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Prof. Jeffrey Sachs: Using the Economy as a Weapon (Transcript)

Editor’s Notes: In this January 2026 episode of Judging Freedom, Judge Andrew Napolitano and Professor Jeffrey Sachs examine the Trump administration’s aggressive use of “economic statecraft” as a weapon against nations like Iran and Venezuela. Professor Sachs deconstructs recent admissions by Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, arguing that the deliberate destabilization of foreign currencies constitutes an illegal form of warfare that bypasses Congressional authority. The conversation further explores domestic civil rights concerns and the global shift away from the U.S. dollar as nations seek to insulate themselves from American economic pressure. Additionally, Sachs discusses the implications of TikTok’s ownership change on free speech and the reporting of international conflicts. (Jan 27, 2026)

TRANSCRIPT:

“Undeclared wars are commonplace. Tragically, our government engages in preemptive war, otherwise known as aggression, with no complaints from the American people. Sadly, we have become accustomed to living with the illegitimate use of force by government. To develop a truly free society, the issue of initiating force must be understood. Reject it.”

“What if sometimes to love your country, you had to alter or abolish the government? What if Jefferson was right? What if that government is best which governs least? What if it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong? What if it is better to perish fighting for freedom than to live as a slave? What if freedom’s greatest hour of danger is now?”

Introduction: Economic Warfare and Domestic Militarization

JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: Hi, everyone. Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom. Today is Tuesday, January 27, 2026. Professor Jeff Sachs will be with us in just a moment on using the economy as a weapon. What is economic statecraft, and how can it be as perilous as warfare?

Professor Sachs, welcome here, my dear friend. Before we get to the U.S. Treasury working hand in glove with the CIA to destabilize society and even starve people in Iran, hasn’t the Trump administration descended into a form of nihilism in Minneapolis when it can defend shooting a young man in the back nine times because he had the temerity to photograph, to video ICE people as they were in the streets?

JEFFREY SACHS: Trump is at war with the world, including at war with American citizens, including militarizing American society in an absolutely shocking and brutal way. And what’s part of this is that the government, including, of course, the President personally, but the government lies at every single moment about everything.

There isn’t a truthful word about what’s happening internationally or what’s happening on our streets. We can watch directly the history of these killings in Minneapolis, or we can know, if we work hard at it, what’s really happening internationally. But the government itself simply lies, brazenly.

So a murder in cold blood in Minneapolis is portrayed as a response to a terrorist, a domestic terrorist. Nothing could be a greater lie and an insult to our intelligence because we can watch on our own. So this is war. It’s real war. Unfortunately, it’s also infowar, and it is, of course, chilling and depressing. But we have to carry on to speak absolutely clearly about what’s happening.

JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: Can you draw a line from the murders of people on speedboats and fishing boats in the Caribbean to the murders by federal agents in the streets of Minneapolis?

JEFFREY SACHS: Of course the White House is ordering murders. The White House is putting people in situations, innocent people, where they are killed, and then it describes them. If it’s fishermen in the waters of Venezuela, it calls them narcotics traffickers. Or if it’s an American citizen peacefully standing on the streets of Minneapolis, it calls him a terrorist.

So it’s a direct link. It is an approach that the Deputy Chief of Staff, Stephen Miller, has explained that there are no laws, there’s only power. We’ve been there before in world history. It is tragic and devastating to go that way, to believe that you are outside of any rules. No morality other than what is in your head, no commitment to the truth in any way.

It’s the opposite of everything we’re taught. And the reason we’re taught that morals matter is that to live lawlessly like this is to create a war of all against all in which innocents die in large numbers. That is what the Deputy Chief of Staff, Stephen Miller, of this president has explained to the American people, that the rest is just niceties.

Miller is an architect both of the international regime of war by the United States and of the domestic war by our federal government on American citizens right now.

The Failure of Constitutional Checks and Balances

JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: I hope that the other two branches will do something about this. The court should restrain it, or the Congress should defund it, or the Congress will be deemed complicit in this. It’s rather obvious what’s going on. The lying is shameless because the lying is defied by what we see with our eyes.

JEFFREY SACHS: Congress has just declared itself dead. During the past year, it has not exercised any single function that the Constitution gives it. It is Congress that has the power of tariffs. It is Congress that has the power to declare war. It is Congress that is supposed to determine the budget. These are all clearly spelled out in the Constitution. Congress has abandoned all of this.

Congress has abandoned its oversight responsibilities and its investigative responsibilities. It is something unimaginable that all Congress does is take party line votes. These people work for the President of the United States or for the Republican Party. They work for the American people. That’s true. Whoever they represent, whichever district, whichever state they represent, the Constitution of the United States.

As for the Constitution, the ultimate guarantor of that is supposed to be the U.S. Supreme Court. My classmate, John Roberts, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, holds the future of our republic in his hands right now. Is the Supreme Court just going to allow this complete lawlessness and extra-constitutionality and rule by executive decree, or is it going to say we have a Constitution and it is the job of the Supreme Court to enforce the Constitution by declaring what is the Constitution and what are the prerogatives and not prerogatives of the President of the United States?

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The President is dangerous and whimsical in how he behaves and deceitful and completely outside of constitutional rule, declaring emergency here and emergency there and tariff on this and threatening this on that and ordering murders of fishermen here and ordering ICE onto the streets of American cities, all without regard for the law.

Treasury Secretary Bessent’s Admission of Economic Warfare

JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: I want to switch gears to one of your other fields of expertise, which is economics.