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Transcript: Who Is Nick Fuentes? – PBD Podcast (Ep. 654)

Read the full transcript of influencer Nick Fuentes’ interview on PBD Podcast with host Patrick Bet-David, September 23, 2025.

Introduction: Why Interview Nick Fuentes?

PATRICK BET-DAVID: So the obvious question is, why would you put Nick Fuentes on your podcast? Why would you do that? My lawyers, “don’t do it.” You know what’s a great thing? I don’t have sponsorship to lose. I don’t have to worry about an investor saying they’re not in. No. And me. For my entire career, I’ll talk to anybody.

And the reason why I wanted to speak to him is because this interview happened the day after me leaving Charlie Kirk’s memorial, which was the most magical revival I’ve been in my entire life. Charlie was 31. He’s in his mid to late 20s. And I feel what we need today more than anything else is to continue talking to each other. And if we don’t learn about each other, what are we going to do? Hate, misinformed, agitate, divide, continue to call each other out and create this temperature to go higher and higher and higher?

No. Guess what? You know what podcast I did with this guy? I don’t know if there’s a podcast that you’ll learn how he became, who he became. What caused him to go from being a pro Thomas Sowell guy from Prager U to a girl at Daily Wire who he was hanging out with. I think they even liked each other at one point that became a Jew, converted and then did certain things. And some retweets, some incidents with Ben that the temperature elevated one after another after.

And then in one video, while he’s at a university at this leadership institute where the camera is kind of angled and this girl records him saying something about blacks that goes viral, he gets blocked from all the conservative interviews. And at a young age, he goes from here to an entire whole different level.

And I asked him a couple questions. Who are you more concerned about, Jews in America or Muslims? His answer is very interesting. I asked him, who’s a bigger net positive, Jews or Muslims? You’re going to be surprised by the answer. It’s a technical answer, but we had a very good conversation in that exchange. And then a lot of the stuff of where he’s at right now.

Charlie Kirk. How did Charlie Kirk inspire you? What did he inspire you? And he reveals something I’ve not heard him talk about before. But all in all, I actually think, here’s what’s going to be interesting. I actually think his audience is going to like it. I think conservatives are going to like it because you’re finally getting to know who this guy is. I actually think it’s going to sound weird. I think Jews and Israel is going to like it. That’s kind of crazy. Yes, I actually believe that.

But having said that, I hope you enjoy getting to know this individual that is both loved by groypers and hated by many. And if you’re like me, you’re in the middle 20% that just doesn’t have a clue who the guy is. I hope you get to know him better by the time this interview, this podcast is done with Nick Fuentes.

The Interview Begins

PATRICK BET-DAVID: Okay, so we’re finally doing this.

NICK FUENTES: Yes, finally.

PATRICK BET-DAVID: A lot of people are like, “I don’t think he’s ever going to do it. Have him on. You shouldn’t have him on. Lawyers never have him on. This is not good. You’re going to be tied in a group. You’re in a good place.” So that makes me want to talk to the guy.

But let me tell you, yesterday, I’m at Charlie Cook’s memorial, obviously, the late, great Charlie Kirk. I’m there. A couple comes up to me, okay, I’m standing next to Adam, and Vinny’s there, and my two boys, Dylan and Tico are there. This couple comes. “Can I take a picture with you?” Yes, of course. We take a picture, and then the guy gets a little too close to me, a little bit uncomfortable, but he didn’t seem like a weird guy.

“Hey, I don’t know if you paid attention. He has stopped saying the N word. Please have him on.” I said, “who are you talking about?” He says, “Nick. Nick has stopped saying the N word.” I said, “no, you said it a lot a week ago.” So, “no, he slowed down. He actually reacted.” Said, “well, we’re going to have a conversation.” I said, “you’re probably the first to know that we’re having a conversation.” And then obviously you’re here. Appreciate you for coming out, making the time.

NICK FUENTES: Yeah, absolutely.

Recognizing Talent

PATRICK BET-DAVID: So, Nick, I don’t know much about you except for the clips I’ve seen. Respectfully, to me, the way I’ve made my money over the last, whatever, 25 years in insurance and finance was watching who has talent. And I would watch somebody, I would say, “this guy’s got what it takes,” right?

First time I had Charlie Kirk on at 23 years old, I said, “there’s something very special about this guy.” At 23, I came to my insurance company, I said, “this guy’s going to be the president one day. Watch this guy closely.” First time I watched Tucker, unbelievable talent. When you watch him, humor, sarcasm, intelligence, push him back, subtle. He’s making fun of you. You don’t know it. The audience knows it. He knows the art.

Candice talent. Dave Smith, talent. We used to have a comedian working here called Marcelo Hernandez, who is now on SNL. I don’t know if you know who he is or not. Incredible. He used to produce Adam’s show. And I said, “this guy’s going to do something special.” Now he’s on SNL. Vinnie talent.

I see you, the way you communicated.