAARDINGERBROEK: Thank you.

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