Read the full transcript of Love Island star Kenzie Annis’ interview on Call Her Daddy Podcast, July 15, 2026.
Editor’s Note: In this candid episode of Call Her Daddy, host Alex Cooper sits down with Kenzie for a full “tell-all” interview following her whirlwind experience on Love Island. The pair dives deep into the reality of the villa, addressing the controversial love triangles, the internet’s reaction to her dating style, and her budding relationship with fellow Islander Dylan. Kenzie offers her unfiltered perspective on the intense social dynamics of the show and reflects on how she navigated the challenges of being under constant public scrutiny.
INTRODUCTION
ALEX COOPER: Kenzie, welcome to Call Her Daddy.
KENZIE ANNIS: Thank you, Alex.
ALEX COOPER: I am so excited to meet you. You literally look like you just came from Fiji. You’re in your little booty shorts, you’re in your little tank. You’re tan. How are you feeling?
KENZIE ANNIS: I feel amazing. It feels surreal. I’m definitely fangirling over you so hard right now. I listen to your podcast all the f*ing time. You were the first podcast I started listening to. You are the reason I know how to suck dick, no joke, no joke. And I get compliments all the time, and it’s because of you. It’s literally because of you. I just listened to everything you said, and I’m like, “Okay, I’m putting this to work.”
ALEX COOPER: I’m actually dying because Kenzie walks in here and she’s like, “Oh my God, wait, you’re pregnant?” I didn’t find that out till I just left the villa. I’m like, yes, babe, from the gluck luck to pregnancy, we’ve got range.
KENZIE ANNIS: I know, shit has changed.
ALEX COOPER: I know. Thank you for saying that. I’m obviously a huge fan of yours. Watching you this season has been such an experience.
KENZIE ANNIS: Thank you.
ALEX COOPER: I was thinking about it. Obviously you just graduated nursing school and then you literally are on the biggest television show essentially in the world.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: How do you feel about all the attention?
KENZIE ANNIS: It’s definitely wild. I was not expecting any of this. I just feel like I’m a normal girl from Kennesaw, Georgia. I drive like a 2013 Lexus. I call her “Beat Up Betsy.” I lock the front doors myself. I can’t even listen to music in there. I listen on my phone. My radio don’t work. I’m just this nursing and nannying girl, you know? It’s just surreal, and I never expected to be here. I just manifested all of it. Even right when I got off, I was like, “Call Her Daddy, please.”
ALEX COOPER: Oh my God, please. That’s kind of crazy. I didn’t know that you were a fan.
KENZIE ANNIS: Oh, I’ve always been a fan.
ALEX COOPER: Queen. Okay, we’ve got to get you a new car. What kind of car do you want?
KENZIE ANNIS: I want a baby blue car. I used to drive a baby blue convertible, but I wrecked it really bad.
ALEX COOPER: Okay, wrecked it. All right, well, we’ll try to get you a new car. So, Bronco, baby blue Bronco, surfboard at the top, please.
KENZIE ANNIS: Dylan’s taking me for surf lessons.
A Very Eventful Summer
ALEX COOPER: Kenzie, okay, okay, okay. I’m thinking about it also. There’s a lot we have to discuss today because you had a very eventful summer. Obviously.
KENZIE ANNIS: Very.
ALEX COOPER: You won a karaoke challenge. You found yourself in multiple love triangles. You redefined what a handshake means. You did more splits than I think anyone has ever done on this earth, and you became truly one of the most debated islanders of this season.
KENZIE ANNIS: That’s wild.
ALEX COOPER: When you got your phone back, what conversation surprised you the most?
KENZIE ANNIS: Probably just kind of being exactly sincere and stuff — that kind of threw me for a loop. And then also just the hate comments on Dylan. I was not expecting that because he’s been nothing but amazing, and my jaw was on the floor for him. It hurt my heart so bad to see him upset.
ALEX COOPER: Well, I want to get into all of that because I feel like a lot of people either were like you were so messy, or they thought you were misunderstood, or they were like, this is the only person that’s actually doing the experience completely right.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah.
Applying for Love Island
ALEX COOPER: I want to go back a little bit though, before we get into the details of Love Island. How did you even end up on this show? What made you want to apply?
KENZIE ANNIS: So I actually had never watched the show. I’ve watched UK Love Island like once — love them, huge fan. But my best friend in nursing school, Hannah, told me, “Hey, you should apply for Love Island.” And I was like, “Uh, okay.” And I’d been studying all day, and I did a ninety-questionnaire — I was eating dinosaur nuggets in my coffee. It was like 4 PM right after my hot girl walk.
And then after that, I failed nursing — failed my last test in nursing school. You have to get a 75 and above. I got a 74.96, so it was 0.04 off, and it was the 2030 thing. Yeah, it was 100% the 2030 thing. That’s what f*ed me over, bro.
ALEX COOPER: Like, ah, what the f*?
KENZIE ANNIS: But I ended up having a break. I got my hair done and all different, and I took a breath for myself. And then got back in the game and finished — when did I graduate? It was like literally right before, March 12th. And then I was sent on the 13th, like the day after.
ALEX COOPER: So your friend was the one that was like, maybe you should do this?
KENZIE ANNIS: Yes.
ALEX COOPER: And is this like typical Kenzie fashion?
KENZIE ANNIS: No, it’s actually crazy because my dance friend, right before I went on — she’s on the Hawks dance team — she messaged me and was like, “I think you would be amazing on Love Island.” And I’m literally about to go on. I’m like, “Haha, you’ll see me on your TV soon, babe.” I’m like, “Okay girl, I love you.”
ALEX COOPER: Wow. And did you get the bangs for Love Island, or you just got it because you were changing up your look?
KENZIE ANNIS: I just got it because I was changing up my look. And when you’re in clinicals, you have to have your hair all the way pulled back, so I was never allowed to have hairpieces. So I did that. And then I was like, “What else am I going to do with the break?” And I’m like, “I’ve always wanted tits. So I’m going to buy boobs.” And that’s what I did with my time off. So when I came back to nursing school, they were like, “Who is this?”
ALEX COOPER: Oh my God, you got tits in between nursing school?
KENZIE ANNIS: And it was not for the show or anything. It was just because, you know, growing up, you’re like, what do you want? You want boobs as a woman. I wanted to feel like a woman. I got like 400cc.
ALEX COOPER: Oh, you showed up and you said, “Give me tits.”
KENZIE ANNIS: I’m showing up, showing out. Give me those babies.
ALEX COOPER: So when you get to Love Island, you’re like, “Give me the bikini, I deserve to show this off.”
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, and the dresses. I’m like, give me any cutout shit, give it to me.
ALEX COOPER: Kenzie, did you pay for them or did your dad?
KENZIE ANNIS: I paid for them. Yeah, my nanny money. Shout out to my nanny mama, f*ing love her.
ALEX COOPER: Queen.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah.
Type, Dating History, and Being Celibate
ALEX COOPER: Okay, a lot of debate online and we’re going to settle it here, right here, right now. What was your type before you went on this show?
KENZIE ANNIS: I like dark hair normally. I like dark eyes, taller than me, a sporty guy. I like a country man, I do. But the conversation has got to be there and all that.
ALEX COOPER: And were you a relationship girl before Love Island?
KENZIE ANNIS: I was, but I got my heart broken — one big time. And then for two years I was single, and I did not talk or text anyone, like no one.
ALEX COOPER: Okay, wait, yeah, I remember you were like, “I haven’t had sex in a year and a half” before you entered the villa. Was this by choice? How did you feel about being celibate?
KENZIE ANNIS: It was definitely by choice, because for a while it was only my boyfriends — the guys that I had very seriously talked to. And then for a year, it was three more guys. And it made me just feel like I needed that connection. I need that connection with someone.
ALEX COOPER: And were you saying you had slept with only four men in your life?
KENZIE ANNIS: Yes. And then in a year I slept with three.
ALEX COOPER: Okay.
KENZIE ANNIS: It just made me feel kind of icky. I like to be a relationship girl. So I stopped. And because I wasn’t talking to anyone, I wasn’t going to do it. And then I’m like, “Well, I’m going on Love Island, I’ll just hopefully find my man there.”
ALEX COOPER: I feel like so many women are going to be watching this, like, actually, I f* with you because you’re just so honest. Most people — I think most women are scared to even be like, “What’s your body count? How many people have you slept with?” Because there’s so many weird negative connotations. And you’re like, “Oh, so four, then three.”
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: Oh, I love that.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah.
Managing the Roster
ALEX COOPER: Let’s first start with the roster thing. You came in, you said, “I’m not a roster girl. I can only talk to one guy.” Then you end up being one of the only people that had a roster, obviously. Now, in hindsight, what are some things that you wish that you had known about managing a roster, Kenzie?
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, I have no idea how to manage a roster at all. I think it’s pretty obvious and clear, but everyone’s surprised that I’ve never had a roster. It’s just like, I was going on the show to find my best connection, and that’s what I was there for.
ALEX COOPER: But do you think now that you have a better idea of how to manage a roster, you’re like, “I’m never doing that again”?
KENZIE ANNIS: I don’t think I ever want to do that again. But it was fun, it was like the best experience ever. But yeah, like on Snapchat — I’ve never done that. I never could text or talk to any more than one guy, and I never understood how other people could do that, because it’s a full-time job. It is definitely a full-time job. And how much is a girl allowed to talk about with another guy? I’m like, can I not talk about my family?
ALEX COOPER: I know we’re going to get into that because it was interesting seeing how you got backlash for certain things, and that’s what I was wondering — what was your understanding of Love Island etiquette when you first got in there, of how you’re allowed to move with multiple connections?
KENZIE ANNIS: Honestly, I didn’t know any Love Island etiquette. I’m just more like, “I’m just going to be me, have a connection, see if we connect really good.” I did want to be upfront, honest every single time, and I tried. The only thing I didn’t say was that one kiss with Corbin. And I do regret that because I feel like that really led
Kenzie Reflects on the First Coupling
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, I moved a lot different than them. But also I feel like the people that came in, they were able to connect with them immediately. It just so happened to be that my person came in later and at Casa. I don’t fault them for it. If you like someone, you like someone. You want to stay, you want to stay with them. I just— my person just didn’t come in until later.
ALEX COOPER: Okay, let’s get into it. Yeah, we’re going to go through the whole season.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: Episode 1, you chose Zach’s door. You guys end up coupling up, and almost immediately into coupling up, he lets you know that he has literally never been with a blonde before. He goes with people with darker features. You’re kind of not his type.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: And we saw you obviously get in your head about this. Like, how did that comment so early on affect your confidence?
KENZIE ANNIS: I don’t know if it affected my confidence, but I would say it hurt because I was like, “damn, Charlie’s into blondes. The f*?” Like, I thought Zach would too, but I guess that’s just not how it goes.
ALEX COOPER: I’m not okay.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, I was just telling myself, “you know, I love who I am. I’m in love with myself, and whatever guy is here, he’s going to love that too.” But it just wasn’t going to be him, and that’s okay.
ALEX COOPER: And prior to the villa, just in normal life, how would you describe your confidence and your self-esteem?
KENZIE ANNIS: I do EFT tapping. Like, I’m always like, “I’m a goddess, I love myself.” I pray and pray that God gives me all that love and support. And that’s how I feel about myself now. And it hasn’t always been like that. I went through really hard times when I was broken up with, and I was so down on myself. But you can pick yourself back up with all the positive energy. It’s all you.
Comparing Herself to the Other Women
ALEX COOPER: And I think we saw that truly. Your confidence—as much as you kept getting kind of like, “oh, this isn’t working, or this isn’t working”—you kept it moving in a way that was really refreshing to see, that you didn’t get too down on yourself. One of the main things the internet grabbed onto in the first episode was how shocked you were that you were not anyone’s type at first.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: Did this have you immediately comparing yourself to the other women that you were in the villa with?
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, I feel like naturally it does make you compare yourself. It made me feel like not as beautiful, you know, to a point. It did suck because I was thinking that I was going to have an Aaron and Kaylor situation where I just met my person. And seeing that happen right in front of me, and then Zach bringing Kaylor back right away, and then they’re in the bed next to me and they’re making out and stuff, and then I only just laid on his shoulder. He didn’t even want to cuddle or anything. I’m like— yeah, it definitely made me feel a certain type of way.
Corbin Enters the Villa
ALEX COOPER: Eventually though, you had a slow start, but eventually someone came in who caught your eye. During the office challenge, a new bombshell, Corbin, entered the villa. What was your first impression of Corbin?
KENZIE ANNIS: I was like, he’s not 100% my type, but he’s hot.
ALEX COOPER: Okay.
KENZIE ANNIS: We just ended up having a great conversation. Like, I was like, “Wow, we had a really good conversation.” The chemistry was there. And I’m like, okay, if he chose me—and he did—we pursued each other after that.
ALEX COOPER: Early on, I remember you told Anaya you were worried Corbin had f*boy behavior. But it was like a gut thing.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: What do you think you were picking up on?
KENZIE ANNIS: Probably his swag, kind of, and his nonchalantness. And then I heard about the kisses and I was like— I should have taken it more with a grain of salt than I did, but I’m like, “hey, wait, this is Love Island.” Like, s*, a kiss is like a handshake for me. So it’s like, this is Love Island, babe. And you just got here, so I’m not going to fault you for that.
ALEX COOPER: That’s fair. Do you think you were shocked by how many people were in shock when you said that you thought a kiss was like—
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, like, okay, clearly I’m not going to do that outside of here. It’s not like that, but when I’m on a fing dating show, we kiss in challenges. What’s the fing difference? Like, come on now.
ALEX COOPER: That’s fair. I mean, I think that’s fair.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: Outside of the villa, would you say though that you’re someone who has a good read on guys?
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, I feel like I definitely have a good read. Women’s intuition, gut feelings—you got to stick to that. If you feel that way, you feel that way for a reason.
ALEX COOPER: Oh, without a doubt. You have a feeling and you don’t know why, but it always usually comes back around to prove you right.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, it does.
A New Connection with Corbin
ALEX COOPER: When it came to the next recoupling, Corbin chose you.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: How did it feel to finally get into bed with someone that you actually were excited about?
KENZIE ANNIS: I was really excited to get into bed that night. Of course I find him very attractive. We had great conversations, but I did miss being with him, being in a connection with him. Yeah, it felt amazing. I felt like a squirrel climbing a tree, you know? He’s the tallest, and he’s got a lot of muscle. He’s great.
ALEX COOPER: I wrote down the next morning you said, quote, “he turns me on and no guys have really done that. I kind of feel like a new woman this morning.” Kenzie, what are some immediate turn-ons and turn-offs for you?
KENZIE ANNIS: He’s just sexy. And also the way he talks, his deep voice. I also like just how he would make me breakfast, and it would be like heart-shaped pancakes. I just remember missing those a lot.
ALEX COOPER: Obviously you can’t have someone make you those. I mean, they can make you those in real life, but in real life, is a turn-on a deep voice? You didn’t think it was ChatGPT vibes?
KENZIE ANNIS: It gave a little ChatGPT, low-key AI.
ALEX COOPER: Give me the impression of how he says Kenzie.
KENZIE ANNIS: “Kenzie.” Like, it’s so deep.
ALEX COOPER: It’s—
KENZIE ANNIS: And he’s cool. He’s a great person.
Sexual Chemistry and Roleplay
ALEX COOPER: Pretty quickly on, obviously you guys had immediate sexual chemistry. You were talking about role-playing, blindfolding, and handcuffing each other. Do you typically feel comfortable sexually right off the bat with people?
KENZIE ANNIS: No. The connection that we had—he even said it too—our chemistry was crazy. But there was definitely sexual chemistry. We had never done any of that. I mean, I don’t think he had ever done it. So that’s why we were talking about that. We’re like, “well, we could do that.” And then the bed scene happened where we were both blindfolded, and it was hot.
ALEX COOPER: Have you done all those things? No? Okay, hold on. So what would your ideal roleplay situation be?
KENZIE ANNIS: Probably being handcuffed and then blindfolded, and then like that paint.
ALEX COOPER: Oh s*, that turns you on? Any slime?
KENZIE ANNIS: I understand why they do it now.
ALEX COOPER: I understand.
KENZIE ANNIS: I’m like, okay, you’re actually getting—
ALEX COOPER: You’re getting turned on in challenges?
KENZIE ANNIS: Yes.
ALEX COOPER: Oh, that’s so interesting.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, and you’re so sober, it’s crazy, but it’s so fun. I’m like, okay, I’m going to be crazy, turned on as f*.
ALEX COOPER: Wait, and you want to be handcuffed, or would you ever handcuff the guy?
KENZIE ANNIS: Uh, both, but I would love to be handcuffed. I like to be put in my place.
ALEX COOPER: Okay, these are good things to know, Kenzie. I had a feeling, but I’m just checking it out.
Enter the Cowboy
ALEX COOPER: Okay, then comes the bed paint challenge like you’re talking about, and in walks a cowboy. And the whole villa quite literally erupted. It was insane. Every single girl was like, “this is Kenzie’s type to a T.” How did you feel about all the girls’ reaction?
KENZIE ANNIS: I mean, I loved it. They’re girls, they’re supporting me, and they always support me. I love them so much for doing that. They knew I was kind of talking about a cowboy, wanting a cowboy to come in, but also that was right before I had a connection with Corbin. I’m like, “can you please bring in a guy for me?” And then I’m like, “oh, I’m kind of settled down now.” But also seeing Caleb, I was like, “I mean, he’s fine. He’s fine.” And then the first thing he did was he came up and when he kissed me, he’s like, “hey Kenzie.” And I was like, stop. I’m dead.
ALEX COOPER: Okay, wait, have you dated a cowboy before?
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, kind of. If you guys ever heard about Georgia Southern, that was the guy that I was really in love with, and he was kind of like a cowboy. He had boots and stuff like that.
ALEX COOPER: He had boots?
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: Did he wear a hat?
KENZIE ANNIS: Sometimes, yeah.
ALEX COOPER: Okay, so has this fantasy been like a while for you?
KENZIE ANNIS: Yes.
ALEX COOPER: Okay.
KENZIE ANNIS: I fing love cowboys. Like, cowboy movie f. That makes me wet. That’s serious.
ALEX COOPER: So we were really excited when Caleb came in, but again, you were a little torn because you’re like, “but I do have something now with Corbin.”
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah.
Melanie’s Reaction to Caleb
ALEX COOPER: Something I want your take on that the internet really caught on to was Melanie was screaming the absolute loudest when Caleb came in, and she later told Sincere it was because she was excited for you. But then she was also the first person to pull Caleb for a chat.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: What do you think was going
Melanie’s Conversations About Corbin
KENZIE ANNIS: So, when we had that kissing challenge, when she went back and forth to both of them, I had a conversation. I was like, “So did you know that you were kissing him?” And she said she had no idea she was kissing Corbin or Sincere or who was who. And to me, I told her that was really hard for me to believe because you’ve been kissing Sincere for how long? And Corbin’s a lot bigger, you know?
But we talked about that, and then she told me that she was not into Corbin, that Corbin was her type to a T, but she’s very much into Sincere. She said, “You have nothing to worry about, not pursuing him. I’m not going to talk to him. We’re good.”
So then the next day we’re pooling and beaching, whatever. And then she pulls Corbin for a chat to talk to him. And then I didn’t get to talk to her until later that night, and I pulled her for a chat and I was like, “Hey, I’m just confused because not even 24 hours ago, like last night, you told me that you weren’t going to talk to him, that you weren’t pursuing him. So I’m confused. There’s a disconnect there.”
And she said, “Yeah, well, that was yesterday. Me and Sincere are not good anymore, so I am going to pursue Corbin.”
And so that’s why I was so upset, because I just felt blindsided. And I felt like if she was interested, just say, “I am interested in Sincere, but also I do still want to kind of chat with Corbin.” And I would have been cool with that. It would have been different.
ALEX COOPER: I don’t think we saw that initial conversation between you and Melanie.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: Being like, “I’m not interested in Corbin, me and Sincere are good.”
KENZIE ANNIS: So all we saw was me getting upset, you getting upset, which makes total sense. I understand why everyone’s going crazy because it is like a double standard kind of thing. But I wouldn’t have been upset if she wasn’t my best friend in there.
ALEX COOPER: Yes. So she had approached you saying, “I’m not going to go for that.”
KENZIE ANNIS: Yes.
ALEX COOPER: And then her and Sincere get in a fight and then she’s going for Corbin. And I’m sure to you it kind of felt like, wait, hold on, is this just to make Sincere jealous or whatever? Because I actually feel like I have a real connection with this person.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah. And I’m getting finger blasted right before that. So it’s like I was kind of liking him to a point.
ALEX COOPER: And is finger blasted the same as french fries?
KENZIE ANNIS: Yes, I was having fun. It’s french fries.
ALEX COOPER: I felt like you were having fun every single night, Kenzie.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, I mean, I’m at Love Island for the summer. What are we doing? What’s going on?
Kenzie and Melanie’s Friendship
ALEX COOPER: Holy shit. It did seem like you and Melanie had a few ups and downs this past season. What were some other moments when you look back that kind of tested your friendship?
KENZIE ANNIS: It was definitely that, and then right after that, Sol came in and Sincere, they had a thing going. And Sol was very much like, she just felt isolated in there. I don’t want to speak for her, but she was having a hard time. She was crying a lot, and I just wanted to be there for her. So I started pulling her for chats, and I just said, “Hey, I want to let you know you have a friend in here, and I’m here for you,” and I think she’s beautiful and an amazing person.
But also at the same time, there’s only so many hours in a day. You can only have so many chats with so many people. And Melanie was pulling Trinity and Anaya more often, so I could only talk to so many people as well as Melanie. So it just so happened we didn’t have as much time together, but of course I wanted to be there for her as a friend. That’s why I was so emotional later when we had that conversation.
ALEX COOPER: Did you feel like there was an unsaid dynamic in the villa that if you were friends with Sol, you were kind of also then going against Melanie to some degree?
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah. I don’t agree with that. I was just trying to be there for someone who needed someone. And I think Sol’s an amazing person. I think Melanie’s an amazing person. But Melanie had a ton of support already in the villa, whereas I just saw Sol and I just wanted to comfort her and be there for her.
ALEX COOPER: Did it feel like Sol was being treated fairly in the villa?
KENZIE ANNIS: I think that it was really hard for her to come in when she did. She’s a bombshell — she really bombed. I don’t know. I did feel for her on a couple of days, but I think she ended up getting along with people after that. But it just — I felt for her.
ALEX COOPER: Where do you and Melanie stand now?
KENZIE ANNIS: Well, right before I left — I don’t know if they showed this because I haven’t seen it — but she pulled me for a chat and we talked. We’re really great friends. I love her since the day before I walked out. I remember holding her hand right before the door opened, and she’s like, “Don’t worry, they’re just as nervous as you.” She was my comfort, and she had been that comfort.
I know we went through our ups and downs, but I love her, and I’ll always support her. She is the best. She’s an amazing person. She deserves nothing but love. And that’s all I have for her.
ALEX COOPER: I love her.
Caleb and Corbin: The Love Triangle
ALEX COOPER: Yeah, back to Caleb. It seemed like obviously he thought you were his type. He quickly pulled you for a chat. Now we got to go through this Caleb-Corbin dynamic because babe, it was a lot. It was a lot. And this was, I think, what you were getting the most heat for, so I want to get into it.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: What was your first impression of Caleb when you guys — I know you physically connected that first night. I think you had a kiss. Was the physical attraction there once you had a kiss?
KENZIE ANNIS: The physical attraction was definitely there after we had a kiss. I was very much into him.
ALEX COOPER: And once you guys had that first kiss, were you still more into Corbin or Caleb?
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, so after that first kiss, I still had more of a connection with Corbin on different levels other than just attraction. I fall in love by someone speaking to me, like in my ears. I have to have time with you.
So on that initial chat with Caleb, he was like, “Who do you like more, me or Corbin?” And I was just like, “Oh my God.” I have a really great connection with Corbin. And I told him I still wanted to pursue that with him and that I was very unsure, but I really did like Corbin. And I said, “I’m very interested in also getting to know you.”
ALEX COOPER: So this was essentially the first love triangle you experienced, not only in the villa but in your life. You said, “I’m a one-person kind of girl. I’m confused as f*right now.” What do you think was the most difficult part of managing these two connections at once?
KENZIE ANNIS: Probably just stepping on other people’s toes in the villa. There’s other girls there that also want to explore them as well, not knowing what I can and can’t say to either of them. It’s kind of weird.
I grew up watching The Bachelor. Like, he says “I love you” to how many, three girls, and I can’t talk about my family? It’s kind of wild. I’m on a Love Island dating show — am I supposed to be having conversations with other guys? I don’t know. It’s confusing, and it’s so hard because I’ll be kissing Caleb, and yeah, it’s a great kiss, but I have a great connection with this other guy. And that’s why it was so hard for me. My mind can’t compute. I’m like, well, it is.
ALEX COOPER: So I agree with you, Kenzie, because what’s so weird is I’m also watching the UK version right now, and everyone’s talking about being at home. Everyone’s like, “This is what it would be, and this is my mom,” and they’re saying that to most of their connections. So I also feel like a lot of it is dependent on the cast per season — it kind of shapes the etiquette around what’s appropriate.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, because the season right before that was nothing like this season.
ALEX COOPER: Nothing. Nothing. So it is interesting that you were kind of moving with what you thought was right, and then people would be like, “What do you mean you talked about your family?”
KENZIE ANNIS: And you’re like, “Oh yeah, everyone was actually like, maybe just don’t do that.” And I was like, “Oh, okay.” But I was just trying to talk about things outside of here, to see if it would work outside of here, because it was real for me. And that’s why I was trying to see if our lives would work outside of here.
ALEX COOPER: I think that makes so much sense, especially hearing it even more from you now, because you’re like, if we’re going to actually work, we need to somewhat talk about our circumstances outside of here. We’re not going to be in this villa forever.
KENZIE ANNIS: Why are we chatting about everyone else’s couple in here? How is that going to bring me any closer to you? It’s not.
America’s Reaction to the Caleb-Corbin Situation
ALEX COOPER: Okay, the internet then was like, “You know what, as America, we’re deciding to break Corbin and Kenzie up and we’re going to put her in a couple with Caleb.” And I think America, at first, by the time the voting was happening, really thought she should try with Caleb.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: And then I think they were like, “F our life. Wait, it feels like she actually really likes Corbin. We just did her dirty.” And I remember seeing everyone online being like, “Wait, did we just fully f Kenzie over by voting her into a different couple?” In hindsight, do you think that f*ed up your experience a little bit, because it really put pressure on you to give Caleb an even bigger shot than maybe you were going to intend to?
The Dock, Corbin, and Confusion
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, I don’t think it f*ed me over in a way because I was also interested in Caleb, and I like that we got that chance to be together and talk and see how it would go. But I was still feeling Corbin a lot, and I missed being in a connection with him. And I wasn’t understanding why Corbin—like, we were very kissy and touchy at the pool and all of this, and then right when he was coupled up with Melanie, he’s like, “let’s not do any of that.” And so I was very much confused. And then like the night on the dock, I was like, “I want to kiss you.” And so it felt so weird. And then Caleb was also like watching me out on the dock, which I was like, that was a lot. And we didn’t even kiss, and then the whole house blew up.
ALEX COOPER: No, no, we know you didn’t kiss. Yeah, but the looking from the kitchen—we’re getting there. Wait, and to clarify, would you have chosen to stay in a couple with Corbin had it been your choice for the recoupling?
KENZIE ANNIS: I probably would have stayed with Corbin. Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: Okay, let’s talk about the dock moment, because you’re on the dock and you tell Corbin, “I want to kiss you,” and he’s like, “oh, I don’t know if we should be doing that right now because we’re both a new couple.”
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, he said he wanted to stay true to Melanie, which is—which is nice. And she’s my friend, so I understand. But at the same time, how are you supposed to go from kissing, making out, doing things in bed, to all of a sudden nothing?
ALEX COOPER: That’s what I think was confusing about this year, because it was, “So are you closed off, or now you’re just in it?” Because again, I’m watching UK, just comparing it, and it’s like the minute that they flip couples, then they’re still making out with the other person they’re talking to. It’s just having some respect and over-communicating.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, and just communicating with them.
ALEX COOPER: Because you guys didn’t kiss, and you’re saying obviously there was this moment where you’re like, “what are we doing?” Do you think at all that the separation and the forbiddenness in a way made you even more pulled toward him?
KENZIE ANNIS: I mean, that is 100% probably true. You always want what you can’t have, kind of thing.
The Kissing Accusation
ALEX COOPER: Caleb was convinced you guys kissed, and he started telling everyone that you guys had kissed. And you went and reassured him that literally never happened. You did seem really frustrated and even upset when this accusation kind of started, and you said, “it’s hard because I feel like I’m supposed to be exploring both connections when I am feeling like I kind of can’t.” Did you feel in any way like this was hindering your experience, and you almost didn’t want to be honest in a way?
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, it did make me be like, “can I even be honest with him?” Because I felt like he would probably take some steps back. And all of our conversations right before the one that they showed on movie night, that was our best conversation, and that was the deepest we had gotten. And I wish it was like that the whole time, because when he got back from Casa, he even told me—we were playing volleyball together and he’s like, “all the guys are saying I really changed and came out of my shell.” And I’m like, I wish it was like that the whole time because it just, it wasn’t, you know.
ALEX COOPER: Shortly after this, you end up kissing Corbin and you did feel like you needed to keep a secret. What was your main reasoning behind that?
KENZIE ANNIS: I didn’t want the whole house to blow up, and neither did he. Melanie was sleeping in Soul Ties, and I think that it was because she would hear that we kissed and it made her feel weird, so she would sleep in Soul Ties. She also missed Sincere. And then Caleb—it was like, you know, he was watching me already at the dock. He didn’t want us to kiss, and I was telling him the whole time that I still wanted to pursue Corbin, so I was communicating with him. So I just didn’t understand—but I didn’t want him to take steps back because I just wanted to move forward. If we kept talking about that, it would just be going in circles, just talking about me and Corbin with him all the time.
ALEX COOPER: Why do you think Caleb was not exploring any other connections when you were so clear that you wanted to explore multiple?
KENZIE ANNIS: I don’t know why he didn’t explore other connections because I was telling him, “I’m exploring, please explore.” I just think that he was coming in for me, and that’s awesome. I did say I want a guy that’s all about me, so maybe he just thought that it would have worked.
Movie Night Revisited
ALEX COOPER: Okay, let’s clarify that movie night moment you just mentioned. Movie night, we as viewers saw more context that we didn’t originally see. The next morning after your secret kiss with Corbin, you had a chat with Caleb where you told him, “I just want to be more focused on you and growing our connection and getting deeper because that’s the only way we’re going to get closer. I think that outside of this, our lives would collide very easily.” And then you and Caleb kissed. Talk to me more about the intentions of that conversation, especially after what we saw—that it came right after you kissed Corbin and kept that a secret the night before.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah. I had no idea there would be a recoupling that night, and I did still very much want to pursue Caleb. And after we had that conversation—that was at the ending of it—I’m like, “wow, I’m actually getting this energy from him that I had not gotten.” So I was like, I’m feeling him a lot more than I had been for the past couple days. And then right after that chat, it was literally like recoupling. And then it was me taking a couple of minutes being like, “who do I like more?” And my heart was still with Corbin. It’s just I wasn’t able to tell him that. And even after, I talked to him after the recoupling and I was like, “I want you to know none of that was fake. It was all genuine. I do still have feelings for you.” And he just said, “well, that doesn’t matter.”
ALEX COOPER: I guess, like, what mistakes do you think you made within that dynamic?
KENZIE ANNIS: I think I told him that I did just want to pursue him and talk to him, which I definitely shouldn’t have said. That’s not fair to him at all. And it made him think that I was going to pick him that night, which I feel awful for because he wrote the sweetest letter to me. And it broke my heart to be standing there in front of the mailboxes and see how it went down and just, like, everything.
ALEX COOPER: Well, now he’s in Vegas, DJing, hanging with Tara Yami. He’s fine. He’s fine.
KENZIE ANNIS: He’s amazing.
Elimination and the “Lustful” Comparison
ALEX COOPER: In that next elimination round where you and Corbin did recouple with the mailbox challenge, Sol and Gabe went home. But Corbin let you know that your name had been considered for elimination. And when you confronted the boys, Casey told you that the reason you were considered is because of you kind of giving similar reasons to Gabe. You seemed upset by that comparison. You said, “I haven’t been as lustful, like Gabe has been moving.” How do you think you and Gabe moved differently in the villa?
KENZIE ANNIS: I think Gabe’s an awesome person, but he likes to kiss more and, you know, get into it faster. And I do tend to move a little bit slower than him. And I don’t feel like any of my connections were lustful. It was based on actual communication and talking. Like me and Corbin, I wasn’t fully into him until after having a conversation with him. Me and Caleb, it took a minute for me to be like, “oh, I actually kind of like him, he’s cool.”
ALEX COOPER: So yeah, that was such a big conversation in the villa this year—lustfulness. What is the definition of lustful in the villa?
KENZIE ANNIS: I feel like lustful is just like you’re only attracted to them because of their looks. And you look amazing, you’re hot, everyone’s hot. Like, say something about my intelligence, say something about my hobbies, say something about me and who I am, my family. Yeah.
Casa Amor
ALEX COOPER: Okay, let’s go to Casa Amor.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yay!
ALEX COOPER: This was so big this season. Honestly, every producer—we were like, “you need a raise.” They did their big one. You guys thought that you were getting ready for the heart rate challenge. You come down, and I actually think it was the worst gift in Love Island history—you guys get a video of the men in Casa Amor having the heart rate challenge with the Casa Amor girls, and you’re like, “yeah, f* my life.”
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, no, literally us just going like—our jaws dropped.
ALEX COOPER: What did you expect to be Corbin’s experience when you realized he had left before you saw the livestream?
KENZIE ANNIS: I thought he definitely wouldn’t hold back. I didn’t think he would—I think he would have explored, but I thought our connection was really good, so I was feeling good about our connection in a way. Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: Yeah, we loved the livestream as viewers. We were like, “oh, hold these men accountable,” because we had had so many moments as viewers being like, none of these women know what these men are actually saying behind closed doors. Yeah, put them on blast, please. Understandably, you were so angry watching Corbin and Casey basically joke together about him immediately leaving you before he even had a conversation with these women. He saw them and was like, “yeah, I’m out. I’m completely going back to someone different.” Had you ever been publicly disrespected like this?
KENZIE ANNIS: No, I’ve never been publicly disrespected like that. It wasn’t just the “out of the window” thing because apparently he didn’t say that, it was Casey. But yeah, I just don’t take disrespect like that. Also, my family seeing that—I know what my dad would say. He’d be like, “f* him.” My husband would never say that.
The Clam Slam Heard Around the World
ALEX COOPER: “So I’m not going to waste another minute”—you kind of didn’t waste another minute though, because I was going to say you really handled it with grace, babe. We watched you just basically drop down into the split. It was Kenzie. It was the clam slam that was heard all the way at Casa Amor, heard around the world. It was like everyone’s making their grilled cheese and you’re like, “bam bam bam bam bam.”
KENZIE ANNIS: I was like, “well, I guess we’ll eat because there’s no men coming in.”
ALEX COOPER: I’m like, “f* y’all.”
KENZIE ANNIS: Literally, f* you guys.
ALEX COOPER: Is that typically how you let out your anger?
KENZIE ANNIS: I mean, it did help. It definitely helped. I loved it. I should—like, shit.
ALEX COOPER: But I was so pissed.
KENZIE ANNIS: Like, what else am I going to do? I had been—I had all day shaking my ass upstairs in our room. My arms were sore the past three days after that. I was ready to f*ing dance. I’d been ready to dance since before I came on the show. I was like, “heart rate challenge, heart rate challenge, put me on.” So I was pissed. And then thinking that there was still guys to come in and us to dance on, I was like, “okay, where are the men? Bring them in.” And then that didn’t happen.
ALEX COOPER: I’m like, “f*, Kenzie, what
Corbin’s Disrespect and Moving On
ALEX COOPER: Okay, every morning. Okay, after you get disrespected by Corbin, you—I think America was like, “we f*ing love this woman,” because you were like, “oh, I’m so done. I’m so done with that man. I don’t see anything more. I’m completely done.” You literally woke up the next morning, you said, “I’m going to wear black for his funeral today, I am never talking to him again.” Typically, is that how you respond in your life when a man disrespects you?
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, typically I do act like that. It’s from my parents and just my self-worth that I get from them, and I just—I don’t f with it. I don’t f with that energy. I’m not—I’m not going to shed a single tear, and I’m f*ing glad I never did over him.
ALEX COOPER: I feel like so many people caught on to that where they were like, it feels like Kenzie has such a good relationship with her parents that you could just feel your relationship even with your dad. It’s so precious. Can you talk a little bit more about what he’s instilled in you?
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, so him and my mom, they go on dates every single week. He pursues her all the time, and I know my man will do the same thing. And my man will never talk down on me or disrespect me in front of his friends. Doesn’t matter if he’s with his boys, that does not f*ing matter. And that pisses me off. Your man can’t say whatever he wants—that’s so disrespectful, and I’m just not going to take shit like that. No one deserves that. No woman deserves to be treated like that. No one.
ALEX COOPER: Are you someone—I know you didn’t have your phones in the villa, but would you hit him with the block? Would you ghost him? What’s your—
KENZIE ANNIS: Blocked. Blocked straight away.
ALEX COOPER: Blocked.
KENZIE ANNIS: I’m done.
ALEX COOPER: You’re just hitting them with the hard block.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, cold turkey. Bye.
Meeting Dylan
ALEX COOPER: Okay, we need to get to Dylan. Yes, Dylan. So while Corbin’s off in Casa more doing his thing, you turned your attention to the new boys and you meet Dylan. What was immediately attracting you to him?
KENZIE ANNIS: His looks. And then also, I mean, look at him, he’s fing hot as f. He is definitely my type. And then he was the first guy that came up to me and he was like, “hey, I’m Dylan, I want to talk to you, I can’t wait to chat.” And I’m like, okay, he’s been all about me since day one. And I even saw that he drew—when we got to draw the people, he drew me in a split. Like, he drew literally me, and everyone was just like, “you know, this is Love Island, you gotta go on.” And he’s like, “no, I like her. I’m going for her.” And he thought me and Corbin were in a great relationship, so he thought that it was because he hadn’t seen the live or anything like that.
ALEX COOPER: I see.
KENZIE ANNIS: And didn’t know how open I was to pursuing.
Exploring Gaul
ALEX COOPER: Okay, another boy that immediately caught your eye was Gaul.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yes.
ALEX COOPER: Yes. How did you feel about exploring him when you also knew Jen was also going to explore him?
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, so at first I wasn’t really interested in Gaul. The first thing he said to me, I—I definitely was attracted to him. I saw him and I was like, “hi, I’m 24, my name’s Kenzie.” And he was like, “oh.” I was like, “how old are you?” He’s like, “I’m 30.” But basically was saying like 24 was too young. And I’m like, “well, I’m one of the oldest in the villa, but okay, good luck, baby.” So I just turned, literally paid him no more attention the rest of the day. But of course I thought he was attractive. He would be my type as well. I think he’s fine. And he’s a nice guy. But after that, we would be in the kitchen and he was very much flirty and chatty with me, saying that he wanted to chat. And I was all for it. I was like, I didn’t know that there was anything between us, but after talking I was like, “I’m here on Love Island. I’m going to talk to men.”
ALEX COOPER: Dude, you got yourself in another pickle because basically you eventually had the opportunity to chat with Gaul. The vibe was there. You two kissed pretty soon after you told Dylan this and you admitted this to him. But I do think it’s important to clarify, you had told Dylan and basically every single person in the villa that you wanted to explore Gaul and see if anything was there. And there was no dishonesty this time. There was nothing of that sort. And then when you told him, Dylan started to cry. What was your reaction to him getting so upset even though you had been so honest?
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, I think that me and Dylan just had an amazing day that day and we got really deep in the conversation. So I don’t fault him for—his feelings were so valid. I was wanting to have that conversation with Gaul days before it happened. But we got so close, and seeing him emotional like that, I was like, “wow, this guy actually cares about me.” I was just in a relationship a week before with Corbin where he flipped on a dime, so I didn’t know if this was real for anyone else like it was for me. And then that helped me let down my guard with him because I was like, “damn, he cares about me.” Yeah, dude.
ALEX COOPER: How did you feel when you saw that all of America thought that he was giving fake tears?
KENZIE ANNIS: I know, that actually crushed my heart. It really, really did crush my heart because I don’t think anything about him is fake at all. And even since we got off, the first thing I said to him, I was like, “do you still like me?” And he’s like, “yeah, of course.” I was honestly scared. And then in our hotel room, we’ve basically been in the hideaway like every single day, and he is exactly the same as he is off camera. And even his friend Brandon said that, and that helped so much on family day when I was like, “oh my gosh, finally, this guy’s true. He’s real. He’s not doing it for the f*ing cameras.” And he’s not even—people were saying he’s an actor. He’s been in one music video? He didn’t even say a word. What are you talking about?
ALEX COOPER: He’s been in a music video.
KENZIE ANNIS: It’s like in a Camaro or some shit. And he’s like, they flip in the car and he’s making out with her.
ALEX COOPER: It’s so L.A. Yeah. Yeah.
KENZIE ANNIS: I was just like, oh my God.
Movie Night Fallout
ALEX COOPER: Okay, let’s go back to movie night quickly. When the video showed the clips between Caleb and Corbin where you basically told Corbin, “when I was kissing him, I was thinking of you,” and then we see you say to Caleb, “I feel like I have more in common with you than I do with Corbin.”
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: What was going through your head when you had to watch this in front of all of your peers?
KENZIE ANNIS: Oh my God, I was like, “f.” No, literally, I was like, “this is about to be so fed.” But honestly, seeing it, I was like, okay, that was shitty of me, and I shouldn’t have gone about it and said certain words that I did. And I could see more of why Caleb felt so led on, and it did make me feel awful. And I wanted to take that time, I was processing it, and I’m like, okay, I’m sorry. I didn’t want to hurt anyone.
ALEX COOPER: Well, I think it was refreshing because you took accountability right away, and we watched at movie night so many people be like, well, but when it came to their issues, you were immediately like, “yeah, I f*ed up, I was wrong.”
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: But I think something that rubbed people the wrong way was it felt like Dylan was kind of just adding on to the fire because he was like, “I just felt like I watched the entirety of last night on repeat.” What was confusing is from what we understood, the Casa boys saw a lot of this season prior to them coming in, so he was fully aware of how you had been moving in the dynamic with Caleb and Corbin. How did it feel to have your character be questioned by someone you were in a relationship with?
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, definitely. Yeah, it didn’t feel good. I had conversations with him and I was like, “that hurt that you did jump in on that.” But at the same time, that was just in front of my face, and I could see how I was doing that. It’s different, I feel like, when you’re just watching it. And also, I knew he was scared because he doesn’t want me to do that to him, and I probably would feel the same way if I was watching it on the other side.
ALEX COOPER: And he kept harping on it. But I do think now, again, I think we all as viewers have to recognize there’s such heightened emotions in this villa and there’s so much going into it that it’s like seeing it in 4K. It’s going to cause a lot of emotions.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah.
Comparisons to Sincere
ALEX COOPER: The girls in the villa really let you know they did not approve of how you were moving. Kaylor went as far to say it’s “giving Sincere.” What did it feel like to hear that?
KENZIE ANNIS: Definitely hurt, but I listened to them. I hear them out, and if that’s how everyone was seeing it, then I’m going to take it with a grain of salt. But yeah, it hurt. I was very emotional, crying in the shower a lot, just feeling hurt. Jaden was the only one that came up to me and was like, “I don’t think you did anything wrong, babe.” And I lost her later in the compatibility challenge, and that sucked. And then Jen, she tells me straight up how she feels, but she always supported me. And yeah, it was hard.
ALEX COOPER: Aside from the one secret kiss you had, you were so upfront with Caleb. Sincere was repeatedly lying to Melanie and essentially everyone in the villa and Casa Amor through his entire experience. What are some examples that you can give that highlight how different your situation was to Sincere’s?
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, I feel like he did lie a good bit to not only Melanie but some other girls and his guy friends, hence why Corbin picked him in the challenge too. I never called them any names, made fake promises. And I tried to be as open as possible to who I was talking to. And I know he said something about when he was in Casa, that it was a test for him a little bit, which I don’t ever feel like any of my connections were—me testing another connection with someone else. It was just me seeing if we could connect on that level. There was never any “who’s better” kind of thing.
ALEX COOPER: Quickly after movie night, we saw a lot of the women in the villa support Sincere, even being like, “I’m team Sincere,” fully supporting him even after watching him on 4K. Why do you think the girls were holding you to a different standard?
KENZIE ANNIS: I don’t know why the girls were holding me to a different standard than Sincere. Especially after getting out, it does feel like sexist almost, because I’m not a male and it’s like I can’t move like them, maybe. And I don’t know, it felt—it was hard. I didn’t feel that supported at that time except from Jaden.
ALEX COOPER: Did you feel like—because I can imagine, Kenzie, like you’re blindsided again, not only because they’re treating you that way, they’re supporting Sincere, who is doing ten times worse than you.
Rapid Fire and Reflections
KENZIE ANNIS: Um, probably just like my love triangles and just getting shit on and me feeling like I couldn’t talk. I wasn’t allowed to talk to two people at once. Talk— like, it just made no sense in my mind. I’m like, where are we right now? I’m, I’m very confused and feeling like I was just getting shit on over and over for exploring when no one was closed off. So it’s like, that’s—
ALEX COOPER: I think a lot of the viewers felt that way and they were frustrated in some capacity with the season. I think people loved when Sol was like, “This is Couples Island. You guys are not even two weeks in.” Yeah, let’s open it up a little bit. Yeah, so I could see where that would be frustrating.
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Rapid Fire Questions
ALEX COOPER: I want to do some rapid fire with you.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yes.
ALEX COOPER: Okay, who do you think was the strongest couple?
KENZIE ANNIS: Um, Kayda and Zach.
ALEX COOPER: Who do you think played it the most safe?
KENZIE ANNIS: Maybe like Melanie and Sincere.
ALEX COOPER: Okay. What’s your number one flirting tip?
KENZIE ANNIS: Um, winking, looking, doing the triangle. When you look at one eye, you look at the other eye, and you look at their lips.
ALEX COOPER: Oh my God, you just did it to me. I was like, where are we going? Oh, I like that. Yes. When you got your phone back, who was the most surprising person in your DMs?
KENZIE ANNIS: Shit, I haven’t even looked at my DMs.
ALEX COOPER: That so shows you have a man.
KENZIE ANNIS: Maybe like you.
ALEX COOPER: I’m dead. You’ve been so holed up with your man, you’re not even worried. Who do you wish you would have kissed and you didn’t?
KENZIE ANNIS: Um, I, I kissed everyone. Okay, I kissed everyone.
ALEX COOPER: Okay, have you seen that Corbin doubled down calling you sincere in his post-villa interview?
KENZIE ANNIS: Yes, I saw that.
ALEX COOPER: How do you feel about that?
KENZIE ANNIS: Um, no comment.
ALEX COOPER: Okay, no comment. F* that.
Zach and Kayda Friendship
KENZIE ANNIS: Okay, um, where do you and Zach stand today?
ALEX COOPER: Are you guys friends? People had like a misunderstanding about that.
KENZIE ANNIS: Me and Zach are besties. He’s funny as f and I love Kayda. I would always third wheel with them there. I don’t think that they showed that as much. But yes, after we had that little tiff, I didn’t talk to him for a week straight. And I wouldn’t let him look in my eyes. That is true. I was like, the only thing this man counted on me was my fing eyes. So you’re not going to be able to see it. Like, literally, I’m not looking at you. But after that, we did talk. I told him that, you know, I was sorry, but I’m not going to wait. I’m going to explore my options. Hence why I was talking to Sean more.
ALEX COOPER: Like, I’m obsessed with you walking around with your eyes closed.
KENZIE ANNIS: You’re like, don’t look at me. I know. He’s like, “Can I pull you for a chat?” I’m like, “Dude, no.”
Melanie and Sincere
ALEX COOPER: Um, I don’t know if you’ve obviously seen the internet, but there is a lot of conversation around Melanie and Sincere. Do you think Melanie should stay with Sincere?
KENZIE ANNIS: Um, I think Melanie deserves the world, uh, but I love Sincere. I do. He’s an amazing person, but I think Melanie deserves the world.
ALEX COOPER: Is he an amazing person?
KENZIE ANNIS: He’s a good— he’s a good person. I just don’t know if they’re great together.
ALEX COOPER: Okay. And maybe they played it a little safe.
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, because she was always just for him, kind of like she always just wanted him.
ALEX COOPER: But I don’t know if Sincere played it safe. He did not play it safe. Where were you when TT and Trinity were fighting at the fire pit?
KENZIE ANNIS: Uh, TT and Trinity?
ALEX COOPER: You and Melanie, it looked like— did you leave the fire pit? Are you allowed to say?
KENZIE ANNIS: Um, I’m not sure, honestly. I might have been taking a shit or something.
ALEX COOPER: There’s no way you left. They were mid-fight and it seemed like you weren’t at the fire pit. Were you at the fire pit?
KENZIE ANNIS: No, I was at the fire pit then. I was.
ALEX COOPER: Oh, you were? When TT entered and was like, “I’m TT,” you were there?
KENZIE ANNIS: I was at the fire pit. I was like this. I was like, holy crap. She was like, “Oh, you’re a little girl.”
ALEX COOPER: I was like, oh, f*. Okay, you were there? And you were there the whole time?
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: Okay, good to know. We needed to hear that. So you weren’t taking a shit.
KENZIE ANNIS: No.
Exclusivity and Situationships
ALEX COOPER: Um, how did you feel about Trinity calling Zach and Kayda’s exclusivity a situationship?
KENZIE ANNIS: Okay, um, I don’t agree with that. I really don’t. Um, exclusive— being exclusive, that’s what my parents said. I just see it as, my parents were dating for seven months. The first thing my dad said to my mom is, “Can we please be exclusive?” Because they were dating other people. And that’s a step in the right direction to me. And he, Zach, he just wants to ask her outside of here and have it just be them. And I think that’s like romantic as f. He wants to do something more romantic with her. So I don’t agree with that comment. Um, a situationship is when you’re like with a fing group of friends and you’re just f*ing. Like, and then it’s like, “Oh, you’re hot, you’re hot, I’m hot.”
Lingering Beef
ALEX COOPER: Yes. What is this lingering beef with Parmeeta?
KENZIE ANNIS: I don’t know. I don’t know. I feel like I’ve apologized a ton of times, so I don’t know what more I can do. And then when I said, like, “I love you” to her, it’s because she was leaving and I just wanted to give her compassion and love at that time. Um, and then using it against me, I don’t know. I don’t know. I was actually shocked at like After Sun.
ALEX COOPER: Well, your response was so f*ing perfect. Were you surprised when on After Sun TT said that she wouldn’t be friends with certain people after the villa?
KENZIE ANNIS: Uh, I was a little surprised, but I do get where she’s coming from because after we did the music or like the little karaoke, she, um, she felt like a lot of people were shocked by her being chosen, her and Casey, which I think we were just kind of more shocked that Kaita and Zach weren’t in the top four than that. But I think that her— of course her feelings are valid. There’s reasons she feels the way she feels.
The Hibachi Video
ALEX COOPER: So, um, okay, you guys, after post-villa, went to hibachi the other night and a video started circulating from Sol’s live stream. Someone’s talking about Melanie in the background. We hear something along the lines of, “It was always the Melanie show, anyone who was close to her got to stay.” Like, it sounded like light shit talking. There was speculation at first it was you, then there was speculation it was Jaden. Tell us what happened.
KENZIE ANNIS: Me and Jaden were definitely like talking about them, but not in an awful way. Like, I f*ing love Melanie and I’m going to stand by her. Um, she definitely— I feel like we were just saying she did get a lot more screen time than a lot of other people who were in couples that, like, wanted to talk, but it was never any shit talking about her. I would never talk shit about my girl, and Jaden likes her as well.
ALEX COOPER: So do you think that people are going to think that— that’s like, oh, you guys are jealous because she just got screen time?
KENZIE ANNIS: Um, I mean, they can think that, that’s fine, but that’s, that’s what we were like talking about.
ALEX COOPER: Yeah, so you were just talking about how she got more attention?
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, basically. Yeah.
Brand Deals and Growth
ALEX COOPER: Have you seen all of the brands being like, “We will literally give you a year’s supply of this,” or “we’ll give you a car, we’ll give you free whatever if you leave Sincere?”
KENZIE ANNIS: No.
ALEX COOPER: Oh my God, you need to open your phone. Um, oh my God, no, it’s a lot, Kenzie. It’s a lot.
KENZIE ANNIS: Insane.
ALEX COOPER: Um, okay, like, what is the biggest difference between day one Kenzie and Kenzie sitting here now?
KENZIE ANNIS: Uh, I’ve changed so much, it’s crazy. Um, I still feel like I’m the same exact person, but I’ve learned how to communicate better. I think going in I wasn’t able to do that as well, and getting everyone’s feedback— my girls, the guys— I feel like I’ve changed and I’ve grown. This experience, that like social experiment or whatever the f* you want to call it, has changed me. I’m just—
Dancing Dreams and Beach Confessions
KENZIE ANNIS: I love Dancing with the Stars. Ever since I was like two, my parents would watch me sit on the— my feet wouldn’t even reach the end of the couch, and I would just sit watching the whole thing for hours. I wouldn’t move. That’s what also got me into dancing later. I love to dance, loved watching them. Oh, I love them.
ALEX COOPER: So you would say that’s one of your top priorities if you could do something crazy outside of the villa? Yes, dancing with the stars.
KENZIE ANNIS: Top priority would be dancing with the stars, 100%.
ALEX COOPER: I really like that for you.
KENZIE ANNIS: Thank you.
ALEX COOPER: What do you hope— thinking about it, obviously, and you just got out of the villa— but where do you hope you are a year from now when the next season of Love Island starts?
KENZIE ANNIS: Man, I have no idea. Maybe I just want to be in Hawaii and have some smoothie acai bowl with Dylan, and then hopefully, you know, be boyfriend-girlfriend. I want to maybe one day have surf babies. I want to learn how to surf too. I told him— I was talking to him last night, I was like, “I want to have five.” He’s like, “Five?” I’m like, “Yes.” And then we’re going to adopt too.
ALEX COOPER: So wait, wait, we’re adopting?
KENZIE ANNIS: But not just yet, but like, I do.
ALEX COOPER: Okay, wait, and have you guys hooked up on the beach yet?
KENZIE ANNIS: That is coming soon, and I’ve been waiting to do that. We’re about to do that.
ALEX COOPER: Can you make sure you bring a blanket? Because as great as it sounds, Kenzie, the sand in the— no, I’m not trying to say that your whole fantasy isn’t going to be great. But just bring some situation so it’s not just sand in the vagina.
KENZIE ANNIS: I got you, I got you. Have you ever had sex in the sea?
ALEX COOPER: In the sea?
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah.
ALEX COOPER: No, no, I haven’t had sex in the sea. Is that something you’re now adding to the bucket list?
KENZIE ANNIS: I was also asking him, I’m like, “Should we do it there too?” But we’ll see.
ALEX COOPER: This man is like, “I love my life so f*ing much,” dude. I’m dying.
Reflecting on the Villa Persona
ALEX COOPER: Is there anything left that you feel like maybe was misinterpreted from your time in the villa? Just from little things that you’re seeing that you’re like, “Oh, I really want to clarify this because I don’t think it’s an indication of who I am.”
KENZIE ANNIS: Yeah, I think there’s only so much that they can show because there’s 24 hours in a day. You’re showing one hour of how many people it looks at the beginning. Like, I’m this blonde bimbo sex addict where I’m like, that’s not me. They didn’t get to see all of me. And I’m just hoping that people can see who I am now because I definitely do make jokes like that and it’s fun, and I’m witty and weird like that. I’ll say that. But that’s not all of me, right?
ALEX COOPER: It’s like, yeah, it’s a TV show. There’s so many different cast members, so you’re only going to get so much time to actually put together your personality. What did your dad and mom think about how you were portrayed?
KENZIE ANNIS: Great. My dad was like, “Damn, that’s not all of her at all.” They were thinking that they’re just not showing my whole me and who I am. And I think that’s what was amazing about Family Day, is that people could see where I came from and how much I love them.
Closing Words
ALEX COOPER: No, I’m so happy for you, Kenzie. I will just say, I hope the best for you. I think now, having met a lot of people, obviously when I interview them from Love Island, there’s so much attention that comes with all this, and I wish you the best in navigating it. I can imagine it’s so overwhelming going from a summer with no phone to now the world is watching you, and I am sending you all the good vibes. Truly, seriously, you deserve the best, and I’m so happy we got to meet.
KENZIE ANNIS: I’m so happy we got to meet. You have no f*ing idea. I’m still fangirling over here. I feel like I’m in a damn dream.
ALEX COOPER: Thank you. I’m like, let— pinch me!
KENZIE ANNIS: Alex Cooper’s talking to me and she’s it. Like, I’m in a dream, bro. Are you going to watch your dick sucking video right after this?
ALEX COOPER: Again, I’m not. I’m actually dying. Kenzie, thank you so much for coming on Call Her Daddy. You’re a queen.
KENZIE ANNIS: Thank you so much for having me. I love you.
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