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Transcript: Milo Yiannopoulos on Candace Owens Podcast (Ep 224)

In this episode of Candace (Ep 224) streamed live on Aug 6, 2025, Candace Owens sits down with Milo Yiannopoulos for what she calls a “MAGA funeral,” asking whether Donald Trump has finally betrayed his own movement over Israel, Jeffrey Epstein, and FEMA’s now-scrubbed attempt to tie disaster funds to state boycotts of Israeli companies. They walk through Trump’s recent dismissal of Epstein-focused supporters, Milo’s claim that “Epstein is the key that unlocks the architecture of our world,” and why both now see Trump’s response as calculated gaslighting rather than straight talk.

The conversation then widens to Netanyahu’s push to “occupy” Gaza and expand into the West Bank, the DHS website language that briefly conditioned FEMA aid on not boycotting Israel, and what they believe this reveals about Zionist influence over U.S. policy. Along the way, Candace and Milo debate whether Trump is “owned” by Israel, if MAGA can survive without him, and why they think left and right must unite against elite impunity on issues like child exploitation and endless foreign wars.​​

# MAGA at a Crossroads

CANDACE OWENS: All right, you guys, happy Tuesday. I am joined by Milo Yiannopoulos. Do you want to know why? Because it feels like a MAGA funeral. We are both wearing black.

A lot has happened in the last 24 hours, really, honestly, since Trump reassumed office, and it’s time to talk about it. And at the end, you do kind of want to go back to the beginning. Welcome back to Candace.

The Original MAGA Movement

CANDACE OWENS: So there’s a long backstory. We have so much we actually need to talk about, but I want to suspend that for a later episode because I actually contacted you weeks ago saying, Milo, I want to have you on. Wanted to go through the history.

But for my audience, my newer audience, and these are people that are on the left, and now I think we’re all kind of coming towards the middle and realizing that everything is corrupt and fake and gay. I wanted to let them know you’re actually kind of a piece of my backstory.

I didn’t know you, but when I was a liberal and on the left and found myself falling down the hole, meaning I realized, actually, I agree with conservatism, and I kind of like Donald Trump. And I was kind of scared to say that as a black person in America, I found your writing.

So you were at Breitbart, and your writing was excellent, and you were talking about the ills of modern feminism. You absolutely blew up. And I would say that you are original MAGA, meaning I think of you, I think of Steve Bannon. I think of all of these people when the whole world was like, Donald Trump will never become president of the United States.

MILO YIANNOPOULOS: We didn’t agree. And there were about seven of us when the rest of the country was afraid even to admit who they were voting for.

CANDACE OWENS: And who would you say were in that original MAGA group? I think of you and Steve Bannon.

MILO YIANNOPOULOS: Mike Cernovich would be an example.

CANDACE OWENS: Absolutely. Mike Cernovich.

MILO YIANNOPOULOS: I think that even Baked Alaska was there up with us, front row in some of the talks. My buddy, Pizza Party Ben, if people remember him from, if you were a little bit more online at that time. And, you know, really, it was a very small group.

I would say Stefan Molyneux, who’s just got back to Twitter, who’s sort of an online philosopher, I guess you would say. You know, really, it was a very small group. And I got a compliment from somebody high up in the campaign in 2016 that I think was excessive. I don’t think it’s fair.

But, you know, he said, oh, you’re one of those seven people who put him in office. I said, come on, grow up. But what I think he was getting at was that at a time when even Americans were afraid to admit who they were voting for, although they did in huge numbers, there were seven or eight or nine of us or whatever who were out there every day vocally supporting him, saying, it’s okay, even if you don’t admit it to your wife. Do it in the booth.

And fortunately, we did persuade them. And so, yeah, I mean, I was there when he came down the golden elevator, which other people kind of saw in retrospect. And I sort of, at that time, I was kind of, what is going on here? This is exciting. This is interesting. And then when he came out and said—

CANDACE OWENS: Why were you there? You were there when he came on the escalator. How did you get there?

The Golden Escalator Moment

MILO YIANNOPOULOS: I was invited by a friend who said, I think you’re going to want to come along to this. Somebody who works at a hedge fund. And at that time, he was sort of vaguely, somehow connected to the Trump Organization or maybe whatever. People kind of had an idea that Trump was going to do something, right, because he’d been trailing for many years, that he was going to run for president.

And people sort of, he’s going to make an announcement of some kind, either that he is or he isn’t. And so a friend of mine invited me and said, you probably want to be here for this. And it was the kind of person that only says it when they mean it.

So when he started to speak in that unfiltered, extraordinary way about immigration and in an announcement, when he right out of the gate said something along the lines, you know, they’re not sending their best, Mexicans are rapists. Oh, this is the guy that people have been waiting for that is going to speak like they do.

This is the guy that they’ve been waiting for that is going to speak directly, plainly, honestly, persuasively, and in that demotic mode, in the manner in which we speak to each other over the kitchen table about the things that are freaking them out, and nobody else is going to do it.